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Bill Maher shreds organized religion on Scarborough Country
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Ace Bandage
The one and only.
Okay...:dunno: What is there to disagree with apart from his belief in Jesus? Seems to me like he nailed everything else.
HELLRAISER
Looking to go where no FreeOnes member has gone before!
I can't wait to see his latest film called Religelous
sporty_carr
Tip: install a spycam in your toilet.
Bill Maher's a douche.
So that's how he got in so many Playmate's vaginas!!!:1orglaugh
I'm sure having a lot of money helped and being a minor celebrity,...a lot. :1orglaugh
Sorry for the double post but my connection went out and I couldn't edit.
One thing that always bothers me as somebody who is religious(Although I don't do anything to show it other than trying to live right, I don't force my beliefs on other people, and I don't have anything to do with organized religions) is why when people talk down people that are religious and compare us to evangelicals or other nuts, tell us of the worst things religious people or organizations have done, or put all religious people in all one lump and stereotype us is why they never bring up any of the good stuff religious people have done. Why are we often compared to small meaningless dumb ass acts some religious people feel they need to do. Why do they gloss over the deeds of people like Martin Luther King Jr., Gandhi, or Mother Teresa for example. Does anybody think they would have been the people they were without their spiritual beliefs? Does anybody think their beliefs made them stupid or weaklings? Why is it so often not mention that most of the human rights and most deeply held liberties we protect today are from the basis of religious belief? Long after people that don't believe in something greater have given up, caved in, and surrender a lot of people that do believe will keep going because they feel something that's greater than the situation they are in, that's even greater than themselves.
A lot of atheist and agnostic people out there I don't even think they feel the way they do out of any principle or belief. They have nothing to believe in. Even the ones that do often can't tell you why they feel something is right or wrong other than, "I just do" or "just because". What I feel is that a lot of them decide not to believe in anything (or at least claim they don't believe in something) not out of principle, but because it's convenient for them to do so. It lets them do what they want, because if they were to believe in something they might have to do some things that don't benefit themselves. They might have to sacrifice some things or comforts. They would loose an excuse to be selfish or apathetic. That seems like weakness to me. Like some of them are just empty husk that live empty existences, but what I do know. I'm just one of those weak religious people.
It's never religion or maybe even the lack of it that was the problem. It's some of the stupid people that do stupid things. All systems, all organizations can go wrong and become twisted when the people in them get corrupted, and it's in human nature to be able to be corrupted.
One thing that always bothers me as somebody who is religious(Although I don't do anything to show it other than trying to live right, I don't force my beliefs on other people, and I don't have anything to do with organized religions) is why when people talk down people that are religious and compare us to evangelicals or other nuts, tell us of the worst things religious people or organizations have done, or put all religious people in all one lump and stereotype us is why they never bring up any of the good stuff religious people have done. Why are we often compared to small meaningless dumb ass acts some religious people feel they need to do. Why do they gloss over the deeds of people like Martin Luther King Jr., Gandhi, or Mother Teresa for example. Does anybody think they would have been the people they were without their spiritual beliefs? Does anybody think their beliefs made them stupid or weaklings? Why is it so often not mention that most of the human rights and most deeply held liberties we protect today are from the basis of religious belief? Long after people that don't believe in something greater have given up, caved in, and surrender a lot of people that do believe will keep going because they feel something that's greater than the situation they are in, that's even greater than themselves.
A lot of atheist and agnostic people out there I don't even think they feel the way they do out of any principle or belief. They have nothing to believe in. Even the ones that do often can't tell you why they feel something is right or wrong other than, "I just do" or "just because". What I feel is that a lot of them decide not to believe in anything (or at least claim they don't believe in something) not out of principle, but because it's convenient for them to do so. It lets them do what they want, because if they were to believe in something they might have to do some things that don't benefit themselves. They might have to sacrifice some things or comforts. They would loose an excuse to be selfish or apathetic. That seems like weakness to me. Like some of them are just empty husk that live empty existences, but what I do know. I'm just one of those weak religious people.
