Afghans Murder UN Officials in Kabul

[Trident1]

Ireland isn't a valid example. That's a small scrap(basically over) compared to Islamists killing innocents from South America to the Far East in the name of their allah. Not even a comparison.

 

[Ulysses31]

True. A Brit cop just got taken out by a car bomb. The problem is assholes, not this or that religion.

The Afgan thing is a case of one asshole setting off a shitload of profoundly greater assholes.

What a wonderful world, huh?

He was a Catholic who joined the Northern Ireland Police force, dissident Republicans see the northern irish police as an extension of Prostestant Britains occupation of Ireland, they would have seen him as a traitor and a legitimate target who was 'working for the enemy'. Sad but true. We don't see anyone bother with religious marches in Britain but the Protestants in Northern Ireland march through Catholic areas to wind them up and the British army are forced to protect them as they are allied to the crown, a bit like when the IDF are forced to protect trouble making Jewish settlers in Palestinian towns even if they are annoyed at what they are doing. Both cases are totally about religion and involve one religious group trying to dominate over another.

 

[GregCentauro]

Read the scriptures to tell the difference.

Bible:
"And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him."

Qoran:
Slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them, and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush.

 

[Trident1]

Read the scriptures to tell the difference.

Bible:
"And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him."

Qoran:
Slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them, and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush.

:clap::hatsoff:

 

[D-rock]

Read the scriptures to tell the difference.

Bible:
"And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him."

Qoran:
Slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them, and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush.

To be fair. There are plenty of Judeo-Christian quotes from the Bible that can be taken out of context and sound almost as bad as that.

 

[Hot Mega]

To be fair. There are plenty of Judeo-Christian quotes from the Bible that can be taken out of context and sound almost as bad as that.

I'm a Christian and have read the Bible....'almost'?

 

[D-rock]

I'm a Christian and have read the Bible....'almost'?

I was just saying there are quite a few quotes from the Bible that taken by themselves sound as bad as that quote from the Qur'an does. If one is going to look upon how a religion operates at least there needs to be a better underlying knowledge of it in the context things happen in and it's underlying values and not base things on a few quotes taken here and there.

Given that I still think Islam has a lot more problems and issues than every other major religion, but it's because of the overall way the majority of it's people operate and what it believes.

 

[GregCentauro]

^^ The Bible consists of two conflicting heritages. I deliberately quoted the New Testament as the authoritative, conciliatory gospel as opposed to the Thora which is of minor importance to Christians.
The Old Testament is irrelevant in the context of this thread, because Jews who adhere to the Mosaic Books don't proselytize, no matter what...

 

[Hot Mega]

I was just saying there are quite a few quotes from the Bible that taken by themselves sound as bad as that quote from the Qur'an does. If one is going to look upon how a religion operates at least there needs to be a better underlying knowledge of it in the context things happen in and it's underlying values and not base things on a few quotes taken here and there.

Given that I still think Islam has a lot more problems and issues than every other major religion, but it's because of the overall way the majority of it's people operate and what it believes.

In my post I was tending to agree with you.:2 cents:

 

[meesterperfect]

An eye for an eye or 20 heads for a burnt book.
Whats the difference? You decide.

 

[ragincaucasian]

Apples and oranges. I don't see Christianity making followers go out and butcher innocent people en masse like Islam. Christianity isn't politicized like Islam. Christianity is compatible with Western values, Islam is not.

the point is, though, turning the events in the middle east into some crusade against a belief system is wrought with hypocrisy and is unnecessarily antagonizing the wrong target.

"Christianity" as it is known today, is less of a theology and more to do with Anglo colonialism. "Christians" have little resemblence of NTdogma, that was primarily shaped and codified by the Nicean Council and ruling powers of Europe in the Dark Ages, which is why it requires generational indoctrination of its followers from their birth.

Christianity reformed itself centuries ago. Islam is still in the 8th century.

Yeah....it has

and there is the error of this type of agitating logic. The same elements within Islam that allow it to be radicalized for attrocities, exists within Christianity, as well, which is why it would be an illogical (hyprocritical) endeavor to paint one as benign and another as violent.

