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titsrock
I'm too lazy to set a usertitle.
So, let me get this straight. You are ready to sweep under the carpet Nazis and their crimes because you think they are ancient history, but you want to run out and drop the hammer on Bush/Cheney for their war crimes? You have an interesting interpretation of "Justice" WillE....
I say we put Herr Demjanjuk on a plane with a nurse and his pills and let him answer his charges. Just being old and sick today is not an escape pass from (allegedly) taking part in the holocaust.
I say we put Herr Demjanjuk on a plane with a nurse and his pills and let him answer his charges. Just being old and sick today is not an escape pass from (allegedly) taking part in the holocaust.
Will E Worm
Conspiracy...
Reread the article, "prosecute him for alleged WW2 crimes."
If we are going back to WW2 to find criminals that should have been caught by now, why not further back in history?
We could charge the decedents of historical figures and their soldiers and slave owners and so on.
We could have a back to the future trial for all the crimes in history.
The "justice" system has a statute of limitations for criminals who violate women for only a ten year old crime. So, why is catching an old Nazi still allowed?
I would stop the tracking of old Nazis and find the new ones, like Bush and Cheney.
At least their crimes are still fresh.
I'd also lift the statues of limitations and reopen all cold cases.
Baill Inneraora
I changed my middle-name to Freeones
This has been going on since 1983. The Supreme Court of Israel said there was not enough evidence about 20 years ago.
Mr. Daystar
In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
I live about 15 minutes away from this guy, and they've been fucking with him way to long. If the Supreme court of Israel, said there wasn't enough evidence 20 years ago, it should have been over and done with then and there. I agree, what happened in WWII was an atrocious act, but there is no fucking way, anyone is going to convince me that, if you are anything lower then a HIGH ranking General, or Field Marshall, you would not have been killed yourself for not carrying out orders...and even they would most likely have been shot for treason if they didn't obey. How come no one says anything about the thousands of German civilians killed in all of the bombing raids we flew over Germany, or the thousands of British civilians killed by Germany. It may seem heartless to say, but it was a war, and although that isn't a great excuse, it is what it is...sad and unfortunate, and unbelievably, no one has learned from it, but to continue hunting the remaining German solders that MIGHT have had a hand in making any of the decisions, is not justice, it's revenge, and while I can respect a good healthy dose of blood thirsty vengeance, Worm is right, there are MANY, MANY other criminals out there, that the worlds courts should be putting on trial.
meesterperfect
Hiliary 2020
Why not go after the japanese also?
i dont know, but how much evidence do they have to convict this guy after 60yrs?
i dont know, but how much evidence do they have to convict this guy after 60yrs?
Galactic
Pain heals, chicks dig scars, Freeones lasts forever
:wtf:
Exactly what did Bush/Cheney do that is, apparently in your mind, equivalent to what the Nazis did? Seriously, I am not asking to be a dick to you......I'd really like to hear your argument on this one.
As far as "going back in time", dude, your comparison about trying relatives is ridiculous. They want to try this particular man because he may have been directly involved. How the hell can you compare what my great-great-great-great-great grandfather may have done with me?
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That does not mean he is innocent. I believe some of the survivor's also have said he was a Nazi. If anyone would know it was them. Frankly if he did the crime, he should do the time. :2 cents:
thebear247
Pain heals, chicks dig scars, Freeones lasts forever
yes and no i agree with that but at the same time dont we have bigger fish to fry besides a near 90 yr old man .
what about all the murders kidnappers rapist walking our streets now
That is going to happen no matter what. The only way to bust them is if they get caught or if they have enough evidence in court. You can still arrest that man and other criminals. Age in this case should not be a factor. Nazi's didn't care about ages when they killed people. :2 cents:
thebear247
Pain heals, chicks dig scars, Freeones lasts forever
very true but what lesson will he learn by spending his last dieing days in an overflowing jail it wont bring back the people killed . he already walked free.
i say let karma deal with his ass
ok jane you win this round my father always told me son never argue with a woman you will loose
Well that same sentence would apply to anyone that killed. Jail time does not bring anyone back. He has already been free for a long time. Jail may bring some comfort to the people who are still alive that suffered in camps. I am sure they would love even a little bit of justice. :wave2:
Who is the villain here? The American Jews, the German court or John Demjanjuk.
The answer is none of the above.
John Demjanjuk did serve as an accessory to thousands of death in WWII.
But the KGB of Soviet Union "played" the CIA, the State Department and the Justice Dept. and provided false information and mis-identified John Demjanjuk as the "Ivan the Terrible".
It was not until after 1990's, the Russians came forward and provided the real identity of "Ivan the Terrible".
John Demjanjuk was let go by the Isreal Supreme Court because of "double jeopardy". John Demjanjuk was charged once and he was acquitted.
But the Justice Department Eric Holder insisted to deport him because of mistakes made by the US Dept. of Justice.
Let he rested in peace with his family at Seven Hills, Ohio.
GOD will decide his fate not Eric Holder of Justice Department !
The answer is none of the above.
John Demjanjuk did serve as an accessory to thousands of death in WWII.
But the KGB of Soviet Union "played" the CIA, the State Department and the Justice Dept. and provided false information and mis-identified John Demjanjuk as the "Ivan the Terrible".
It was not until after 1990's, the Russians came forward and provided the real identity of "Ivan the Terrible".
John Demjanjuk was let go by the Isreal Supreme Court because of "double jeopardy". John Demjanjuk was charged once and he was acquitted.
But the Justice Department Eric Holder insisted to deport him because of mistakes made by the US Dept. of Justice.
Let he rested in peace with his family at Seven Hills, Ohio.
GOD will decide his fate not Eric Holder of Justice Department !
Skyraider22
The One and Only Big Daddy
Will my friend you make a really good point here but why are they still bing hunted because betwwwn 1933-1945 the Nazi did some !@#$ up shit I'm just saying Bush is not any better with his weapons of mass destruction He is holding the receipt.
TITS KING
I'm so great I'm jelous of myself.
While as far as Bush+Cheney+Rumsfield will be never prosecuted because they are oil tycoons and have money............ and.....that poor 89 year old retired autoworker is prosecuted because he has no money........money works..:2 cents::2 cents:
And second thing is Mr.Bush at the end of his term apologized in case of IRAQ and that apology was being accepted by President Bush at that time and as such he and his friends are innocent now.......... ha ha ha ha :rofl:
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love_tha_sweet
The best things in life are Free!
Bush should've apoligized for not going into IRAQ sooner then he did. His first task should've been to take out Sadam way before he did.
Member2019
1,000 posts to go for my own user title!
Then let him finally have his day in court.
I gotta agree with titsrock, this is pathetic in comparison.
ChefChiTown
The secret ingredient? MY BALLS
The stupidest part about this whole story is how everyone (in the judicial system) wants him to be punished for torturing people in Nazi prison camps, but the same people also said that he can't be deported because "moving him would be torture".
If it was my decision, whether or not somebody was extradited to another country to face charges would depend on the quality of evidence they have against that person. Maybe if it's possible I would let a grand jury look at it over here, and make a recommendation. I wouldn't however just hand somebody over just because some other country asked for a person.
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