5 Ridiculous Gun Myths Everyone Believes (Thanks to Movies)

[Supafly]

Nicce article on 'Cracked.Com' on 5 gun myths some took me by surprise

#5.
Silencers Turn Gunfire Into a Gentle Whisper

Where You've Seen It:

In The Line Of Fire, Die Hard 2, No Country For Old Men, Shooter, practically every James Bond movie.

The Myth:

Cautious spies and assassins know that if you're going to take out a bad guy in an office or a library, be sure to use a silencer. It turns the concussive "bang" into a neutered "ptew."

Itty-bitty handguns aren't the only things you can silence. Giant freaking shotguns can even be fitted with a special silencer that renders them inaudible in quiet suburban neighborhoods.

Also, while silencers look all slick and expensive and fancy, Hollywood says pretty much any long, hollow tube will do the job. Grab a two-liter, stuff it with socks or something, and you can be just as dangerous as Mark Wahlberg in Shooter.

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[Mr. Daystar]

Very good, very funny, and mostly true.

#1) Some suppressors do reduce the sound of a gun to the cycling of the action, and the brass bouncing off of the ground. It depends on the gun, and the round.

#2) The sound of a pump action shotgun, being "pumped", is in fact one of the most intimidating sounds ever. Any home invader, that does not turn and run from that sound, clearly is to stupid to know whats coming next, and should be removed from the gene pool.

Everything else is spot on

 

[LukeEl]

Is it true that if you shoot a man in a certain spot his head will blow up?

 

[Danglyparts]

#1. Bullets Explode Everything

bullets are always incendiary. everytime some one fires near a car, it explodes :tongue:

 

[bahodeme]

#2. Gratuitous Cocking
For some who own a pump or lever action firearm will load the magazine and leave the chamber empty along with using the safety. If this is done, you will have to chamber a round by using the pump or lever.

 

[Connor Macleod]

Is it true that if you shoot a man in a certain spot his head will blow up?

It depends on a couple of factors. Full-metal jacket vs. mushrooming would be the main factor along with calibre.

I'm a deer hunter and I've seen this. I made a head shot on a deer once, full metal jacket, and it went through-&-through, although the exit wound was bigger, and I made another head shot on a different deer with mushrooming and most of the skull was blown out on the exit.

 

[Rey C.]

Very cool thread. And a great list. The six-gun capable of shooting 16 times has bothered me since I was a kid watching Westerns. But the one that REALLY bothers me these days is #2: Gratuitous Cocking. As much as I enjoyed the TV show, Lost, whenever they'd have a good guy or bad guy constantly cocking a weapon (especially racking a shotgun) it made me . IMO, the worst (on Lost and other shows I've seen) is when you hear a cocking sound... on a gun that has NO EXPOSED HAMMER!!!

In one episode of Lost, they had Sayid carrying a Glock, and to make his point to some bad guy, he "cocked his Glock". I once knew a girl who could glock a cock, but I don't know anyone who can cock a Glock.

 

[mr. jizz]

I think one of the dumbest things movies have shown is that the sideways, or "gangsta" way to hold the gun actually works. That crap will make you inaccurate as fuck and I personally think that it looks stupid.

 

[Kingfisher]

Revolvers, when they swing out the cylinder and it makes the clicking sound when they spin it.

Or when they attach a silencer/suppressor to a revolver, when the majority of the sound escapes from the region of the forcing cone.

The infinite magazines, or the "automatic" weapons continue to click after the magazine is empty, like it's some kind of electronic cocking device.

It's so extremely sad when so called politicians (cough Diane Feinstein cough) get their information on guns from Hollywood sources. That dumb cow actually thinks a barrel shroud is something that goes against your shoulder. Sorry, off-topic. I just really don't like her stupid ugly ass.

 

[Rey C.]

It's so extremely sad when so called politicians (cough Diane Feinstein cough) get their information on guns from Hollywood sources. That dumb cow actually thinks a barrel shroud is something that goes against your shoulder. Sorry, off-topic. I just really don't like her stupid ugly ass.

