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Chinese Drywall

Atar554

Little Porn Lover
"This week on Need to Know, we team up with ProPublica to examine the harmful effects of tainted drywall manufactured in China, and the legal frustrations consumers encounter when trying to sue foreign manufacturers for damages. We follow one homeowner whose family abandoned their home because of tainted drywall, and see how she eventually took her case to Congress."

Pretty disturbing

Here's the story link

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/need-to-kno...lleged-ill-effects-from-chinese-drywall/8812/
 

Atar554

Little Porn Lover
im not buying it.

i believe no anti-china slander.

oo look a butterfly! *chases it*

I got it.

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Rey C.

Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
I built this house in 2006. About the time I joined this board, I thought I had some of that crap in my house. When I read the thread title, my blood pressure went up just like it did a couple of years ago as I was trying to get the facts of the matter. Turns out I didn't. But still... :mad: :flame: :crash:

To correct the problem, you basically have to rebuild your house (all the walls and ceilings have to come out) - and it's generally NOT covered by homeowner's insurance.

Poison pet food, lead paint on our kids' toys, contaminated drywall, the theft of intellectual property, currency manipulation... and we borrow money from them so that we can give it away in "our Godly mission to make the world safe for Democracy". They should rename this place the United Suckers of America. :facepalm:

BTW, does anyone here like shrimp? If you buy it in the grocery store, read the label and you'll probably find that it comes from Asia these days... and it's full of shit that you wouldn't feed your worst enemy. Real shame, cause I love shrimp. I stopped eating it last year though.
 

Atar554

Little Porn Lover
Apologies about the bloodpressure. Glad you didn't end up with any though; it's a case of letting the markets decide though. Curious as to how those who are totally pro market rationalize it; not that I'm for gov regulation or anything. Just that it's a massive failure they tend to gloss over.

As far as shrimp what can they put in the meat itself?

They're cleaned and frozen...well the ones I buy you still have to shell yourself.
 

TheOrangeCat

AFK..being taken to the vet to get neutered.
The problem with the shrimp from Asia is that they bulldoze mangrove swamps to make breedign ponds, but because they remove the oxygenating plant life and dam the natural water flows, they have to use industrial levels of powdered antibiotics to keep the shrimp from being destroyed by the increasingly biohazzardous water, polluted by tons of shrimp poo and corpses ... waste that would normally be dealt with by ... drum roll, the oxygenating and toxin removing mangroves
 

Atar554

Little Porn Lover
The problem with the shrimp from Asia is that they bulldoze mangrove swamps to make breedign ponds, but because they remove the oxygenating plant life and dam the natural water flows, they have to use industrial levels of powdered antibiotics to keep the shrimp from being destroyed by the increasingly biohazzardous water, polluted by tons of shrimp poo and corpses ... waste that would normally be dealt with by ... drum roll, the oxygenating and toxin removing mangroves

LMAO!

honestly though.

I just died inside.
 

squallumz

knows petras secret: she farted.
most shrimp come from india and the gulf of mexico if its farmed.

and let us not forget, american companies give the specs to the chinese companies who follow the sheet and use what they are told to use to manufacture what they were told.

when things are cheap, ugly, or toxic and say they are "made in china," dont forget that it was an american product the whole way through. its the labour that made it appealing, not the materials.


oh and expect years more of anti-chinese bs. chinas coming up and growing stronger everyday. its americas job to convince us they are evil.
 

Rey C.

Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
Orange Cat is correct. I just grabbed this from the first site I ran across. Type "dangers of Asian shrimp" into Google, Yahoo or Bing and you'll get many other sources.


Edit - from Wiki:

A shrimp farm is an aquaculture business for the cultivation of marine shrimp or prawns[1] for human consumption. Commercial shrimp farming began in the 1970s, and production grew steeply, particularly to match the market demands of the United States, Japan and Western Europe. The total global production of farmed shrimp reached more than 1.6 million tonnes in 2003, representing a value of nearly 9 billion U.S. dollars. About 75% of farmed shrimp is produced in Asia, in particular in China and Thailand. The other 25% is produced mainly in Latin America, where Brazil is the largest producer. The largest exporting nation is Thailand.
 

Atar554

Little Porn Lover
most shrimp come from india and the gulf of mexico if its farmed.

and let us not forget, american companies give the specs to the chinese companies who follow the sheet and use what they are told to use to manufacture what they were told.

when things are cheap, ugly, or toxic and say they are "made in china," dont forget that it was an american product the whole way through. its the labour that made it appealing, not the materials.

