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DietCrush

I joined ‘cause I was ‘high’!
You know what I'm afraid of?

Living in a world that is constantly being defined by fear; much of it artificially created to serve the agendas of the corrupt, the weak and the greedy.

I'm scared to death of spiders! fuckers are creepy! wouldn't you know it, white people are a minority compared to spiders!!!! AAAHHHH, what am I going to do
 

meesterperfect

Hiliary 2020
hmmm now in the context of that post asking "what are you afraid of" was in regards to white becoming a minority. So were these fears in response to white becoming a minority or just in general? You really think that it's only minorities who make some streets not safe? You really think it's only minorities who rape young women? You really think it's only mnorities doing drugs? come on...

he asked.
and no I don't think those things.
but I do live in the real world.
 

Trident1

Less than 1,000 posts away from my free Freeones T-shirt
Is that right? OK....I am proud of my white heritage and culture. You're saying I am a racist? Bullshit...."liberal white guilt" is a myth that was put up as a straw man by those who couldn't accept the fact that a white person could look at Obama the candidate as simply that instead of Obama the black candidate. Tell me, which one of those viewpoints is racist in nature?




Once again you misread what I wrote.

When I said "If a white person proclaims the same thing he/she is racist." that is how LIBERALS feel about whites who are proud to white.


"Liberal white guilt" exists whether you like it or not. I don't suffer from it but oh so many liberal "progressives" do like the jellyfish that they are.
 

Trident1

Less than 1,000 posts away from my free Freeones T-shirt
I'm afraid of my daughter getting gang raped at a high school dance while other students cheer on and take pictures with their cel phones.
I'm afraid of having half my money taken in taxes and having it given to illegal mexicans and other people who don't work but have a kid every year.
I'm afraid of walking alone at night in almost every ciity in the country.
I'm afraid of seeing every city in the country turn into a drug ridden, violent crime ghetto.
I'm afraid of living in poverty although working everyday.
I'm afraid of being denied a job, house or student loan because of the color of my skin.
I'm afraid of being accused of a hate crime.
I'm afraid of being accused of racism, 2011 style.
I could go on, but I gotta go eat something now.




Just hold your head up high, and say "Fuck everyone else." I do.:hatsoff:
 

Master Roshi

All hail the FO Cult Mother!
I find it very sad that many people worldwide still discuss humans on a black vs. white level, IMO if we as a species are ever gonna universally evolve as a species we need to start looking at the world on an earthling level, below is a design for a human being flag which I do like

http://www.humanbeingflag.com/


 

BadNewsBewes

My goal in life is to win a Freeones T-shirt!
Too much labelling people racists in this thread, but no suprise its turned out exactly like I thought it would.

Not everyone has lived in harmony with other ethnic groups. In some places it just doesn't work. The ethnic groups are not interested in integration. Is that the 'whites' fault because they are racists?
 

TheOrangeCat

AFK..being taken to the vet to get neutered.
I find it very sad that many people worldwide still discuss humans on a black vs. white level,

I was thinking the same thing earlier .... maybe it's because I'm white, so I've never had to really deal with the issue of my color as a definition in and of itself, but I don't and never have thought of, or defined, myself in terms of my color or creed.

Culture, yes, values yes, morals yes, but color ... never, and I like to think that if I do judge someone who happens to be of a different ethnicity, it's not about their color or creed, but about their behavior as a human being.

Yes, I know - culture and color are (or can be) very tightly interwoven, but - to take a facile example - the fact that someone calls their kid LaShondra or, is here illegally from mexico to make a better life for themselves - is not, to me, a color or race issue. It's one of personal choice - as is the choice to call your kid Adolf or immigrate illegally from Poland .....

This might be a paper thin line, but it is a line. I ask you - so Hispanics become an ethnic majority: how is that a problem within a national culture that has immigration at its heart? It's the same for any nation that has a policy of allowing immigration: illegal or not, you can't open the gates to outsiders and then complain when they walk through them.
 

meesterperfect

Hiliary 2020
you mean the border?
so are you saying because the government allows so many people to come into the US that the people should have no right or reason to question it?
 