Diane was key in helping work through the Assault Weapons Ban in the 90's. In an episode of 60 Minutes, she was trying to explain some of her rationale. During the interview with Leslie Stahl, they pulled out an SKS to discuss the hang-fire issue that some SKS's have (where they accidentally dump all the rounds in the clip or magazine with one pull of the trigger). Without going into a critique of the segment, I'll just say that the part where Diane pointed the gun at Leslie, and then at herself, sort of filled me with a glimmer of hope that there'd be a loud bang! and... well, I shouldn't think evil thoughts. But sometimes, the devil on my shoulder wins the day, ya know? :shy:

But it is rather sad when people, who know almost NOTHING about a topic, try to write legislation for a product or service. It doesn't matter if it's cars, guns or financial instruments. Would you want a medical dumbass like me to have a hand in writing legislation that had anything to do with medicine or medical devices? I hope not. Because, just like the AWB, that bill would have failure written all over it before it even went to the printers. So Diane's (and Chuck Schumer's) fascination with threaded barrels, barrel shrouds, bayonet lugs and the like, just demonstrates her ignorance about firearms and where the potential danger (truly) lies. A gun's appearance has absolutely nothing to do with how lethal that gun is. But Hollywood has convinced some people that it does.

Maybe she should have been more concerned with the (illegal to all) full auto AK-47's that Clinton's pal Johnny Cheung was working to import for the Crips and Bloods, through his pals at Polytech. That's what I think. But what do I know?

 

[Supafly]

It depends on a couple of factors. Full-metal jacket vs. mushrooming would be the main factor along with calibre.

I'm a deer hunter and I've seen this. I made a head shot on a deer once, full metal jacket, and it went through-&-through, although the exit wound was bigger, and I made another head shot on a different deer with mushrooming and most of the skull was blown out on the exit.

I have a book about SWAT teams and techniques and the multiple weapons and ammunition they use.

When you want to go for massive man-stopping, you use soft-nose ammo, maybe even slightly cut the tip a bit. The projectile will blossom up once it hits and really make the hit subject drop right there. Of course, the body will take immense harm, the backside will be a massive hole

As you said, full-metal punches a clean hole

 

[Atar554]

It depends on a couple of factors. Full-metal jacket vs. mushrooming would be the main factor along with calibre.

I'm a deer hunter and I've seen this. I made a head shot on a deer once, full metal jacket, and it went through-&-through, although the exit wound was bigger, and I made another head shot on a different deer with mushrooming and most of the skull was blown out on the exit.

woah.

btw were you aiming for the head or did the deer just get really unlucky?

 

[cindy CD/TV]

That you can shoot off 100 rounds in a shoot-out without hearing protection and they can still hear just fine after. My ears ring for like an hour after firing one shot.

 

[georges]

I have a book about SWAT teams and techniques and the multiple weapons and ammunition they use.

When you want to go for massive man-stopping, you use soft-nose ammo, maybe even slightly cut the tip a bit. The projectile will blossom up once it hits and really make the hit subject drop right there. Of course, the body will take immense harm, the backside will be a massive hole

As you said, full-metal punches a clean hole

The swat uses the springfield trp pro with some custom 8 round wilson combat mag in cal 45 acp, they also use the m4 carbine fitted with surpressor, scope and picatiny rail as well as the benelli m3 pump shotgun. They never used glocks or beretta 92fs. For sniping rifle, it goes from the remington 700 to the barrett xm 107. Swat uses specific ammo made by corbon, federal and winchester. Some are amour piercing and other incendiary.

 

[georges]

Very cool thread. And a great list. The six-gun capable of shooting 16 times has bothered me since I was a kid watching Westerns. But the one that REALLY bothers me these days is #2: Gratuitous Cocking. As much as I enjoyed the TV show, Lost, whenever they'd have a good guy or bad guy constantly cocking a weapon (especially racking a shotgun) it made me . IMO, the worst (on Lost and other shows I've seen) is when you hear a cocking sound... on a gun that has NO EXPOSED HAMMER!!!

In one episode of Lost, they had Sayid carrying a Glock, and to make his point to some bad guy, he "cocked his Glock". I once knew a girl who could glock a cock, but I don't know anyone who can cock a Glock.

