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Climate change and the political ideologies

assari

God damn it, Baconsalt!
Liberals argue that the climate has warmed, conservatives deny this and the greens do not care anymore to talk about this topic.
 

Johan

I'm too lazy to set a usertitle.
About 95% of the scientific community agrees that global warming is real and man-made but the medias continue to give the same air time to these 95% and to the remaining 5% (Except Fox News who gives about 80% to these 5%).
 

Ace Boobtoucher

Founder and Captain of the Douchepatrol
Meanwhile, everyone agrees asshead is retarded. And that is the most important question. You suck. Your threads suck. Every time you start a new thread my dog drags her ass across the living room carpet. Eat a bag of dicks.
 

assari

God damn it, Baconsalt!
About 95% of the scientific community agrees that global warming is real and man-made but the medias continue to give the same air time to these 95% and to the remaining 5% (Except Fox News who gives about 80% to these 5%).


Ok, but why the conservatives want to deny this issue?
 

Lee Van Queef

Maybe I Should Get A Little High First
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"Never let a buncha meat browners tell you how to adjust the thermostat."
 

Johan

I'm too lazy to set a usertitle.
Ok, but why the conservatives want to deny this issue?
Oil companies such as Exxon are among the biggest funders of the GOP

One thing that foreigners should know about US politics is that parties are funded by corporations, lobbies and rich people so everytime you wonder why a party or a politician wants to do anything, you gotta ask yourself who will benefit of it.
 
It's only science funded by the Climate Agenda which 'confirms' global warming, sounds like a scam to me, especially when you look at the taxes they're looking to put in place
 

Rey C.

Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
In my business and personal life, I try to make my decisions based on data. And even though this is not a topic that is really near & dear to my heart (because there's nothing I can really do about it one way or the other), this is what the data shows:

According to NOAA scientists, the globally averaged temperature over land and ocean surfaces for June 2014 was the highest for June since record keeping began in 1880. It also marked the 38th consecutive June and 352nd consecutive month with a global temperature above the 20th century average. The last below-average global temperature for June was in 1976 and the last below-average global temperature for any month was February 1985.

So there's no doubt that there is climate/temperature change. There can be no argument or debate about that. The only issue of debate, IMO, is what the cause or contributing factors may be. There has been climate change since Day 1 of the earth's existence. But is what we are experiencing now being affected by any actions of mankind or is it more of a natural occurrence? If mankind is providing a contribution, how much (% wise -> 0% to 100%) is it? To me, those are some of the valid questions. There is this fact (as proved by data) and there are various theories, which claim to explain (or not) that fact.

Claiming that climate change doesn't exist or that it's mostly or purely man-made are equally foolish positions, IMO. The truth (as is usually the case) is probably somewhere in between.
 

Johan

I'm too lazy to set a usertitle.
Global warming is happening is '10 times faster than at any time in the Earth's history', climate experts claim

- American scientists said if temperatures keep rising at the current rapid pace, significant stress will be places on terrestrial ecosystems
- Animals face needing to move toward the poles or higher in the mountains by at least one kilometre a year, the study claims
- Climatologists at Stanford Woods Institute for the Environment believe extreme weather events are expected to become more severe and frequent



American scientists claim the planet is undergoing one of the largest changes in climate in the past 65 million years.
Climatologists at Stanford Woods Institute for the Environment have warned the likely rate of change over the next century will be at least 10 times quicker than any climate shift since the dinosaurs became extinct. If the trend continues at its current rapid pace, it will place significant stress on terrestrial ecosystems around the world, and many species will need to make behavioral, evolutionary or geographic adaptations to survive, they said.
The findings come from a review of climate research by Earth system science expert Noah Diffenbaugh and Chris Field, a professor of environmental Earth system science and the director of the Department of Global Ecology at the Institution. The work is part of a special report on climate change in the current issue of Science.

However, the research is part of a much bigger picture and other scientists have recently claimed that global warming has 'paused' for the time being.
The professors in this latest study reviewed scientific literature on aspects of climate change that can affect ecosystems, and investigated how recent observations and projections for the next century compare to past events in Earth's history. For instance, the planet experienced a sharp rise in temperature by 5 degree Celsius 20,000 years ago, as Earth emerged from the last ice age. This is a change comparable to the high-end of the projections for warming over the 20th and 21st centuries, according to the researchers.

The geologic record shows that, 20,000 years ago, as the ice sheet that covered much of North America receded northward, plants and animals recolonised areas that had been under ice.
As the climate continued to warm, those plants and animals moved northward, to cooler climes.
Professor Diffenbaugh said: 'We know from past changes that ecosystems have responded to a few degrees of global temperature change over thousands of years. But the unprecedented trajectory that we're on now is forcing that change to occur over decades. That's orders of magnitude faster, and we're already seeing that some species are challenged by that rate of change.'