It's never religion or maybe even the lack of it that was the problem. It's some of the stupid people that do stupid things. All systems, all organizations can go wrong and become twisted when the people in them get corrupted, and it's in human nature to be able to be corrupted.
jasonk282
Banned
Great post. You take the good and the bad with your religion. I am Roman Catholic and we have done very very bad things and we have done some very very good things as well. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
CunningStunts
I changed my middle-name to Freeones
The irony with Bill Maher is that he has become exactly the thing he claims to despise - he's a ideologue who doesn't think about issues, he is rabidly one-sided on everything. He simply makes a living making fun of anyone and anything that is not in line with his belief system. How is that any different?
titsrock
I'm too lazy to set a usertitle.
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He doesn't label himself a "news" person of any kind. He gets people from different political views to actually express their views with very little bullshit.
If he comes off as an ideologue, it's probably because the conservative/wacko/teabagger militia movement, now known as the shambles of the GOP, make it so easy to appear as an ideologue.
Do we know if this clip is recent or from last year when his movie, Religulous, actually came out?
He doesn't label himself a "news" person of any kind. He gets people from different political views to actually express their views with very little bullshit.
If he comes off as an ideologue, it's probably because the conservative/wacko/teabagger militia movement, now known as the shambles of the GOP, make it so easy to appear as an ideologue.
Do we know if this clip is recent or from last year when his movie, Religulous, actually came out?
CunningStunts
I changed my middle-name to Freeones
TR, I stand by my statement... he's just as much of a "whacko" as anyone of the personalities on the right... it's just that you agree with him, so therefore don't have as much of a problem with his being loose with the truth to prove his agenda.
jasonk282
Banned
The right has Glenn Beck, the left has Bill Maher
Hot Mega
I'm too lazy to set a usertitle.
He asserts (or implies) he believes in God but not religion. I love Bill Maher but how do you get to knowing God or understanding faith without a religion?
How does one independently undergird a belief in God without the support and framework of a some religion?
And it's not necessarily true that being born someplace automatically determining what religion you will follow. There are plenty of Christians (for example) throughout the middle east and to the extent that they aren't in some places it's largely due to being driven out.
Believe whichever way you want but he is coming off here as cathartically as he accuses evangelicals of being.
How does one independently undergird a belief in God without the support and framework of a some religion?
And it's not necessarily true that being born someplace automatically determining what religion you will follow. There are plenty of Christians (for example) throughout the middle east and to the extent that they aren't in some places it's largely due to being driven out.
Believe whichever way you want but he is coming off here as cathartically as he accuses evangelicals of being.
Friday on my mind
Pain heals, chicks dig scars, Freeones lasts forever
Just watched it to see what he really said and yes he says he might beleive in god but not religion.As an atheist I always thought that was a cop out position.When people say that you are then left with OK what do you beleive that means Bill.Did god create us ,do you believe in creationism? Are we special with the so-called divine spark etc etc etc or are we just highly developed animals like most atheists would say.
Maher is usually right but here he is being a little ambiguous IMO.
Mrs Jolly
You can't have everything! Where would you put it?!
Wonderful post Mr D rock. Not only could you fill a book picking up on the things you have talked about you could fill the library where you kept that book.
I propose a different thread be set up where individuals who are concerned with the level of douchness of Bill Maher can have at it. Apparently it would be a bonus if people could post pictures of the various locations where Bill Maher's penis hangs out when the viagra kicks in.
You mention a group of religious figures and the good work they perform. Extremely erroneously in my opinion you include Mother Teresa in this list. Never has an individual done less to recieve more adulation than this woman. Her reputation is iron clad and even doubting it will invite scorn upon you. I would direct you to the book "The Missionary Position," by Christopher Hitchens.
It it Hitchens provides the evidence that the majority of the "work" which is always described as selfless, was to raise money for and the profile of the church. Her mission in Calcutta never got decent medical supplies, the dying were left on cots on the floor, needles were not steliized. All this occured while her mission was fantastically successful at raising money. Where did this money go?
