Clever Anti-War Posters

[skechers]

Never said we were superior to animals.

We have the ability to be superior than nature, however. That's my point. True, maybe as a species, we aren't. True, we do more to fuck up the world than we do to save it. But human spirituality simply IS. I know it is, because I feel a part of it everyday. Now, on a whole, us folks is barbarians... raping, pillaging, ourselves, and our planet. Every person has that spirit I believe. And that's where morality comes from. Love and compassion, and the whys of it all. Unlike the animal, we can recognize, and we CAN work it out. Even if we aren't yet. Not all of us anyway.

Some of us are doing our best. Don't be so pessimistic, I beg you. You'll be happier, and that I can assure you. It may take some understanding... some forgiveness in other peoples faults.... don't believe all us pretentious artsy types like myself. It's a spectrum. And we're working with what we got the best we can, to do what we can in this one life. Same as you. I'm not saying you're being judgmental or nothing. I'm just talking about "in general". Making examples.

We have the ability to be better. Some of us are already doing what we can. There's just alot of people out there, and so there are alot of folks not willing to make the necessary changes. Sadly, I believe there's quite a few more of the latter than there are the former.

Yes, we do these things... these crafts for ourselves... and nature will have them back, when it wants them. But for now, we can enjoy them. And most people do, for the beauty of it. Do not deny human spirituality. You may condemn it if you absolutely must, but one simply cannot deny it. Not in any way convincing. Not for those of us who know. The religious... and the just plain spiritual.

Don't confuse society, in all it's error, with the workings of a confident, independent open mind. It's not that we can't make ourselves and our planet healthy. It's just that so many of us don't want to... or don't know how.... or are afraid to. Yes, we are at fault. But in a world like this, with so many evil things being done, who can blame us for being frightened.

The artsy stuff comes from that place in us we can't completely tie down. When bugs write composiums, I'll believe they have the understanding of spirituality. Until then, I'm not denying their spirit. I'm saying, they have no way of conciously grasping it... of turning it over in their minds... of looking up at the sky and wondering... Where as us as humans... at least we can reach for it.... even if we fall short of truly grasping it. That's part of what art is. Reaching.... Just reaching...


I believe we are able to do all these things you condemn us for not doing. But it's a hard road, and it takes work to change minds and hearts. I embrace my nature. Don't belive for a second that I don't. But it'll take morality, open minds, compassion.... to save us.

We have these things. We just need to use them. All of us.

 

[curiousWAN]

you are still talking about understanding, thinking and whatever. let's make this clear, what's spirituality or spirit?

if it is something that can be reach by logical thinking then it can't be anything different than logic itself. can you reach there questioning things, coming to conclusions, using boolean operators (and,or,if,then,else) ? and if that's how you reach there how it can be something different than a bunch of ideas?

what you believe is simply that i believe. you use logic all the way, you come to a series of conclusions you think universally correct or whatever and then all of a sudden you call the process or outcome as spirituality... it's just a freaking word. you almost expect me to gasp each time you say soul or spirituality or morals... that magic doesn't work on me, mythical words, alakazaams and abrakadabras...

you think you were never been a part of nature, when i say nature rules, you instantly divide the picture into two, putting animals and trees one side and yourself to other. you want to be precious, you can't be categorized with a stinky pig under same name. it doesn't matter what we can do, those things are still what nature gave us. can you go beyond insects and apes? sure. is it what nature all about? definitely not. nature doesn't mean green pastures, it's the whole universe.

can we do better? yeah, in theory or in your dreams. if there's a hint of peace and goodness in us, that's just for those who is around us. it's your usual gorilla behaviour. find allies, protect and get protected and when your gang strong enough go invade other gorilla tribes and don't leave a single banana for them. that's what history and today shows us and i just can't see for the things to change now.

 

[skechers]

you are still talking about understanding, thinking and whatever. let's make this clear, what's spirituality or spirit?

I belive spirit is the spark. If you ever have to watch someone die, and I hope you don't, friend, you can tell the exact moment when that spark isn't there inside the body anymore. The person stops being a person and becomes just a husk. A body. A shell. Void of spirit. You can litterally, and instantly NOTICE the abscence. They are there, a consciousness, and then suddenly, they are not. Science does not suffeciently explain this.