I never liked glock, poor ergonomic and the trigegr isn't as smooth and as fast like on para ords or sig sauer p226s. One of the best scenes of shooting a revolver was in magnum force. But there is an incorrect thing in the movie, you can't mount a surpressor on a python. With a surpressor it will make damage to the barrel. In Hunter the series, Fred Dryer had and fired several guns like the HKp9s, s&w model 29, beretta 92 and s&w 639 and at least when he fired the guns there was no constant cocking.

 

[D-rock]

I think one of the dumbest things movies have shown is that the sideways, or "gangsta" way to hold the gun actually works. That crap will make you inaccurate as fuck and I personally think that it looks stupid.

What's even worse is when they show people firing from the hip. Sometimes even soldiers and skilled shooters will do it in the movies. In reality nobody in real life that remotely knows what they were doing would do something stupid like that unless they either literally had no choice for some reason or time was so of the essence they didn't have time to raise the gun to their line of sight. There is no way anybody can aim nearly as well without looking down a gun's sight.

 

[Mr. Daystar]

I never liked glock, poor ergonomic and the trigegr isn't as smooth and as fast like on para ords or sig sauer p226s. One of the best scenes of shooting a revolver was in magnum force. But there is an incorrect thing in the movie, you can't mount a surpressor on a python. With a surpressor it will make damage to the barrel. In Hunter the series, Fred Dryer had and fired several guns like the HKp9s, s&w model 29, beretta 92 and s&w 639 and at least when he fired the guns there was no constant cocking.

You can't really suppress any revolver. The cylinder gap prevents it. The only real hope of suppressing a revolver, is if you use a Dan Wesson...they have adjustable cylinder gaps. But even that wouldn't quiet it down like firing from a closed bolt.

 

[Mr. Daystar]

A great example of a TV gun screw up occurred during the show "MASH". Col. Potter attempted to shoot his jeep, as though it were a wounded horse, and when he pulled the slide back on his .45, it locked open, so he had to fiddle with it. Then he shot the jeep, whit an obvious absence of a flash, round cycling, and an added gunshot report.

 

[Facetious]

I love those movie scenes where a guy gets shot somewhere in the front midsection and he sorta ''flies'' backwards and goes through a window. No, it don't work that way homey! :1orglaugh

As you said, full-metal punches a clean hole

I've seen them keyhole quite effectively

(M1 Garand)

 

[Rey C.]

The swat uses the springfield trp pro with some custom 8 round wilson combat mag in cal 45 acp, they also use the m4 carbine fitted with surpressor, scope and picatiny rail as well as the benelli m3 pump shotgun. They never used glocks or beretta 92fs. For sniping rifle, it goes from the remington 700 to the barrett xm 107. Swat uses specific ammo made by corbon, federal and winchester. Some are amour piercing and other incendiary.

Maybe that's how it is where you live. But here in the U.S., there are Federal (different agencies), state (different agencies) and local SWAT teams. And here, there is no such thing as a standard firearm for SWAT teams. And while I highly doubt any cop would choose a Davis or some other piece of junk, I'm not aware that any brand is excluded from use. When my uncle was on a Federal SWAT team back in the 80's-early 90's, he carried an H&K P7, a Beretta 92, then a Sig 220 or 225 as a sidearm, and a Mossberg 550 as an entry weapon. At one time, he was also assigned an H&K MP5. With the Feds, they could carry any brand of pistol that they wanted, as long as they could qualify with it. With some of the local cops that I used to shoot with, who were part of our SWAT team, most of them carried either Glocks or Berettas chambered in .40 S&W as sidearms. They have a couple of H&K MP5's and I think an M4 or two now - and of course, the required 12 ga. magnum shotguns. Some guys did carry .45 ACP chambered pistols, as well as smaller caliber back-up weapons. I don't know any cops who carry 9mm's anymore - but there might be some. My drinking pal "Trooper Buddy" isn't on a SWAT team anymore, but he carries a Glock 22 that's exactly like mine... only newer. But in his state, just like the Feds when my uncle was serving, the SWAT guys can choose their own sidearms. But you're correct that the ammo varies depending on the situation that they expect to face.