You CAN condemn the attrocities and muderous rhetoric without turning it into a holy jihad, ala some type of American Taliban

 

[Ulysses31]

Didn't God (Christian) tell Bush to invade Iraq which resulted in over a million deaths? That's a pretty high death tally if we are comparing the deaths to religion ratio :dunno:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/oct/07/iraq.usa

and there is the error of this type of agitating logic. The same elements within Islam that allow it to be radicalized for attrocities, exists within Christianity, as well, which is why it would be an illogical (hyprocritical) endeavor to paint one as benign and another as violent.

You forgot this holy Christian warrior

http://graph.facebook.com/100000009367703/picture?type=large

Bosnian Genocide, 1992: A Serbian paramilitary soldier from Arkan's Tigers shoots Bosniak (Bosnian Muslim) civilians in the street of Bijeljina on 31 March 1992, the first day of the Bosnian war. Photographer: Ron Haviv

Bosnian Genocide, 1992: Serbian paramilitaries kick and kill Bosniak (Bosnian Muslim) civilians on the streets of Bijeljina on 31 March 1992, the first day of the Bosnian war. Serbian troops slaughtered hundreds of unarmed Bosniak (Bosnian Muslim) civilians - men, women, children and elderly - in during the attack on this norteastern Bosnian city. Photographer: Ron Haviv


Hitler would have been impressed

http://genocideinbosnia.wordpress.com/

 

[LaLiLuLeLohan]

Re: Ten UN staff in Afghanistan murdered in protest against U.S. pastor who burnt Kor

All the blame here lies with that idiot pastor who just incites hatred. The reaction was wrong, but the cause lies in Florida.

Bull-fucking-shit, you apologist idiot. Men and women are responsible for their own actions.

I believe that Muhammad was a genocidal pedophile and "god" doesn't exist. Christ never existed. Abraham and Moses never existed. That gives nobody the right to take life that isn't theirs.


Now go take a bubble bath. And bring your boombox.

 

[GregCentauro]

Didn't God (Christian) tell Bush to invade Iraq which resulted in over a million deaths? That's a pretty high death tally if we are comparing the deaths to religion ratio

That's bull. It probably was Jebus who told Berlusconi to shag a 17-year-old...

The only valid litmus test is: Burn a Bible in Tehran and then wait how many Muslims are being lynched in Kalamazoo, MI.

 

[LaLiLuLeLohan]

Didn't God (Christian) tell Bush to invade Iraq which resulted in over a million deaths? That's a pretty high death tally if we are comparing the deaths to religion ratio :dunno:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/oct/07/iraq.usa

Yeah, but God was on a Morphine IV because he was battling colon cancer. Give the guy a little slack.

 

[ragincaucasian]

I thought once we gave the Afghanis a 'democracy' and allowed their women to vote everything was supposed to be cool?

doubling-down on Afghanistan was about as dumb as invading Iraq

 

[Hot Mega]

That's bull. It probably was Jebus who told Berlusconi to shag a 17-year-old...

The only valid litmus test is: Burn a Bible in Tehran and then wait how many Muslims are being lynched in Kalamazoo, MI.

I suppose in fairness GC... that method is a little passe for so called Christian extremists.

It's a far more outwardly sterile and antiseptic process to "sick" (American term for unleash) an advanced military on a country of muslims where a large enough contingent think they are going to war to exact punishment against muslims in the name of the US and/or Christianity.

In the end, isn't the effect the same?

 

[meesterperfect]

I thought once we gave the Afghanis a 'democracy' and allowed their women to vote everything was supposed to be cool?

doubling-down on Afghanistan was about as dumb as invading Iraq

What does that have to do with this?
And what does arguing that Christains are just as bad have any relevance either?
Next time christians commit a mass murder post a thread about it but all youv'e been doing here is talking about your anti christian feelings and it really doesn't prove a god damn thing other than you don't like christianity.
:hatsoff:

 

[CunningStunts]

That whole area is a backwards cesspool of ignorance with no redeeming qualities whatsoever.

 

[ragincaucasian]

What does that have to do with this?

Afghanistan is not a place the American military en masse needs to be

And what does arguing that Christains are just as bad have any relevance either?
Next time christians commit a mass murder post a thread about it but all youv'e been doing here is talking about your anti christian feelings and it really doesn't prove a god damn thing other than you don't like christianity.
:hatsoff:

i wasn't the one using this event as a launching pad for crusade against another faith. If you can remove your personal emotions from the subject (i.e. "butt hurt") you'd see that it was responding to this (type of rhetoric)

The historian Bernard Lewis had it right when he said Islam is the problem.

I just responded to provide some context to how faulty of an assertion that is.