Thus, we come to "what is spirituality?" Spirituality is a mindset. A grasping at "what" we are. Most art, and the appreciation thereof comes from this same mindset. It's a desire to express, as a road to enlightenment in what we are, inside.

It's a move for that spark that we can't comprehend, so tangled up in the flesh, in the pysical, in the logical, as we are.


Now. Why I call these things belief....

if it is something that can be reach by logical thinking then it can't be anything different than logic itself. can you reach there questioning things, coming to conclusions, using boolean operators (and,or,if,then,else) ? and if that's how you reach there how it can be something different than a bunch of ideas?

So much of what you call science, nature, are theories as well. What can we do but speculate? When we really have no way of knowing. What I believe is all I have. And like I said before, I would rather be a fool with my own beliefs, than a blind follower of a fool and his beliefs. All I can do, all we can do, is believe what we each have, as according to our own feelings.

I'm not trying to convert you to my ideas. I'm merely citing my own views on the subject. These ideas, what I may call belief... What else is there, than other beliefs... other theories that aren't my own? No, I'll think for myself.

what you believe is simply that i believe. you use logic all the way, you come to a series of conclusions you think universally correct or whatever and then all of a sudden you call the process or outcome as spirituality... it's just a freaking word. you almost expect me to gasp each time you say soul or spirituality or morals... that magic doesn't work on me, mythical words, alakazaams and abrakadabras...

Spirituality is a word that means something to me. The word is the label, to a feeling that I feel. That makes it something more than JUST a word

I do believe these things to be universally correct. But don't worry. When I open my own church and start raving about my ideas, and condemning others for theirs... well, then you can worry.

I don't expect to blow your mind. If you could relate to how I feel, I'd be happy, but I'm not sad that you don't. I don't care. To each his own. But to deny me my credibility because you disagree would be as bad as me, opening that church and raving my raves.

You don't feel the magic, and that's cool. I do, and I pity you for not feeling it. There's no other feeling in the world, that feeling of creating from the heart. And no more interesting subject, I believe, than that of the human spirit.

you think you were never been a part of nature,

Not true.

when i say nature rules, you instantly divide the picture into two, putting animals and trees one side and yourself to other.

Simply not true.

Not at least in THAT context. I do not seperate myself from nature. I state a fact.... we are different from animals, because we have the ability to wonder... I am not against the birds and the bees. You, or anybody else. I am apart from them. Because I ask the whys and the hows.

you want to be precious, you can't be categorized with a stinky pig under same name. it doesn't matter what we can do, those things are still what nature gave us. can you go beyond insects and apes? sure. is it what nature all about? definitely not. nature doesn't mean green pastures, it's the whole universe.

Now who's shouting beliefs as facts?

Who's to say there is no god, and that god is this force we call nature, and that god speaks the brain that powers that heart that pumps the blood that fuels the body? It's something I consider. I just consider other things, at the same time. Yes, nature gave us these things. But, it also gave us free thought. Us, and only us. This is the point I'm trying to make.

The bible- many believe it to be true- says god gave us free will. Interesting concept then... this god as nature... or nature is god... and spirit is apart. Wait... is spirit the force? that powers it all?

Please, pay special attention to the question marks. The reaching for... the considering... the belief in wondering... but nothing set in stone. At least not in my mind. and that makes matters more interesting. The ideas change, as new thoughts are reached.

Through mediums such as spiritual introspection, logical thought, free thinking... and poetry, arts musics stuffs likes thats.

The last of the last of the smallest of the smallest particles, the ones we can't see... is it god... is it spirit... is that nature down there?

You ask me, what is spirit? I ask you now... what is nature? What is it really? Just these processes- These urges- These chemical reactions- that just happen? I ask you, could the spirit be powering nature?

Ahhh, but who's to say. And the scientists will prod. And so will the poets. We just go about it in different ways.

can we do better? yeah, in theory or in your dreams. if there's a hint of peace and goodness in us, that's just for those who is around us. it's your usual gorilla behaviour. find allies, protect and get protected and when your gang strong enough go invade other gorilla tribes and don't leave a single banana for them. that's what history and today shows us and i just can't see for the things to change now.