The only answer is to eat the grass of my front and back lawns.

At least I know how the hell it was grown.
 

squallumz

knows petras secret: she farted.
The only answer is to eat the grass of my front and back lawns.

At least I know how the hell it was grown.

there you go. my girl and i just planted 20 types of veggies for this season. we're gonna try to get off the grid of doom just a wee tiny bit.

fucking vegetables are expensive!


btw, when i used to be in commercial fishing, i saw lots of fun stuff. i used to help unload wild caught shrimp from the shrimpers sometimes too and they would be dipped in chemicals immediately. the chemicals help preserve them and impede spotting. youre damned if you do farmed, and damned if you find wild shrimp. its all fucking poison anyway.
 

Atar554

Little Porn Lover
there you go. my girl and i just planted 20 types of veggies for this season. we're gonna try to get off the grid of doom just a wee tiny bit.

fucking vegetables are expensive!

oddly I've got a source of cheap veggies at a market nearby me. A lot cheaper you find in any chain store.

I usually have a garden too and grown tomatoes, corn, beans, cucumbers etc.

Idk if I'll have the time for it this year but it's fun and healthy. Only thing that sucks is a lot of shit is worthless to grow from a money standpoint

it costs more to grow things like bell peppers, broccoli, lettuce etc then to just buy it even at inflated prices.
 

squallumz

knows petras secret: she farted.
you think? i dunno, we bought the cheap 20 cent seed bags and hand-tilled the ground and used 2 bags of $1.75 top soil.

we have an aquarium so we have free plaint food there. (plants love nitrogen).

if you clone your plants you can double the amount of plants and ur set.

and yes, ill consider the unfucking veggies next year. :ban them:
 

Will E Worm

Conspiracy...
Tainted Chinese Imports Common
In Four Months, FDA Refused 298 Shipments


Dried apples preserved with a cancer-causing chemical.

Frozen catfish laden with banned antibiotics.

Scallops and sardines coated with putrefying bacteria.

Mushrooms laced with illegal pesticides.

These were among the 107 food imports from China that the Food and Drug Administration detained at U.S. ports just last month, agency documents reveal, along with more than 1,000 shipments of tainted Chinese dietary supplements, toxic Chinese cosmetics and counterfeit Chinese medicines.

Article


China :nono:
 

Rey C.

Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
and let us not forget, american companies give the specs to the chinese companies who follow the sheet and use what they are told to use to manufacture what they were told.

And there's the rub: they're not always using what's on the bill of materials/build sheet. So that's the point: inferior/substandard substances, that cost less than what's called for, have been substituted in. When poison Chinese pet food was sold in the U.S., American distributors certainly weren't aware that people's beloved pets would die after ingesting it. Course, when a similar substance made its way into Chinese baby formula, they walked some of the offending execs to the wall and sent the bill for the bullets to their families, I suspect. As long as people don't cry too much about it, I have no problem with lining up the corporate executives who had anything to do with the funky drywall or lead painted toys.


when things are cheap, ugly, or toxic and say they are "made in china," dont forget that it was an american product the whole way through. its the labour that made it appealing, not the materials.

Not necessarily. If it's just an American company putting its brand on an item, it is not an "American product the whole way" by any means. And quite often, products made in China get subsidies from the government that American made goods do not/cannot get. I worked for a company that made engineered steel products. Not only did a Chinese competitor copy some of our designs, they also had a price advantage on materials, because the Chinese government helped them to purchase steel on the open market at a subsidized/discounted price. We petitioned the Bush administration for assistance and did get to take part in a congressional hearing. But Bush and his boys largely turned a blind eye to American companies that asked his people to file cases against China with the World Trade Organization. Their mandate that non-Chinese owned companies MUST export certain goods made in China is a violation in itself.


oh and expect years more of anti-chinese bs. chinas coming up and growing stronger everyday. its americas job to convince us they are evil.

I do not believe that the Chinese (as a people) are any more, or less, evil than we are. But China is controlled by a communist government which oversees a vast managed economy. While it is simply a fact that they employ trade practices which violate the law and various treaties, I wouldn't say that they are evil. Since ancient times, it has been the case that might makes right. And right now, they're pretty damn mighty. But evil? No. What I'm saying is that we've allowed ourselves to grow too weak to deal with them when they push the envelope or cross the line. That's the shameful part that bothers me.

I must give Obama credit for at least filing the cases that the Bush administration would not. But my fear is that it's just for show (for the unions here). IMO, it's too little too late.
 
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