America: Freedom To Fascism

[Mr. Daystar]

This country is not headed towards fascism...it's headed towards socialism.

and he's right about the Federal Reserve.

I agree sometimes he gets a little carried away, but at least he's not turning a blind eye to the bullshit that is taking place around the world.

Plus, at least his posts and threads aren't as fucked up as Vodkavictim's.

 

[Johan]

Great. Another thread where WTF posts tube videos and calls everyone who disagrees a gubment disinformation blogger. Can a mod just go right ahead and close this thread before BlueBalls posts "Cotton Eye Joe" again?

And one more over-patriotic yankee that cannot stand any criticism towards his God-blessed America

 

[PlasmaTwa2]

What if I started drop kicking babies or beating random passers-by with a tire iron. Would that entice you to close the thread? I mean, if you don't want to save lives, that's fine. The ball's in your court though...

I'd probably ban you for not living up to your potential. Sounds like you're getting soft.

 

[Ace Boobtoucher]

And one more over-patriotic yankee that cannot stand any criticism towards his God-blessed America

Where's that coming from? France? Pfft.......French opinions of anything, especially America carry about as much weight as, I dunno, Venezuela's or Holland's. When it comes to America, sure I wear my heart on my sleeve but that's only because it is the greatest nation on God's green Earth. I have my criticisms of many things wrong with this country and its leadership but God forbid some quiche eating, tree humping, pillow biter call me out on my patriotism. I was a death dealing devil dog from way back and part of the indoctrination was imparting a love of country. What is the first country in the world anyone calls when there is danger on the horizon in the form of natural disasters or invasion? Definitely not France. You have the Foreign Legion, right? Bunch of tough guys and I have the utmost respect for their fighting skills but only because none of them are French. They have to be hired out. So you go ahead and hurl your little limp-wristed insults and give us a call when your country needs to be rescued again.

 

[ragincaucasian]

WTC, your suspicions aren't unfounded, but your focus is a little too narrow and juvenille to think this is just some 'secret' American phenomenon

it really all begins / summed up here
http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/The_End_of_Poverty/70127022?trkid=2361637

 

[Johan]

What is the first country in the world anyone calls when there is danger on the horizon in the form of natural disasters or invasion?

That is uncorrect.
Infact, the US run into action even if the country didn't call for help. As long as there's oil and $, you can count on the US, alway ready to kick ou the bad guy and let the country falls into the hands of guys wich are even worst.
But if US think there's no profit to be made, forget them.

The UN told US no to make war against Iraq. But there was some oil so US get there. But in Lybia, with no oil but Khadafi to take away US engagement is minimum and no US boy was there to get Gbagbo out for Ivory Coast...

So don't claim you, americans, are the World's saviors. You ain't nothing but Dollar's saviors.

 

[Ace Boobtoucher]

I was going to give you the benefit of the doubt and chalk it up to a language barrier and a simple misunderstanding as to why you jumped all over my ass. But I think I'll have to go ahead and say your level of retardation is almost as great as the OP's and put you on my ignore list.

 

[STDiva]

Why do Americans expect some huge thank you for shit they had nothing to do with? You don't see me and brodkill expecting thanks for Bryan Adams. There isn't anybody who doesn't appreciate the efforts of those who fought for our freedoms regardless of which country they fought for. But too many Americans try to hold it over everyone elses head. It's pathetic.

 

[Will E Worm]

Um Canada pays an income tax to a central bank too. We are in the same boat so don't you Canada me Miss Prissy.

Yes

Ok read the thread. Where did I call anyone a Centcom Government disinfo blogger? Like WTF dude? This film was one of the most downloaded films of all time on the internet just behind 'Loose Change' the most downloaded of all time. If you haven't watched it, maybe give it a try before passing judgment.

You didn't call anyone anything. Liberals just like to call names, point fingers, and bypass the issues, it is much easier than looking up the facts for themselves.

This country is not headed towards fascism...it's headed towards socialism.

Same thing and we are already into the stage of socialism.

Socialism and Fascism

Taken in full historical context, with full consideration of philosophic principle, socialism and fascism are essentially the same.