Then I say to you, some spirituality could do you good, dude. Some spirituality... some optimism... But I'm not trying to push my beliefs on you. Although, I will say I think I am happier in my beliefs than you are in yours, but... that's niether here nor there. You live your life. Believe. Your beliefs. Just keep considering. Think for yourself

Because what else do we have?

 

[curiousWAN]

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You ask me, what is spirit? I ask you now... what is nature? What is it really? Just these processes- These urges- These chemical reactions- that just happen? I ask you, could the spirit be powering nature?

is scholastic, i'm sorry. yeah, sure, then let's say spirit is what's powering nature. then what's powering spirit? you deceive yourself with a magic word and it's magic because it means nothing, it's totally empty, you can't perceive it, you can't feel it, you can't imagine it and since it's SO abstract it feels like an explanation, isn't it?

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I belive spirit is the spark.

is a totally off poetic metaphor. a spark is a spark and i'm sure there's nothing otherworldly about it. if a person just died and his/her eyes closed, can you understand it's a corpse now and see the "void of spirit" ? come on, i know you want to sound poetic and all positive and all literate but that's just impossible.

It's a move for that spark that we can't comprehend, so tangled up in the flesh, in the pysical, in the logical, as we are.

so you believe in things that you can't comprehend. how's that a human thing again? sounds like animals can do it too.

So much of what you call science, nature, are theories as well. What can we do but speculate? When we really have no way of knowing. What I believe is all I have. And like I said before, I would rather be a fool with my own beliefs, than a blind follower of a fool and his beliefs. All I can do, all we can do, is believe what we each have, as according to our own feelings.

most of them completely proven. and i never talk about quantum mechanics right? or black holes or time travel... i'm talking about hormons and brains and intestines and animals (including humans) and their proven behaviours to and against each other. i have fossil records here, t-rexes and stuff. in those fossil records we find first mammals definitely after dinosaurs and we find those dinosaurs after insect like stuff and we find the latter after plants.

http://home.honolulu.hawaii.edu/~pine/book1qts/embryo-compare.html

can't see any spirit above but mutations and evolution. show me a picture like this which shows god and please do me a favor and don't send flower pictures or a rainbow or some nasa pic... making a scholastic connection between god and the beautiful one, a priori.

Who's to say there is no god, and that god is this force we call nature, and that god speaks the brain that powers that heart that pumps the blood that fuels the body?

who's to say there are no flying pink elephants with two heads and five penises, living in the dark side of the moon? or if moon is too close, in the aldaberan, debeb, antares or outer belt of milky way or something. give me a little bit something other than "what ifs" science definitely gives me more than that.

look around the world. look in to the human history. people sacrifice virgin girls and boys for this shitty "god idea", some morons worshipped cows, some, believed scarabs (bugs) are holy, some thought world stands on a cows' horns, that's insane man.

if i can't answer everything, that's because i'm a worthless little dot in this universe. i can accept that. it's just fine. there's nothing holy about me or others. but some people think if they hold their breaths, and make sounds like ommmmm and then eat nothing for a week and i don't know... if they really try hard to imagine and try to connect with "something" and who knows what, they think they can answer everything i guess? and that answer is god? and spirit? try harder. and come up with something that is at least comprehendable. i just can't help it, this stupid brain of mine only understands comprehandable things...

comprehension
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Main Entry:
com·pre·hen·sion Listen to the pronunciation of comprehension
Pronunciation:
\ˌkäm-pri-ˈhen(t)-shən, -prē-\
Function:
noun
Etymology:
Middle French & Latin; Middle French, from Latin comprehension-, comprehensio, from comprehendere to understand, comprise
Date:
15th century

1 a: the act or action of grasping with the intellect : understanding b: knowledge gained by comprehending c: the capacity for understanding fully <mysteries that are beyond our comprehension>2 a: the act or process of comprising b: the faculty or capability of including : comprehensiveness3: connotation 3

 

[skechers]

You only believe what you can see?

I think your argument is floundering now.

I'm telling you. I watched a very close relative die. I held his hand as he went. And there is a visible change that happens in the body. They no longer look like living things when there is no spirit, no spark left. They don't look like persons anymore. They look fake. Like mannaquins. I watched this happen. I see. I believe.