The thing that burns me most of all though is that the sick and terminally dying in her facillities were denied pain killers. I do not have the imagination to appreciate the horror of being eaten alive by cancer over a couple of months but if I was confronted by it I would work to ease that pain. Obscenely in my opinion, the rationale for not doing this was that through the suffering they would be brought closer to Jesus.
Conversely when Mother Teresa herself got sick she was put on a plane and taken to a prive Swiss clinic for some of the best pain free treatment in the world.
This is just one small aspect of a long case made against her. When the storm broke on the books publication the waves of criticism all centered on Hitchen's personal habits his drinking etc. Never have any of the charges in the book been refuted.
As a postscript her diaries were published after her death and it seems that she doubted her religion as well fearing that there was nothing there. Knowing that her treatment of the dying is even worse.
Anyway don't take my word for it watch this documentary.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WQ0i3nCx60
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKkcDgeYBdk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGuzFUeDDgY
I propose a different thread be set up where individuals who are concerned with the level of douchness of Bill Maher can have at it. Apparently it would be a bonus if people could post pictures of the various locations where Bill Maher's penis hangs out when the viagra kicks in.
You mention a group of religious figures and the good work they perform. Extremely erroneously in my opinion you include Mother Teresa in this list. Never has an individual done less to recieve more adulation than this woman. Her reputation is iron clad and even doubting it will invite scorn upon you. I would direct you to the book "The Missionary Position," by Christopher Hitchens.
It it Hitchens provides the evidence that the majority of the "work" which is always described as selfless, was to raise money for and the profile of the church. Her mission in Calcutta never got decent medical supplies, the dying were left on cots on the floor, needles were not steliized. All this occured while her mission was fantastically successful at raising money. Where did this money go?
The thing that burns me most of all though is that the sick and terminally dying in her facillities were denied pain killers. I do not have the imagination to appreciate the horror of being eaten alive by cancer over a couple of months but if I was confronted by it I would work to ease that pain. Obscenely in my opinion, the rationale for not doing this was that through the suffering they would be brought closer to Jesus.
Conversely when Mother Teresa herself got sick she was put on a plane and taken to a prive Swiss clinic for some of the best pain free treatment in the world.
This is just one small aspect of a long case made against her. When the storm broke on the books publication the waves of criticism all centered on Hitchen's personal habits his drinking etc. Never have any of the charges in the book been refuted.
As a postscript her diaries were published after her death and it seems that she doubted her religion as well fearing that there was nothing there. Knowing that her treatment of the dying is even worse.
Anyway don't take my word for it watch this documentary.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WQ0i3nCx60
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKkcDgeYBdk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGuzFUeDDgY
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Jagger69
Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
I took his comments as being directed at organized religion....the "religious bureaucracy" I think he called it. I feel exactly the same way. I believe in a concept of what most of you out there would construe to be "God" (although I'm pretty sure my vision of what God is differs greatly from any of you who attend church, temple, mosque or synagogue) but I have no use nor need for some congregational and dogmatic approach to "knowing God" or "understanding faith" as you put it.
meesterperfect
Hiliary 2020
hellraiser you are about as branwashed and lost as one can get.
this is not an attack on religion, its an attack on christians by a jew.
period. he says religion but his only talking about christianity.
its sick in a way to hear someone like him tell america how christians have such a huge influence on the GOV, considering reality isthat its isreal or jews that have such a enormous influence on the united states government and the media it would take all day to show you.
I know but if he says it its cool, if i say the opposite i'm anti semite.
the good old double standard.
And whether he's right or wrong isn't really the issue because who is he to say which religion if any is true.
some of you people need to see things for what they are and not be tricked so easily.
Another example
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainmen...asts-larry-david-curb-episode-urinates-jesus/
pissing on jesus
jasonk282
Banned
LOL you actually put this message on You Tube? :rofl: Click the OP's link and then scroll to comments and there is MP.
I think you have the making's of a White Supreamist. :2 cents:
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