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Band Of Brothers

Ol-Skool-Perv

I ran out of lube. Can I borrow yours?
Bloody excellent stuff!!

The battle sequences are just plain amazing.

I am a stickler for detail and realism, hence before Saving Private Ryan and BoB, I'd always been left wanting.

The BoB scene where the men are about to advance on the town is a prime example of this exquisite combat filming. When the krauts open up on their position with LMG fire, the array of bullet richochet, deflection, and contact sounds is bloody captivating. There's so many different pitches and sounds being created by the walls of lead being fired their way...jaw dropping.

What the makers of SPR and BoB don't do is why I love them so much. Unlike all the shit action movies and cartoon war movies out there, in SPR and BoB you'll not see...

The Dance of the Bullet Riddled Victim - we've all seen this too many times before. The shot shows the unlucky bad guy, or good guy, being hit by automatic small arms fire. As the multiple rounds slam into his torso one after the other in stylised blood packet squibs, he remains standing in place, arms flapping about, legs quivering, doing the funky chicken. Only after the last bullet rips through his body does the "actor" fall to the ground...or my favorite...falls over a railing or out of a window.
In BoB, death is quick and sudden. From standing and alive to lying in a dead heap in mere seconds. When the dude pops the fleeing Nazi in the back from distance, the target drops hard to his final resting place, a puff of smoke on his back and DOWN. For me, perfect realism.

The Magazine That Never Empties - on average, most automatic weapons fire ten bullets per second. The Thompson and the MP-40 were a bit slower methinks, but not by much. Call me crazy but when I watch a movie and some kind of automatic weapon firing gets going, I start counting. All too often the firing continues long past real life re-load time. Watch the final bank robbing sequence in HEAT. I can't stand it. 30 round clips that go on and on and on and on. No one trained to use these weapons properly would ever fire such long bursts. So many movies have this unrealistic gunplay. That's Hollywood? Fuck Hollywood!
In BoB, the "PINGs" of the empty clips popping out of the M1 Garand rifles are numerous and realistic. The soldiers fire bursts, they re-load and they get killed while trying to do so. No one squeezes the trigger for 6 seconds and takes out 4 bad guys from an open, standing position. Thank god!

I'm probably alone on this one but for me, today's stylised, sensationalised gunplay seen in "action" movies sucks shit. Throw in some slow motion bullshit and I'm really about to hurl. SPR and BoB brought me to combat paradise and satisfying me more would take quite an effort. Oh yeah, the BoB storyline was amazing too. Ya wanted more combat, but in the end the ballance portrayed was like real war .
 

Summer

Banned
Ol-Skool-Perv said:
Bloody excellent stuff!!

The battle sequences are just plain amazing.

I am a stickler for detail and realism, hence before Saving Private Ryan and BoB, I'd always been left wanting.

The BoB scene where the men are about to advance on the town is a prime example of this exquisite combat filming. When the krauts open up on their position with LMG fire, the array of bullet richochet, deflection, and contact sounds is bloody captivating. There's so many different pitches and sounds being created by the walls of lead being fired their way...jaw dropping.

What the makers of SPR and BoB don't do is why I love them so much. Unlike all the shit action movies and cartoon war movies out there, in SPR and BoB you'll not see...

The Dance of the Bullet Riddled Victim - we've all seen this too many times before. The shot shows the unlucky bad guy, or good guy, being hit by automatic small arms fire. As the multiple rounds slam into his torso one after the other in stylised blood packet squibs, he remains standing in place, arms flapping about, legs quivering, doing the funky chicken. Only after the last bullet rips through his body does the "actor" fall to the ground...or my favorite...falls over a railing or out of a window.
In BoB, death is quick and sudden. From standing and alive to lying in a dead heap in mere seconds. When the dude pops the fleeing Nazi in the back from distance, the target drops hard to his final resting place, a puff of smoke on his back and DOWN. For me, perfect realism.

The Magazine That Never Empties - on average, most automatic weapons fire ten bullets per second. The Thompson and the MP-40 were a bit slower methinks, but not by much. Call me crazy but when I watch a movie and some kind of automatic weapon firing gets going, I start counting. All too often the firing continues long past real life re-load time. Watch the final bank robbing sequence in HEAT. I can't stand it. 30 round clips that go on and on and on and on. No one trained to use these weapons properly would ever fire such long bursts. So many movies have this unrealistic gunplay. That's Hollywood? Fuck Hollywood!
In BoB, the "PINGs" of the empty clips popping out of the M1 Garand rifles are numerous and realistic. The soldiers fire bursts, they re-load and they get killed while trying to do so. No one squeezes the trigger for 6 seconds and takes out 4 bad guys from an open, standing position. Thank god!