Some of the strongest evidence for how the global climate system responds to high levels of carbon dioxide comes from paleoclimate studies.
55 million years ago, carbon dioxide in the atmosphere was elevated to a level comparable to today, the scientists said. The Arctic Ocean did not have ice in the summer and nearby land was warm enough to support alligators and palm trees. 'There are two key differences for ecosystems in the coming decades compared with the geologic past, Professor Diffenbaugh said. One is the rapid pace of modern climate change. The other is that today there are multiple human stressors that were not present 55 million years ago, such as urbanisation and air and water pollution.'

The professors also examined results from two-dozen climate models to describe possible climate outcomes from present day to the end of the century.
In general, extreme weather events, such as heat waves and heavy rainfall, are expected to become more severe and more frequent. For example, the researchers said that, with continued emissions of greenhouse gases at the high end of the scenarios, annual temperatures over North America, Europe and East Asia will increase by two to four degrees Celsius between 2046 and 2065. With that amount of warming, the hottest summer of the last 20 years is expected to occur every other year, or even more frequently.
The scientists claim that by the end of the century, should the current emissions of greenhouse gases remain unchecked, temperatures over the northern hemisphere will be five to six degrees Celcius warmer than today's averages.

Diffenbaugh said: 'It's not easy to intuit the exact impact from annual temperatures warming by six [degrees Celsius]. This would present a novel climate for most land areas. Given the impacts those kinds of seasons currently have on terrestrial forests, agriculture and human health, we'll likely see substantial stress from severely hot conditions.'
The scientists also projected the velocity of climate change, defined as the distance per year that species of plants and animals would need to migrate to live in annual temperatures similar to current conditions. Around the world, including much of the United States, species face the need to move toward the poles or higher in the mountains by at least one kilometer per year.



A DIFFERENT VIEW

Scientists from the Met Office take a different view when it comes to the future of our planet . They have claimed global warming has 'paused' but this is not unexpected and temperatures will still continue to rise.

Heat going into the deep ocean is part of the reason global average surface temperatures have increased at a lower rate in the past 10 to 15 years than in previous decades, they explained. Recent low solar activity and volcanic eruptions, which send particles into the atmosphere that reflect heat, have also contributed to a slowing in temperature rises, while natural climate variations also play a part.
But experts and climate scientists believe global warming has not stopped but paused - with the average rate of warming just 0.04C per decade between 1998 and 2012, compared with 0.17C per decade from 1970-1998.

The scientists said periods of slow-down or 'pauses' in surface warming are not unusual in temperature records and are predicted in climate models, which suggests such periods could occur at least twice a century because of natural variation.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...ime-Earths-history-climate-experts-claim.html



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Ace Boobtoucher

Founder and Captain of the Douchepatrol
In my business and personal life, I try to make my decisions based on data. And even though this is not a topic that is really near & dear to my heart (because there's nothing I can really do about it one way or the other), this is what the data shows:

According to NOAA scientists, the globally averaged temperature over land and ocean surfaces for June 2014 was the highest for June since record keeping began in 1880. It also marked the 38th consecutive June and 352nd consecutive month with a global temperature above the 20th century average. The last below-average global temperature for June was in 1976 and the last below-average global temperature for any month was February 1985.

So there's no doubt that there is climate/temperature change. There can be no argument or debate about that. The only issue of debate, IMO, is what the cause or contributing factors may be. There has been climate change since Day 1 of the earth's existence. But is what we are experiencing now being affected by any actions of mankind or is it more of a natural occurrence? If mankind is providing a contribution, how much (% wise -> 0% to 100%) is it? To me, those are some of the valid questions. There is this fact (as proved by data) and there are various theories, which claim to explain (or not) that fact.

Claiming that climate change doesn't exist or that it's mostly or purely man-made are equally foolish positions, IMO. The truth (as is usually the case) is probably somewhere in between.

NOAA: This June was the hottest June on record; Actual data: yeah, not so much

http://www.tpnn.com/2014/04/04/weat...bal-warming-worst-distortion-of-science-ever/
 

Johan

I'm too lazy to set a usertitle.
John Coleman is a former TV anchor, he a 0 credibility on wether or not Global Warmoing is real and wether or not it is man made since he's not an expert, not a scientist, not even a journalist.
When it comes to global warming, I trust scientist, climatologists, people who dedicated their lives to study climate, rather than people moving their arms in front of a green screen and reading a teleprompter
 

Ace Boobtoucher

Founder and Captain of the Douchepatrol
I’m not a climate scientist. But as logic should dictate to any objective person, the science isn’t settled.

The projections were wrong. And while climate scientists scramble to find excuses as to why they were wrong, the fact that they were wrong is indisputable. This leads to the logical question: If the alarmists were so blatantly wrong about their predictions, why would we trust their excuses?

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/08/...ing-for-17-years-10-months/?utm_source=co2hog
 
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