What's powering spirit? See! Now you're doing it! You're asking questions, instead of just believing something you heard! You're thinking for yourself now, and that's step one. I'm proud of you man

Stop throwing the fact that I'm a poet back into my face. I've said it time and time again. This is not poetry. I'm not trying to be poetic. I'm trying to speak the thoughts that I have as clearly as I can.

Animals don't ponder the deeper questions. To even suggest they do is ludacris.

I don't understand what you're getting at with the picture there? Because you can't see the spirit in a scientific sketch, it is completely disproven? Come on. You can't even disprove me with your own thoughts now? You have to toss this pic around to (somehow) substansiate your argument? I don't understand what you're trying to show me.

Things evolve. No spirit. Tadaaaa. I could spend hours showing you art and why I believe this proves the existance of human spirit. But what good would it do. Your mind is closed to even the POSSIBILITY that you have it wrong. That maybe, there's something deeper than what you can imagine.

And you make these silly points, like there's no god, there's no pink flying elephant mwahaha... But you don't get it. You can't allow yourself to get it. I feel like you live an uninteresting life. I don't mean that as an insult. Just an observation.

Science may give you answers to hows. But never really whys. Beliefs of scientists... beliefs of spiritualists... Which are better? Which more credible?

I could care less. As I have had to say, time and time again. I. Think. For. My. Self. If I take a spiritual response to a question you present me in a logical fashion, of course you'd think me daft. But you wouldn't stop to consider. And I'd think you shallow.

You keep coming back to that. Your biggest argument against human spirit is the fact that we have done horrible, horrible things throughout history. Yet you never stop to think about the good we do.

And you keep telling me I should feel worthless. Why is that? Because I feel like I mean something... why must you keep trying to discount that... just because you feel like an insignificant dot?

I don't think you should....

It's not that you only understand "comprehendable things" It's that you only choose to understand what other's can support. What good does that do?

Maybe that's why you feel unimportant. You don't have thoughts of your own.

 

[curiousWAN]

I'm telling you. I watched a very close relative die. I held his hand as he went. And there is a visible change that happens in the body. They no longer look like living things when there is no spirit, no spark left. They don't look like persons anymore. They look fake. Like mannaquins. I watched this happen. I see. I believe.

that means nothing to me, really. not to disrespect your passed away relative but to the way you perceive things. when you know he/she is dead, you know he/she is dead. and of course he is not a living being now. whats more obvious than that? they look fake? oh my gawd. i REALLY don't know how to reply you back sometimes cause your metaphors are cheap, off, irrelevant, i don't want to say more really.

like scarecrows, like biscuitmans, like... paperdolls, like, where's my relative who put this thing in my arms... you can accept what is what, which is what i'm doing, and when someone is dead, you can simply know, he/she is just dead, a corpse. bury or burn her/him then. it was something when it was living but it is nothing but rotting flesh now. i'm an atheist. i don't "believe" anything. believing in science, like, accepting something as truth, if it is coming from nasa, for example, is how far my beliefs goes. you can't freaking compare that to spirits and sparks and will o wisps and werewolves.

and good thing about believing in science is, you believe everything only temporarily. that's what is science. every single day, it gets better and better and much more understandable and much more detailed... what about your god? juuuust chilling with his niggas in the clouds as usual i'm guessing? lol.

Animals don't ponder the deeper questions. To even suggest they do is ludacris.

so you can ponder without comprehending things, is that what i should think in the end?

I could spend hours showing you art and why I believe this proves the existance of human spirit.

no any art is a proof of any spirit. for you, a spiritless human should live like a zombie or pig, he shouldn't have deep thoughts, he can't love, he can't create a damn thing etc. for me, you don't need a spirit for those things. it's all about the brains. simple as that. you are telling me it's no proof for unexistence of spirits, that picture i posted. but what you feel for your relative is?.........

you dematerialize a part of us, and call it spirit. x, y and z things can't be done without spirit. but you have no reason or whatsoever to do so. you just keep pumping your ego up.

And you make these silly points, like there's no god, there's no pink flying elephant mwahaha...

you should listen to yourself. my points are silly because they are variations of yours. bwahahah and zuahahaha. i make silly points especially to show how silly are yours. you even go say things about my life... i'm free, there are no moral rules or whatever limiting me, i'm the laziest, the most hedonistic person you can ever know. i just don't need spirits for some crazy reason you do...