I'm probably alone on this one but for me, today's stylised, sensationalised gunplay seen in "action" movies sucks shit. Throw in some slow motion bullshit and I'm really about to hurl. SPR and BoB brought me to combat paradise and satisfying me more would take quite an effort. Oh yeah, the BoB storyline was amazing too. Ya wanted more combat, but in the end the ballance portrayed was like real war .

Amen brother i'm a hearing ya on FM :thumbsup:
 

Red Spyder

Yes, I bribed and cheated to get this far
Not only that but you don't really see that much flagwaving, not that there's anything wrong with that, though it would have definetely made it seem cheesier, like an old John Wayne movie. SPR and BoB were mostly about the bonds of brotherhood that rise among men who fight together in war, not so much for God and country as much for the guys in the squad/company.
 

thegunner

I've almost reached 2,000 posts without ever using Search!
I got the DVD boxset for Christmas. I just finished watching it there now. It has got to be the best series I have seen. I couldn't get enough of it, so much so I stayed up until 4am last night to watch it to the end.
 
i have the dvd-box with 6 dvds and a total runnigtim of 782 min. at home.:nanner: its a very good tv-movie!:bowdown: ;)

I agree. De DVD-box is in mine collection too.
It's a great serie and , to my opinion, everyone who's interested in Wold War II must have seen it.
 

MILF Man

milf n' cookies
I've had the box set for several years. It's a great series! WWII history buffs will love it as I do.
 

Roughneck

Stick with Freeones
BoB has many, many, many technical flaws.

But it's a decent vehicle as far as "story telling" goes. Hell, even a cynical old bastard like me found some empathy amongst those suffering at Bastogne/Foy or being sent on that "Last Patrol". While I'd never served at those locations, I could empathize with the PBI putting up with that ****.


Now, when are they releasing the Pacific Theater version of it? I suspect it will get an "X" rating or will be heavily edited before release if the producers try to stay true to it (which I doubt they would) - and I wouldn't be surprised if it did get a hard rating [one only has to read a tiny bit of the chapter titled "Of Mud and Maggots" from Eugene Sledge's excellent memoir of the Pacific War titled "With the Old Breed" to know what I'm talking about:::

"Each day, brought some new dimension of dread...I witnessed some new, ghastly, macabre facet in the kaleidoscope of the unreal."

From one hell to another, the 1st Marine Division again encountered the defense in depth at Okinawa, the last amphibious invasion. This action utilized the largest invasion fleet ever assembled in the Pacific. On Peleliu the digging of foxholes and burial sites was impossible due to the coral surface of the island with little or no soil. The enemy dead were everywhere, bloated and covered with maggots. The stench of decaying flesh and excrement was unrelenting. On Okinawa, the situation was worse. The precise and constant shelling by the enemy often prevented the moving of American dead as well.

"When enemy artillery exploded in the area, the eruption of soil and mud uncovered previously buried Japanese dead and scattered chunks of corpses...the ridge was a stinking compost pile. If a Marine slipped and slid down the back slope of the muddy ridge, he was apt to reach the bottom vomiting...horror stricken in disbelief while fat maggots tumbled out of his muddy dungaree pockets, cartridge belt, legging lacings, and the like. It is too preposterous to think that men could actually live and fight for days and nights on end under such terrible conditions and not be driven insane."

Think we'll see that on film? Naaah, I doubt it.]

BoB as good a narrative as it is, is a little too sanitized (we've had this discussion before).


cheers,

PS: As sanitised as BoB is, please don't compare it with that pile of garbage called "Saving Private Ryan".
Thank you.

PPS: I for one would love it if someone could make an updated version of "All Quiet On the Western Front"... or even convert Joe Haldeman's "Forever War" to true movie format.
 

tiger1977

Looking to go where no FreeOnes member has gone before!
It is a great series. My Western Civ class watched is the last week of classes (just after studying WWII) this past semester. Great show. More tv needs to made like it.
 

Friday on my mind

Pain heals, chicks dig scars, Freeones lasts forever
Best set of DVDs out there on WW2 has to be the documentary "World at War".
 

Ol-Skool-Perv

I ran out of lube. Can I borrow yours?
Best set of DVDs out there on WW2 has to be the documentary "World at War".

Hell yeah, I was mesmerized by the series as a child. I would check the PBS schedule every week and I must have watched every episode 3 or 4 times. The best narration other than the guy from Frontline(he is legend).

Outstanding!:nanner:
 

Friday on my mind

Pain heals, chicks dig scars, Freeones lasts forever
Hell yeah, I was mesmerized by the series as a child. I would check the PBS schedule every week and I must have watched every episode 3 or 4 times. The best narration other than the guy from Frontline(he is legend).

Outstanding!:nanner:

It is British made and the narrator was the very famous actor Laurence Olivier.
 
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