TheOrangeCat

AFK..being taken to the vet to get neutered.
you mean the border?
so are you saying because the government allows so many people to come into the US that the people should have no right or reason to question it?

Is this a question for me?

If so, then no - I didn't say that and, no, I don't believe it. As an immigrant myself, I went through the proper procedure to get my migration and residency approved.

I found this just now:

The 2010 Census counted 50.5 million Hispanics in the United States, making up 16.3% of the total population. The nation's Latino population, which was 35.3 million in 2000, grew 43% over the decade. The Hispanic population also accounted for most of the nation's growth—56%—from 2000 to 2010.

The vast majority of Hispanics are there legally (there are an estimated 11.2 illegal immigrants (of all ethnicities) in the US, of which 8 million work illegally. Even if you doubled it and said they were all Hispanics, it's still less than the legally resident number) having satisfied the US government's criteria for residency and gone through the proper legal channels to achieve it.

So the fact they are becoming an ethnic majority is directly connected to the official US immigration policies which let them in. Hence my 'open the gate' comment.
 

Hot Mega

I'm too lazy to set a usertitle.
Is this a question for me?

(Pssst...He probably thinks adding the your statement from the post he's responding to is somehow 'quoting' you and therefore flaming you in some strange way. You'll have to bear with it and roll the dice on who or what specifically some of these people are responding to.)
 

meesterperfect

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Supafly

Moderator
Staff member
Bronze Member
Okay, time to put a stop to all that cursing and name-calling.

If you want to argue, that is very well, but if you want to curse, name-call and insult, either take it to Private Messages, or don't do it.

And trying to make apoint by daring staff to ban you, that is just wrong.

If you feel like needing a time off, you know, you can actually log out and do something else for some days. Works wonders.

There is a rule in the german army, maybe considering it may help you:

Before you can put in an official complaint, you have to wait over night until next day. So think about answering a post you strongly disagree with until tomorrow. Saves me the banning etc and saves us all so many irrational white-hot fury.

Thank you, and now please go easier on these things. I live in a part of town that is home to so many immigrants and children of these, jews, over from russia, turkish people, gypsies, exiled from France etc, you name it.

My position is:

Do you want to swear about things going downhill or be apart of things going uphill? I am working in some groups that offer various activities where the local tirkish, jewish and other societies meet and play bingo, do outdoors walks and stuff like minigolf etc.

This is a very good thing, and it's a joy to witness how they become friends.

What do YOU do for your fellow citizen may they be from another country?

Remember: Wherever you live, your ancestors at some point moved there due to hardship they were in in their old country. Are you denying the same right for other people now? If so: Will you accept that you then have to go home, too?

But where do we have to stop? If everybody actually stems from some spot in Africa, that would be a pretty crowded place, and as I understand, there is no DSL available, and baby oil is in short supply :1orglaugh
 

Jagger69

Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
Once again you misread what I wrote.

When I said "If a white person proclaims the same thing he/she is racist." that is how LIBERALS feel about whites who are proud to white.


"Liberal white guilt" exists whether you like it or not. I don't suffer from it but oh so many liberal "progressives" do like the jellyfish that they are.

I didn't misread anything ("once again...." :1orglaugh), Trident. I think it is fascinating that you proclaim to have the definitive book on how liberals feel about whites who are proud to be white. Can you tell me what page that "liberal white guilt" things is on?

It's your opinion and that's fine but don't present something as being a fact when there is no reference given to indicate that it is other than because you say so.

I'd opine that if someone feels guilty about something they probably have a damned good reason for feeling that way and being liberal or conservative or somewhere in between has little or nothing to do with it. However, that's just my opinion so take it for what it's worth. ;)
 

JayJohn85

Banned
"Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering" Yoda
 

meesterperfect

Hiliary 2020
Okay, time to put a stop to all that cursing and name-calling.

