America, the land of freedom!

[Spreeuw]

True Communism has never been seen.
As for the elite taking all the wealth, that's happening right now in VERY capitalist Britain. I even hear their gonna stamp down on employee rights, like tribunals if you're illegally fired.
Haven't heard it from a reputable source yet, so hope I'm wrong.

True that my friend, too many people confuse Leninism with Communism...

 

[bustybbwlover]

...and fascism with communism, that seems to be a common mistake since many fascist states call themselves communist

 

[Atar554]

Okidoki, so it´s not freedom nor peace when I declare :

1. drinking water
2. food
3. a place to live

for EVERYONE .

But there should be *more* peace / freedom if this is done.

Drinking water food and living space are all resources. Resources that are controlled by somebody all the time.

Freedom would be the idea that you have the right to seek those out and get your share yourself as opposed to being given it by a large government or corporation.

It's not as simple as that but I think that's what people are driving at when putting Freedom in general first on their list.

 

[Trident1]

All Communist states are fascist and vice versa.

 

[vodkazvictim]

True that my friend, too many people confuse Leninism with Communism...

:thumbsup:

...and fascism with communism, that seems to be a common mistake since many fascist states call themselves communist

Look, here is the warning...

All Communist states are fascist and vice versa.

...and here is the guy who ignored it!

OK, let me lay this out: We have never seen a truly Communist government, only governments claiming to be so and claiming to take their inspiration from Marx.
Do you really think Stalin had the best interests of the workers at heart when he put into effect laws that could force a person to move home for the benefit of their job?

Now that we've established that the "Communist" party of the USSR was about as truly Communist as china, lets take a look at america, the land of freedom! (see? I kept it topical! Yay me!)
Have there been show trials?
Yes! There have! The Mccarthyite witch hunt! america was founded on the ideal of believing what you want, and there is was betrayed.
But at least such things never happen today right? Well, put it this way, ALLAH HU AKBAR!
You know that your neighbour can send you off to a foreign prison to be tortured with one phone call.
By the way, how are your elites? Are they acting just like the Soviet elites? I do believe they are...

 

[Spreeuw]

Vodkazvictim, God bless his soul, does all that is necessary.
Giving daydreamers a cold, hard punch in the face with a fist full of truth...

 

[Trident1]

http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/why-communism-failed/


Communism did exist Vodka, in the Soviet Union before Stalin comes to power. Even then it failed.

 

[Spreeuw]

http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/why-communism-failed/


Communism did exist Vodka, in the Soviet Union before Stalin comes to power. Even then it failed.

This is, like so many times, not communism. Communism is about the deconstruction of the state, in that respect it is a lot like anarchy. The difference that anarchy can be purely individualistic, communism stresses the social nature of men, and it's inclination towards the good.

 

[pete rose]

America, for the most part, is smug as fuck. There are so many more places that are more free than us.

 

[saschaxx]

America, for the most part, is smug as fuck. There are so many more places that are more free than us.

..mmhh Pete, I can understand you very well. For example : It´s not allowed to use a motorboat on city-streets in Brewerton ...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/539768/posts

 

[Spreeuw]

I always find it a bit odd that apparently the law doesn't assume that US citizens have common sense.
So much unnecessary restricting laws (and instruction manuals with products)...