Your biggest argument against human spirit is the fact that we have done horrible, horrible things throughout history. Yet you never stop to think about the good we do.

i said what people believed until this point. as you suggest, they thought like "what if" and they wanted to live forever and happily and they were afraid of dying so just like you they figured a shortcut to immortality.... believing scarabs are holy can't be considered "horrible, horrible" i guess? but it's definitely as stupid as it gets, as baseless as it gets...

and i'm bored... you even ask stuff like this;

Science may give you answers to hows. But never really whys. Beliefs of scientists... beliefs of spiritualists... Which are better? Which more credible?

science gives A LOT of whys. but you can keep asking why for anything forever. why, and why is that, and why is that, and why is that..... science doing all it can, and it answered 99999999.999999.9999 whys like that.... what your god answered?

geez. i'm really done now.

 

[Facial_King]

Animals don't ponder the deeper questions. To even suggest they do is ludacris.

[I love how the spelling for that word has apparently changed to follow the spelling of the rapper's name. :1orglaugh

This isn't an anti-rap thing, I just think it's kind of lame to have language change because of how some celeb writes it (and actually, I'd bet that either he (the rapper) and/or at least one of his agents knew that it was a misspelling!).

Back in the good ol' days, we spelled it l-u-d-i-c-r-o-u-s.]

 

[bustybbwlover]

which definition of nihilism?
–noun
1. total rejection of established laws and institutions.
2. anarchy, terrorism, or other revolutionary activity.
3. total and absolute destructiveness, esp. toward the world at large and including oneself: the power-mad nihilism that marked Hitler's last years.
4. Philosophy.
a. an extreme form of skepticism: the denial of all real existence or the possibility of an objective basis for truth.
b. nothingness or nonexistence.
5. (sometimes initial capital letter) the principles of a Russian revolutionary group, active in the latter half of the 19th century, holding that existing social and political institutions must be destroyed in order to clear the way for a new state of society and employing extreme measures, including terrorism and assassination.
6. annihilation of the self, or the individual consciousness, esp. as an aspect of mystical experience.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/nihilism

 

[curiousWAN]

take advantage of people, have no empathy or whatsoever, just do the things most profitable and do it at all cost- human life, destruction of nature etc.

that's how i used nihilism here.

 

[skechers]

that means nothing to me, really. not to disrespect your passed away relative but to the way you perceive things. when you know he/she is dead, you know he/she is dead. and of course he is not a living being now. whats more obvious than that? they look fake? oh my gawd. i REALLY don't know how to reply you back sometimes cause your metaphors are cheap, off, irrelevant, i don't want to say more really.

I could tell the exact moment he died- the very second- simply by the way he looked. It wasn't like he was hooked into a heart monitor, and flatlined and everybody stopped and listened to the buzz, and watched the little green blips on a screen, and we all knew he was dead. And it wasn't as if he just stopped breathing, because his breathing had been sporadic a long time before he went.

There was a change in his appearance, a visible change. This, I will swear to. It wasn't something imagined. It was as apparent as the computer screen I'm looking at now.

I watched him go (no I couldn't see the spirit leaving, but I could see that it had left) someone said, "I think he's passed." We all could tell. The nurse checked, and sure enough, he was dead.

Now you can go about disclaiming my thought processes as being cheap, poetic nonsense. Know that I'm not dressing it up, but writing down thoughts exactly as they form. So, to say that my descriptions and examples are irrelavent simply because, what?- they're expressed some way other than bland and dry?- is far beyond unfair.

like scarecrows, like biscuitmans, like... paperdolls, like, where's my relative who put this thing in my arms... you can accept what is what, which is what i'm doing, and when someone is dead, you can simply know, he/she is just dead, a corpse. bury or burn her/him then. it was something when it was living but it is nothing but rotting flesh now. i'm an atheist. i don't "believe" anything. believing in science, like, accepting something as truth, if it is coming from nasa, for example, is how far my beliefs goes. you can't freaking compare that to spirits and sparks and will o wisps and werewolves.?