If you want to argue, that is very well, but if you want to curse, name-call and insult, either take it to Private Messages, or don't do it.

And trying to make apoint by daring staff to ban you, that is just wrong.

If you feel like needing a time off, you know, you can actually log out and do something else for some days. Works wonders.

There is a rule in the german army, maybe considering it may help you:

Before you can put in an official complaint, you have to wait over night until next day. So think about answering a post you strongly disagree with until tomorrow. Saves me the banning etc and saves us all so many irrational white-hot fury.

Thank you, and now please go easier on these things. I live in a part of town that is home to so many immigrants and children of these, jews, over from russia, turkish people, gypsies, exiled from France etc, you name it.

My position is:

Do you want to swear about things going downhill or be apart of things going uphill? I am working in some groups that offer various activities where the local tirkish, jewish and other societies meet and play bingo, do outdoors walks and stuff like minigolf etc.

This is a very good thing, and it's a joy to witness how they become friends.

What do YOU do for your fellow citizen may they be from another country?

Remember: Wherever you live, your ancestors at some point moved there due to hardship they were in in their old country. Are you denying the same right for other people now? If so: Will you accept that you then have to go home, too?

But where do we have to stop? If everybody actually stems from some spot in Africa, that would be a pretty crowded place, and as I understand, there is no DSL available, and baby oil is in short supply :1orglaugh


Addressing that point in bold.
Talking about immigration.
This thread was about New York right? Part of The United States.
So lets address immigration regarding The USA, ok?
Most whites there today are descendants of European immigrants, thats a fact.

Yeah the US had mass immigration from Europe in the past.
That is a very very different thing than whats happening today.

How you ask?
The mass Euro immigration began to move in full swing after The Civil War, right around the time of this thing called The Industrial Revolution.
Yeah before that there was immigration, mostly from Irish and a small amount of other groups, chinese ect.

Why did the US GOV allow so many immigrants, pre Civil War?
Was it because they hard big hearts?
No.
It was because they needed manpower, cheap labor to build the railroads, work in the mines, build the canals, work on the plantations, work in factories ect ect.
In other words the country needed them.
They used them.
They contributed, got nothing for free and became part of the country.
Assimilated.

After the Civil War, when The Industrial Revolution really took off, cities started growing in size and quantity many immigrants from all over Europe, Italians, Germans, Poles, ect ect began to immigrate to the country.
So why did THE GOV allow them in? Out of the kindness of their hearts?
No.
It was because they needed manpower, cheap but skilled labor to work in the factories, the mines, build the subways and streets, build the skyscrapers, build the whole damn country as we know it today.
And, fight in the wars.
Without these immigrants there is no way in hell The United States would have ever entered WWI, never mind win it.
Same goes for WWII.
They needed them to spill their blood.......for their agendas and plans.
And spill they did.
They became part of the country, got nothing for free and assimilated.

And for a long time the country had the highest standard of living ever in the world.
In the past , immigrants helped increase the standard of living for the country as a whole.
They were a benefit.

Now whats happening? Its obvious the country is on the decline, can't even argue that.
I believe one big reason is mass immigration.
Do we need most of these immigrants today?
The cold answer is no.
Mexicans, Africans, Arabs, Indians, Asians, and even Europeans.
THE COUNTRY DOES NOT NEED THEM IN THIS DAY AND AGE.
Do they contribute? Some yes, some no.
Do they get something for nothing? Yes, billions of dollars a year.
Do they assimilate? Many refuse to, instead they want and expect Americans to assimilate to their culture.
Cities are literally turning into 3rd world zones, and after the cities then the towns.

Is it a coincidence that this modern mass immigration is happening during a time when the standard of living in almost every aspect is declining or is it a cause?
Can anyone tell me one major benefit of allowing mass immigration 2011?
I can give you dozens of major detriments.

