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[member5726]

Yes and does this mean that the canadian economy is at its best? I don't think so.
Trying to please everybody doesn't mean always to take the good decisions.
Republicans doing whatever they want? :1orglaugh You are far away from the reality.

Are you saying that the american economy is doing better than the canadian economy ? :eek: Come on Georges get real please...

 

[georges]

Are you saying that the american economy is doing better than the canadian economy ? :eek: Come on Georges get real please...

please get real:yesyes:. How much is the gdp of Canada? How much is the unemployment rate? Chretien and the others haven't made things better.

 

[McRocket]

1) Did you ever heard of Al Zarquawi? He was in Saddam's army before then when Saddam was defeated he decided to create a group of extremists terrorists. He was sharing Ben Laden's ideas and beliefs even serving at the time Saddam had an army. The group of Al Zarquawi beheaded Americans maybe you never heard of that but Al Zarquawi is sharing the same beliefs than Ben Laden.
2) Have you seen the film "Black Hawk Down"? Did you realize that the war in somalia was a failure and happned under Clinton? Did you also realize that Clinton made nothing when th 1st bombing of the wtc happened in 1995 and the bombing of the U.S.S. Cole happened a year later?
Now let's take your ignorant golden sentences" I have read your entries on this site for a few months now. And you seem to hate all that is left and love all that is right. That is dangerous (imo). Blind faith in someone has caused an incredible amount of destruction over the centuries. You seem to be at least somewhat of a student of history - surely you are aware of this. "
This is false and absolutely false. Too many mistakes were done under Clinton.
However some good things were done under the Democrats under FDR, Truman and Carter with the peace talks between Israel and Egypt.
The Vietnam war was an unuseful war which lasted nearly 10 years. As far as I know it was started by a Democrat.
First you don't know me personnally so how can you make a quick judgement on me? Answer me please? You are not Mr Knowitall and you can't read through my mind, so quit saying misleading things when you don't know people. Second, I amn't a student in history, wrong again.Third, what you said is dangerous for the reasons I quoted above:
-you are making quick misleading judgements on a person you don't know personnally.
-you are giving misinformation about people's information ex: You said that I am student but I amn't a student.
It is not a question of blind faith. It is more a question of being realistic and having the sense of duty and discipline which are completely different things. You must always anticipate before the situation becomes worse.
3) Read the older threads related to War in Iraq and presidential elections you will find all the answers you need.
The U.N. did nothing against the Darfur genocide, the conclusion U.N. is a flawed organization.It has failed in Lebanon and in Serbia.
As far as I know Russia invaded Chechenya without UN's authorization.
You must eradicate extremism and terrorism before it invades your country.
The U.S. soldiers represent the majority of the U.N. soldiers and the U.S. has also the veto vote something you didn't mention.
France wasn't defeated in 1918, revise your history.It has some of the most brilliant pilots like Nungesser, Fonck, Gynemer and Costes which lead the air war from 1917 to 1918. It has also won the battle of the Marne.
You forgot to talk about the resistance and the volunteers who joined allied armies to fight the nazis. De Gaulle before ww2 said to the president that tanks and planes were needed but none wanted to listen to him and instead of that France built the Maginot line.

That is all what i had to say to you.

First. I do not realy understand your point about Al Zarquawi.
Second. You seem like a decent sort. But you also sem a bit touchy.
a)I did not say you are a student of history. I said you SEEM like a student of history. The inference was that you seeem to know your history fairly well. I wasen't saying you took history in school or anything.
b) And I said you SEEM to hate all that is left.... I never once claimed to know you. If you are going to make relatively strong statements about things. I think you had better be prepared for people to assume that you feel a certain way about things.
c)You said I typed misleading things about you. Fine. Tell me one (or more) things I typed that was misleading about you. And if it is so, I will apologize.
Then you made the statement 'You must eradicate extremism and terrorism before it invades your country.' You sound like the poster boy for the Bush administration. Am I not allowed (by your standards) to judge your believes on such an extremist statement. I stand beghind everything I say or write. I am not so sure that you do the same. But I could be wrong.

'The U.S. soldiers represent the majority of the UN soldiers.' Where did you read that? That is not so. The UN 'soldiers' are made up of whatever countries are prepared to go to war for a particular UN operation. And since the other countries in the UN combined have far more soldiers then the US, your statement is innaccurate. And I don't see the poit of it anyway. And what does the fact that they have a veto have to do with anything?

And finally, I did not say France was defeated in 1918. I said that they were invaded three times ( 1871 - actually it was 1870 - , 1918 and 1939 - actually it was 1940). I said they were defeated twice. They were defeated in 1940. And in 1871, Paris came under seige for many months by the Germans and Frnace signed an armistice. I would call that being defeated. And that is twice. Once in 1871 and once in 1940.
Oh, and you mentioned all these air aces and stuff in WW1. You obviously know something of history. Why are you so touchy when someone states that you seem to know history (somewhat) when you obviously do?