Science, and this is what you must understand, does not deny the spirit. They just... do not know. They use words like "phenomenon" for things that happen- again, like your placebo effect- that they do not understand. This isn't a bookmark... a stop to say, wait. We'll get back to it. Because there's no meter to measure the thing that makes us conscious. Yes, we can tell if the body is working. We can look at scans and see If brain synapses are firing, and even what part of the brain is working, and what that part of the brain is supposed to annalyse and decode. But, what WE are... where the emotion COMES from- what the concious state of "I AM" is, how it works, where it comes from... where it goes.... Science cannot tell you.

And that is what spiritual introspection is for. To offer questions, to lead to paths that deal with the aspects of existance that science can not.

You seem to think I am trying to discredit the pracices of science. I am not. I believe most of what is documented. Not to do so would be horribly ignorant. The problem with science though, is it simply cannot answer everything.

And this is why, forgive me, pure athiesm seems as ignorant to me. It's as if saying, well, people out there have not been able to tell me about a spirit, and so I choose to close my mind off to the possibility of one.

You must understand, I believe science is good, and mostly right (though has caused about as much trouble in the world as any religion- as science grows as a creative force, conversely, it grows as a destructive one as well) but not complete. It simply does not deal with the ephemeral. And I can feel the ephemeral all around me.

You could too, my friend. If you would but allow yourself to. Just open yourself up to the possibility that there is a mystery beyond science, and that there's nothing wrong with that. Science, in general, does not deny the existance of a human spirit. So far, the best that they can do is "we simply cannot tell, based on the facts..." So what's wrong with dealing with it, inside yourself, personally.

As you would deal with any thought. Ponder, and question, and speculate. And forever be intrigued, even when simply idle... motionless. doing nothing but breathing... you could be, in the moment, enthralled by some revelation of the soul.

And even if that revelation is only true for you... it's true. That's the mystery, which you seem to not understand. Why? Because there is no machine to graph it? No outward information to be graphed? So what?

Science does not deny the spirit, I say again. Science cannot confirm it. but it cannot deny it.

and good thing about believing in science is, you believe everything only temporarily. that's what is science. every single day, it gets better and better and much more understandable and much more detailed... what about your god? juuuust chilling with his niggas in the clouds as usual i'm guessing? lol

So how is science any more exact than spirituality? You simply believe what is incorrect... until more information is made available... and then you believe that... even if it is incorrect... Information is always changing as data is uncovered and credible (or incredible) theories are made. To be either confirmed or denied...

This is the same process I go through every day, soul searching.

so you can ponder without comprehending things, is that what i should think in the end?

You don't always come to a set conclusion. Does not mean you do not comprehend. The reaching for, the striving, is valuable in and of itself. It's inriching. to the body and mind.

no any art is a proof of any spirit. for you, a spiritless human should live like a zombie or pig, he shouldn't have deep thoughts, he can't love, he can't create a damn thing etc. for me, you don't need a spirit for those things. it's all about the brains. simple as that. you are telling me it's no proof for unexistence of spirits, that picture i posted. but what you feel for your relative is?.........

you dematerialize a part of us, and call it spirit. x, y and z things can't be done without spirit. but you have no reason or whatsoever to do so. you just keep pumping your ego up.

A spiritless ANY creature... sounds like a dead creature to me. You believe you- everyone... every living being... is spiritless. Tell me, how is this any more credible than my claims of bodies as vehicles for spirits?

But I see the point you are making. The creative part of the human mind... is controlled in the mind... but powered by the spirit. The emotion. We know that there are parts of the brain that HANDLE emotion... they do not create emotion, these brain parts. They decode it, for your brain to understand, but.... where do these emotions come from? What is consciousness? Not the definition of... but the state of. It isn't just a brain. All a brain does is decode, understand, file, control body functions... but it is not life... merely a tool FOR life.

And I don't need to pump up my ego. I'm comfortable with my stand. Confident. I think this is alot of what provokes you. My self assurance. I'm not tripping on me. The ego plays no part in it. I've made peace with that part of myself long ago.

you should listen to yourself. my points are silly because they are variations of yours. bwahahah and zuahahaha. i make silly points especially to show how silly are yours. you even go say things about my life... i'm free, there are no moral rules or whatever limiting me, i'm the laziest, the most hedonistic person you can ever know. i just don't need spirits for some crazy reason you do....