Final thought is it sucks that many of these immigrants who are flooding into the country these days come from counties that are so crappy.
But the cold hard truth is that if we continue to let so many in and do what we do for them then its just gonna make our country crappy too.
 

JayJohn85

Banned
It was because they needed manpower, cheap but skilled labor to work in the factories, the mines, build the subways and streets, build the skyscrapers, build the whole damn country as we know it today.

Bet if the bubble didn't burst due to the corporate fat cats most average american's wouldn't consider them jobs.
 

Hot Mega

I'm too lazy to set a usertitle.
Addressing that point in bold.
Talking about immigration.
This thread was about New York right? Part of The United States.
So lets address immigration regarding The USA, ok?
Most whites there today are descendants of European people, thats a fact.

Yeah the US had mass immigration from Europe in the past.
That is a very very different thing than whats happening today.

How you ask?
The mass Euro immigration began to move in full swing after The Civil War, right around the time of this thing called The Industrial Revolution.
Yeah before that there was immigration, mostly from Irish and a small amount of other groups, chinese ect.

Why did the US GOV allow so many immigrants, pre Civil War?
Was it because they hard big hearts?
No.
It was because they needed manpower, cheap labor to build the railroads, work in the mines, build the canals, work on the plantations, work in factories ect ect.
In other words the country needed them.
They used them.
They contributed, got nothing for free and became part of the country.
Assimilated.

After the Civil War, when The Industrial Revolution really took off, cities started growing in size and quantity many immigrants from all over Europe, Italians, Germans, Poles, ect ect began to immigrate to the country.
So why did THE GOV allow them in? Out of the kindness of their hearts?
No.
It was because they needed manpower, cheap but skilled labor to work in the factories, the mines, build the subways and streets, build the skyscrapers, build the whole damn country as we know it today.
And, fight in the wars.
Without these immigrants there is no way in hell The United States would have ever entered WWI, never mind win it.
Same goes for WWII.
They needed them to spill their blood.......for their agendas and plans.
And spill they did.
They became part of the country, got nothing for free and assimilated.

And for a long time the country had the highest standard of living ever in the world.

Now whats happening? Its obvious the country is on the decline, can't even argue that.
I believe one big reason is mass immigration.
Do we need most of these immigrants today?
The cold answer is no.
Mexicans, Africans, Arabs, Indians, Asians, and even Europeans.
THE COUNTRY DOES NOT NEED THEM IN THIS DAY AND AGE.
Do they contribute? Some yes, some no.
Do they get something for nothing? Yes, billions of dollars a year.
Do they assimilate? Many refuse to, instead they want and expect Americans to assimilate to their culture.
Cities are literally turning into 3rd world zones, and after the cities then the towns.

Is it a coincidence that this modern mass immigration is happening during a time when the standard of living in almost every aspect is declining or is it a cause?
Can anyone tell me one major benefit of allowing mass immigration 2011?
I can give you dozens of major detriments.

Final thought is it sucks that many of these immigrants who are flooding into the country these days come from counties that are so crappy.
But the cold hard truth is that if we continue to let so many in and do what we do for them then its just gonna make our country crappy too.

So we don't allow it now for 'cheap labor'? If not, someone needs to explain that to all the people who employ farm workers, construction workers, maids, cooks, etc. (and GWB who famously proclaim these people do jobs that 'Marrrcans won't).

You know meester....we wouldn't have an (illegal) immigration problem if people wouldn't hire them. Meaning, the demand is there for their 'cheap labor'.:2 cents::o
 

meesterperfect

Hiliary 2020
If anybody can refute anything I wrote in this thread then do it.
But don't give me this "I know you are but what am I " crap.

Answer the questions I asked or refute a fact.

And for all the pea brains who love to describe people like me as hateful.........Go shit in your hats. ( At least there's some hate, or at least dislike you can feed off of).

but to answer your question mega, yeah speaking specifically of mexicans.
yes, THE GOV allows them in............but we don't NEEED them.
That is the difference.
 
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