 

[McRocket]

Yes and does this mean that the canadian economy is at its best? I don't think so.
Trying to please everybody doesn't mean always to take the good decisions.
Republicans doing whatever they want? :1orglaugh You are far away from the reality.

I don't think he said it was the best economy. I thin he typed that it was better then the US's. And with no budget deficit (federally), a much stronger stock market performance this last year, stronger dollar over the same span of time and lower inflation. I would say he is right.
5 years ago, the US had the stronger economy (I think). But not anymore. I wonder what has changed (other then 9/11)? hmmmm....lol.

And the point about the Repulicans doing whatever they want. Well, for the next 4 years, they more or less can. They control the White House and both houses of government. I'd say they can do just about whateverr pleases them. And since Bush is leaving in 2008, no matter what. He has little to lose.
Let's hope he goes back on the bottle. Maybe it will calm him down a bit...lol.

 

[McRocket]

please get real:yesyes:. How much is the gdp of Canada? How much is the unemployment rate? Chretien and the others haven't made things better.

The gdp is irrelavent. The US is 9 times bigger then the US, so they will obviously have a bigger GDP. Now gdp per capita. Yes, the US has a large edge. According to the CIA World Fact Book. The per capita gdp of America is $37,800 (for 2004). Canada's is 'only' $29,800 for 2004. (btw, France's is $27,800).
So their economy is the best at making the bucks. But, to me, life is not just about how much money you have. It is also about quality of life. The US is an all or nothing kind of country (imo). And the distance between the rich and the have nots is growing. And the middle class is shrinking (I believe).
Now the states is a great place to be rich in. But it is a lousy place to be poor in. Lousier then Canada, anyway. If you get severely sick in the US and you cannot afford insurance - which can be,according to my sister you lives in the US, VERY expensive - you are in BIG trouble.
I do think that Canadians are taxed too much. And I think that we are going to have to change the way our health care system works. We are just throwing money at it now; and that is not (imo) sustainable. Our system is based on fixing people once they are sick. Instead of giving them incentive to take better care of themselves - like with user fees for those that abuse their bodies. Ooops. I went on a rant.

Anyway, I have lived in both countries (the States for about 2 years and here the rest of the time). And I much prefer here. Yes, we don't have as much as the US. But we take care of each other better and we have less to fear up here (economically) then the average American does. Now if we can just get our taxes down...

And I disagree with you georges (what else is new...except on big breasted babes) about Chretien. He made mistakes. And it turns out he was somewhat (at least) corrupt). But they did bablance the budget and they did lower taxes (capital gains taxes are much lower now, for example).

 

[georges]

The gdp is irrelavent. The US is 9 times bigger then the US, so they will obviously have a bigger GDP. Now gdp per capita. Yes, the US has a large edge. According to the CIA World Fact Book. The per capita gdp of America is $37,800 (for 2004). Canada's is 'only' $29,800 for 2004. (btw, France's is $27,800).
So their economy is the best at making the bucks. But, to me, life is not just about how much money you have. It is also about quality of life. The US is an all or nothing kind of country (imo). And the distance between the rich and the have nots is growing. And the middle class is shrinking (I believe).
Now the states is a great place to be rich in. But it is a lousy place to be poor in. Lousier then Canada, anyway. If you get severely sick in the US and you cannot afford insurance - which can be,according to my sister you lives in the US, VERY expensive - you are in BIG trouble.
I do think that Canadians are taxed too much. And I think that we are going to have to change the way our health care system works. We are just throwing money at it now; and that is not (imo) sustainable. Our system is based on fixing people once they are sick. Instead of giving them incentive to take better care of themselves - like with user fees for those that abuse their bodies. Ooops. I went on a rant.

Anyway, I have lived in both countries (the States for about 2 years and here the rest of the time). And I much prefer here. Yes, we don't have as much as the US. But we take care of each other better and we have less to fear up here (economically) then the average American does. Now if we can just get our taxes down...

And I disagree with you georges (what else is new...except on big breasted babes) about Chretien. He made mistakes. And it turns out he was somewhat (at least) corrupt). But they did bablance the budget and they did lower taxes (capital gains taxes are much lower now, for example).

I already knew and know about the situation inthe U.S. so you learn me nothing new.I have been nine times in the US and a big part of my family lives there.The fact is that a lot of American companies have subsidiaries in Canada, of course Canada has some industries but if the American subsidiaries of GM and Ford and other US word leading groups weren't there I doubt that the economical level of Canada would be that good. Tell me what Chretien and his bunch opf crooks have done so positive to Canada? Lowering taxes didn't make a big majority of foreign investors and groups invest in Canada as far as I know and Chretien didn't reduce the unemployment rate so no need to be that optimistic just a need to be realistic.

 

[harold]

I already knew and know about the situation inthe U.S. so you learn me nothing new..

hehe i will learn you good partner.

im just messing with you georges. :glugglug:

 

[georges]

hehe i will learn you good partner.

im just messing with you georges. :glugglug:

that is welcome have a beer on me :glugglug:

 

[member5726]

Georges... i already said to you that Chretien is GONE !! Paul Martin is the premier now... so at least talk about the right guy when you try to talk about Canada...