Why make silly points at all, if what I say is so far fetched to you? Why not take the logicians route, of trying to default my rebuttles with rational, rock hard statements of fact?

I've asked questions you've chosen to ignore, because science- logic- does not provide you with an answer. Why not think for yourself? Why not ponder the question. I garuntee you, just because a scientist is a scientist... a person who unearths and studies facts... just because this is what he or she is, does not make him or her void of the ability to search and study the soul, in his or her own unique way. Just to deny yourself that... to deny yourself the very PROCESS OF... Why?

It isn't "some crazy reason", why I talk about the spirit so ferverently. It is the fact that it is fulfilling, selfish, indulgent thought... that provides nothing but enrichment. Sounds hedonistic to me, but not in the common sense.... it's gluttony of inner self.

i said what people believed until this point. as you suggest, they thought like "what if" and they wanted to live forever and happily and they were afraid of dying so just like you they figured a shortcut to immortality.... believing scarabs are holy can't be considered "horrible, horrible" i guess? but it's definitely as stupid as it gets, as baseless as it gets...

There you go again! "No one has proven or disproven these things. There is nothing to be studied, graphed, pinned to a board and dissected, so.... it's baseless, and stupid!"

science gives A LOT of whys. but you can keep asking why for anything forever. why, and why is that, and why is that, and why is that..... science doing all it can, and it answered 99999999.999999.9999 whys like that.... what your god answered?

:rofl: But is that not what science IS?!! The constant questioning... that would lead to an answer? Isn't that what science is ALL ABOUT? Hahah. To me, you're starting to say things like "I'm bored" and "I'm done" not because you do not feel strongly about the things I am addressing, but because your argument is running out of steam. You contradict yourself... you ignore the points i'm trying to make, and pick up on the few easy things I say that you seem to think you CAN address. ...and even then, you struggle.

Why? Why is it so hard to believe in a spirit? When you believe there isn't one? there are as many facts solidly for the spirit as there are against it....

NONE.

nothing solid, either way. So, in your sceintific mind, why is denial better than... even questioning?

Science has about 0.1 percent of existance down on paper for you to see, in big-picture terms.... Science is doing the best it can. So are the spiritualists, coming in where science stops. We can continue to do so, until there is proof either way.

What my god answered? Just a moment. I used religion as an example to make a point. I never said I believed in a god. I simply do not throw out the possibility.

Look, you can't know- CAN'T- until you die. But the thinking about, and the asking about... that's the journey. The most important part. Unlike science, the idea isn't to come up with a widely accepted answer. Just... possibilities.

And as we reach and strive and ask, we work the creative parts of ourselves. And so we create and we craft. We make music and art, and the musics and the arts stimulate the spirit and the process repeats its self and feeds on its self. The state of inlightenment is a subjective thing. And only you can tell when you have reached your enlightened mind, no one else.

I believe

geez. i'm really done now.

I'm not. Introspection is something you should never be "done" with. I'll stop introspecting when I no longer have an outro-self.

What say you?

 

[skechers]

[I love how the spelling for that word has apparently changed to follow the spelling of the rapper's name. :1orglaugh

This isn't an anti-rap thing, I just think it's kind of lame to have language change because of how some celeb writes it (and actually, I'd bet that either he (the rapper) and/or at least one of his agents knew that it was a misspelling!).

Back in the good ol' days, we spelled it l-u-d-i-c-r-o-u-s.]

Yeah, I'm not spell checking or anything.

Funny how that happened. I'm not a fan or anything, but he is a common name in mainstream music. I never even stopped to think if my grammer was right or wrong. lol.

 

[Elwood70]

[I love how the spelling for that word has apparently changed to follow the spelling of the rapper's name. :1orglaugh

This isn't an anti-rap thing, I just think it's kind of lame to have language change because of how some celeb writes it (and actually, I'd bet that either he (the rapper) and/or at least one of his agents knew that it was a misspelling!).

Back in the good ol' days, we spelled it l-u-d-i-c-r-o-u-s.]

I'm sure he did,considering the fact that his real name is Christopher ....

The deliberate name-changes and misspellings annoy me as well,unless they're clever.

In his case,it is.