Fascism is socialism


“Socialism is a fraud, a comedy, a phantom, a blackmail.”
Benito Mussolini

"The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition of socialism."- Karl Marx"

Socialism is fascism.

 

[ragincaucasian]

is it possible you have no clue what you're talking about?

Same thing and we are already into the stage of socialism.

the working class control the economy? Its actually the exact OPPOSITE

Taken in full historical context, with full consideration of philosophic principle, socialism and fascism are essentially the same.

Socialism is fascism

Fascism uses a totalitarian government to implement the “Third Way”, where the state controls corporations and is generally brutally oppressive in its enforcement.


(big) 'C'ommunism (as a totalitarian system, not philosophical 'communism' theory) is a single-party controlling the government [see China] and allocating for the citizens.

The Nazis were essentially German Fascists.

What AMERICA is would be defined as an Oligarchy, or banana republic

 

[Will E Worm]

is it possible who have no clue what you're talking about?

I do know what I am talking about and you just proved the first point in my last comment.

Good job. :1orglaugh

 

[ragincaucasian]

I do know what I am talking about

I'm sure you're well versed in AM Talk radio talking points, but as far as Economics and Political Science 101, you've simply just mashed buzzwords together

 

[Will E Worm]

I'm sure you're well versed in AM Talk radio talking points, but as far as Economics and Political Science 101, you've simply just mashed buzzwords together

You did it again.

talking point:
a fact or feature that aids or supports one side, as in an argument or competition.

Talking points are a good thing. Talk radio can be good or bad. :hatsoff:

 

[ragincaucasian]

they are the 'same' inasmuch as a penguin and a pelican are the same bird....because.....afterall, they BOTH HAVE WINGS!!!!


false equivocation is awesome

 

[Will E Worm]

I love your facts proving your talking points. :1orglaugh

 

[ragincaucasian]

I'm not sure what you see as so difficult to grasp

These are very basic concepts on how political theories affect economic models, yet you're muddying the very definitions of these concepts.
There isn't anything here to be confused about, but your assertions are not much different than WTCwaspulled Alex-Jonesing

 

[lurkingdirk]

Everyone please remember, WTC and Will E are not interested in discussion. They'd just like to tell you what's right (even though they actually don't know themselves, as all they can do is post the thoughts of others or make declarations based on misinformation).

 

[Will E Worm]

These are very basic concepts on how political theories affect economic models, yet you're muddying the very definitions of these concepts

That is not a fact nor proof.

It is avoiding the issue altogether.

Just agree to disagree.

I am not interested in discussions with liberals. Who do not think and can only mimic the
thoughts of others or make declarations based on misinformation.

We can agree to disagree.

 

[ragincaucasian]

I can play - I've got time to kill

That is not a fact nor proof.

its not? Have you ever taken a course on Economics, world history, or Political Science?

It is avoiding the issue altogether.

The "issue" is actually the Constitutionality of income tax (the OP) and I'd LOVE to have a discussion about that bullshit
YOUR "issue" was attempting to assert two distinctly different governing models are the same thing. They aren't and no intelligent person would ever make that comparison (show me someone who isn't Alex Jones or some other hack trolling for webclicks actually articulating how they are one-and-the-same).

Whats more is America isn't headed toward either one (so even if socialism and facism were the same, America still isn't going to get there). The influence of global markets for corporate interests are what direct American state and foreign policy. This isn't a secret. That isn't hyperbole (and there IS actually a governing model with a name that captures this).

Just agree to disagree.

disagree about what? These are fundamental principles of government and economics that you apparently weren't aware of.

I am not interested in discussions with liberals. Who do not think and can only mimic the thoughts of others or make declarations based on misinformation.

what makes me a 'librul'? simply because I don't echo your refrain?

We can agree to disagree.

why? you're wrong.:tongue:

 

[Will E Worm]

why? you're wrong.:tongue:

You're the one who is wrong. :tongue:

Most of the "history" you have been told is a lie.

"The "issue" is actually the Constitutionality of income tax.."

Which is illegal. If you watch the movie you will see an actual IRS conman squirm and outright lie about the issue.

Now agree to disagree. :hatsoff: