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Debt Limit: The Mother of All No-Brainers

Hot Mega

I'm too lazy to set a usertitle.
This from a 'conservative' commentator...

If the Republican Party were a normal party, it would take advantage of this amazing moment. It is being offered the deal of the century: trillions of dollars in spending cuts in exchange for a few hundred billion dollars of revenue increases.

A normal Republican Party would seize the opportunity to put a long-term limit on the growth of government. It would seize the opportunity to put the country on a sound fiscal footing. It would seize the opportunity to do these things without putting any real crimp in economic growth.

The party is not being asked to raise marginal tax rates in a way that might pervert incentives. On the contrary, Republicans are merely being asked to close loopholes and eliminate tax expenditures that are themselves distortionary.

This, as I say, is the mother of all no-brainers.

But we can have no confidence that the Republicans will seize this opportunity. That’s because the Republican Party may no longer be a normal party. Over the past few years, it has been infected by a faction that is more of a psychological protest than a practical, governing alternative.

Let the bashing and disowning begin at link....
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/05/opinion/05brooks.html?_r=1&ref=opinion
 

ragincaucasian

I don't think the G-spot exists!
I'm dumbfounded that a GOP branch, just one individual, isn't seizing on some type of populist movement FOR THE PEOPLE. Lord knows this charlatanism would work in an economy as depressed and chaotic as it is. Yet, NO ONE is going to stray from the corporate enabling talking points and continue to serve AGAINST the interests of labor / consumers.
 

Hot Mega

I'm too lazy to set a usertitle.
I'm dumbfounded that a GOP branch, just one individual, isn't seizing on some type of populist movement FOR THE PEOPLE. Lord knows this charlatanism would work in an economy as depressed and chaotic as it is. Yet, NO ONE is going to stray from the corporate enabling talking points and continue to serve AGAINST the interests of labor / consumers.

Answer:

'That’s because the Republican Party may no longer be a normal party. Over the past few years, it has been infected by a faction that is more of a psychological protest than a practical, governing alternative.'

Translation: A bunch of ends justify means zealots that have no problem wagering any risk or circumstance for the mere sake of beating their opponent.
 

Hot Mega

I'm too lazy to set a usertitle.
A Government of the corporation, by the corporation, for the corporation, shall perish from the Earth

Stan...you're just a product of the microwave generation. Those tax cuts just need another 10 years to bear fruit...:rolleyes: (If hoarding is the idea.....)
 

Hot Mega

I'm too lazy to set a usertitle.
Obama has been accused of 'looking to Reagan'...:rofl2: Uh, yeah. To try and see if he can squeeze a modicum of consistency out of the party he belonged to.

Nonetheless, Obama does have his own consistency challenges on the subject of the debt ceiling.

As a budget compromise between the parties remains elusive, Democrats are turning to a conservative icon to guide the way to a debt-ceiling increase.

President Obama and Democrats in Congress have begun pointing out that President Ronald Reagan pushed to raise the debt ceiling nearly twenty times during his presidency.

"Ronald Reagan worked with [Democratic Speaker] Tip O’Neill and Democrats to cut spending, raise revenues and reform Social Security," Obama said Saturday in his weekly address, noting that "that kind of cooperation should be the least you expect from us."

In press conferences, floor speeches, and interviews recently, Democrats have cited Reagan's support for raising the debt ceiling in arguing to raise the debt ceiling now.

As the Aug. 2 deadline nears, after which the Treasury Department projects the U.S. economy will default, both sides have dug in to their negotiating positions. Republicans say they will not raise taxes, and Democrats say they will not slash benefits for the neediest Americans.

Some conservative Republicans have challenged the need to raise the debt ceiling at all, saying the Obama administration is using scare tactics in order to continue its liberal spending policies.

Democrats seem to believe that invoking Reagan could outflank that argument. Noting that conservatives' favorite president in the of the 20th century voted to increase the debt ceiling takes the argument beyond today's political lines and puts it in historical context.

"Ronald Reagan was a strong conservative. But Ronald Reagan said that there were important times for compromise for the good of the country," Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.), the ranking Democrat on the House Budget Committee, said at the Capitol on Friday. "The debt ceiling was raised 17 times when Ronald Reagan was president, and as Alan Simpson – former Sen. Simpson said – that when push came to shove, Reagan agreed 11 times to packages that included revenue for the good of the country, for the good of compromise."

In particular, Democrats note that in 1983 Reagan sent a letter to Howard H. Baker (R-Tenn.), the Senate majority leader at the time, calling for his support in raising the debt ceiling.

"This letter is to ask for your help and support, and that of your colleagues, in the passage of an increase in the limit on the public debt," Reagan's letter to Baker began.

"Henceforth, the Treasury Department cannot guarantee that the Federal Government will have sufficient cash on any one day to meet all of its mandated expenses, and thus the United States could be forced to default on its obligations for the first time in its history," Reagan wrote.

In a speech on the Senate floor last week, Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) mentioned Reagan's letter while calling for a debt ceiling increase.

On Friday Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), who has been a participant in closed meetings with Obama, Vice President Biden, and the Congressional leadership on raising the debt ceiling, made a similar statement.

"President Ronald Reagan increased the debt ceiling eighteen times in eight years," Durbin said on a local Chicago Fox TV affiliate Friday morning, although Reagan increased the debt ceiling only seventeen times. "Never once did we face this economic crisis with the threat that perhaps we wouldn't extend the debt ceiling."

At a press conference on Wednesday, Rep. Donna Edwards (D-Md.) said that under Reagan the limit was increased "without controversy."

"And it was done 17 times, I think, under President Reagan without controversy, and so I continue to look forward to the leadership of the president to make sure that we meet our full faith and credit of the United States and our obligations by raising the debt ceiling," Edwards said.

White House press secretary Jay Carney cited the Great Communicator in arguing that it is mutual sacrifice that is needed to end the current stalemate.

"Ronald Reagan – who is admired widely by many Americans, but in particular Republicans, who admire him as somebody who was serious about cutting spending and reducing taxes and getting control of deficits – was willing to work with the Democratic Speaker of the House and accept that he wasn’t going to get everything he wanted, and in fact recognized that if he insisted on his maximalist position he wouldn’t get anything at all," Carney said Thursday.

But putting the debt-ceiling debate in a historical context could be a dangerous game for Democrats. As many Republicans have noted, top Democrats, including President Obama when he was a senator, voted against raising the debt ceiling during the Bush administration.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/171871-democrats-cite-reagan-in-arguing-for-debt-ceiling-increase
 
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