 

[McRocket]

I already knew and know about the situation inthe U.S. so you learn me nothing new.I have been nine times in the US and a big part of my family lives there.The fact is that a lot of American companies have subsidiaries in Canada, of course Canada has some industries but if the American subsidiaries of GM and Ford and other US word leading groups weren't there I doubt that the economical level of Canada would be that good. Tell me what Chretien and his bunch opf crooks have done so positive to Canada? Lowering taxes didn't make a big majority of foreign investors and groups invest in Canada as far as I know and Chretien didn't reduce the unemployment rate so no need to be that optimistic just a need to be realistic.

I already answered that question Georges. As far as I am concerned , if a leader cannot balance the budget without raising taxes (except during national states of emergency), he/she should not be leader. Period. Chretien was not (imo) one of our all time great leaders. BUT he did balance the budget and lowered taxes and had the 'guts' to keep us out of that American mess in Iraq. If that is not enough for you fine.
And two of those three things Bush did not do. So that (as well as Guantanamo Bay) is principally why I think he is such a not fine head of state.

 

[McRocket]

bump

 

[harold]

bump? i think there should be a rule against bumping political threads.

 

[McRocket]

bump? i think there should be a rule against bumping political threads.

What's the big deal? I was the last person to post a reply before that anyway. I typed a new reply and didn't like it and do not know how to erase it so I just typed 'bump'.

 

[McRocket]

I already knew and know about the situation inthe U.S. so you learn me nothing new.I have been nine times in the US and a big part of my family lives there.The fact is that a lot of American companies have subsidiaries in Canada, of course Canada has some industries but if the American subsidiaries of GM and Ford and other US word leading groups weren't there I doubt that the economical level of Canada would be that good. Tell me what Chretien and his bunch opf crooks have done so positive to Canada? Lowering taxes didn't make a big majority of foreign investors and groups invest in Canada as far as I know and Chretien didn't reduce the unemployment rate so no need to be that optimistic just a need to be realistic.

Oh and BTW. You have visited America 9 times and much of your family lives in America; and that means you know what the differences are between the U.S. and Canada.
I lived in America for 2 years. I went to University in America. I dated an American. My entire surviving immediate family lives in America. I have visited America (outside of the two years) about 90 times, if not many more. I have driven across America from coast to coast. Plus I have lived in Canada for (practically) the rest of my life.
And you are telling me that you know even remotely as much as I do as to how the two countries compare?
Visiting a country is NOTHING like living in it. Have you ever even been to Canada? Have you lived here? When you have lived in both places then count yourself as someone with any kind of remotely valid opinion about the two places and how they compare.

 

[Brino]

You know, I had an argument with georges a couple months ago and it was really just a big waste of time but I understand and agree with where your coming from mcrocket. Keep fighting the Good fight! :thumbsup:

 

[McRocket]

You know, I had an argument with georges a couple months ago and it was really just a big waste of time but I understand and agree with where your coming from mcrocket. Keep fighting the Good fight! :thumbsup:

Thanks Brino. He seems like a sensible, decent guy (well, as sensible and decent as guys on porn sites get ). But on politics their is no talking to him.

 

[McRocket]

bump? i think there should be a rule against bumping political threads.

btw..who is the gal in your pic? She looks a little like a young Erika Eleniak. Whoever she is I really like her.

 

[georges]

Oh and BTW. You have visited America 9 times and much of your family lives in America; and that means you know what the differences are between the U.S. and Canada.
I lived in America for 2 years. I went to University in America. I dated an American. My entire surviving immediate family lives in America. I have visited America (outside of the two years) about 90 times, if not many more. I have driven across America from coast to coast. Plus I have lived in Canada for (practically) the rest of my life.
And you are telling me that you know even remotely as much as I do as to how the two countries compare?
Visiting a country is NOTHING like living in it. Have you ever even been to Canada? Have you lived here? When you have lived in both places then count yourself as someone with any kind of remotely valid opinion about the two places and how they compare.

Yes and ? You seem to prefer Canada because it is less individualistic, I know.
Where did you leave exactly in the us? I haven't visited Canada no never.
Because according to your judgement, people who live in the US aren't that happy?
You may have been to the university and probably dated an American, yes you certainly discovered the American mentality which was new for you. I understood the American mentality during my first trips to the US when I was 8 and 10.
Valid opinion can be formed if you understand at 100% the way of thinking and the way of taking decision in a country as well as the mentality of the people in this country.

 

[georges]

You know, I had an argument with georges a couple months ago and it was really just a big waste of time but I understand and agree with where your coming from mcrocket. Keep fighting the Good fight! :thumbsup:

I expected that from you Brino,I wasted my time to prouve you how you were wrong by believing that Kerry will win elections.Oh yes like Ranger said "when a democrat loses it is always a case of fraud and intimidation".
But if you feel so unhappy in the U.S. why don't you go live in Canada?

 

[member2686]

Gentlemen, be nice. It's o.k. to differ, but calm down. This board doesn't need fights!!! We're all here for fun! :nanner: :hatsoff: