Did Fox News originate in the Nixon White House?

[Hot Mega]

Did Fox News originate in the Nixon White House?

Gawker unearths a decades-old memo that suggests Roger Ailes was an early proponent of Fox-style news — even when he was a young Nixon aide

Since its launch in 1996, Fox News has rocketed to dominance in the cable wars. But Roger Ailes' "fair and balanced" alternative to what he calls the liberal bias of other news outlets was far from an overnight success. In fact, according to documents obtained by Gawker, his idea for a conservative news source was conceived in 1970, when Ailes worked as a media consultant for then-President Richard Nixon. Here, a brief guide to how it all (might have) started:

Where was the idea for Fox News born?
According to Gawker, the concept was first outlined in a 1970 memo titled "A Plan for Putting the GOP on TV News." Gawker's John Cook found the document "buried deep within the Richard Nixon Presidential Library." In it, the author proposes sidestepping the "prejudices of network news" to get "pro-administration," pro-Republican video directly to local TV stations.

Did Ailes himself write the memo?
That's not clear, although he wrote notes in the margins, saying, "This is an excellent idea," according to Tim Dickinson at Rolling Stone. Ailes also asked, "Who would purchase equipment and run operation? White House? RNC?" It's unclear where the idea went from there in the Nixon administration, but the memo describes something similar to Television News Incorporated — the "Ailes-helmed 'fair and balanced' mid-1970s precursor to Fox News," Dickinson says.

There was a similar TV outlet that long ago?
Yes, says Dickinson. TVN supplied local stations with video "news" that "promoted the GOP line, while presenting itself as an impartial purveyor of journalism," he says. Beer magnate Joseph Coors covered the distribution and production costs.

Why go to such lengths?
The Nixon-era memo says that, even as early as 1970, people were watching TV news more than they were reading newspapers. So the best way to get pro-Nixon news to the heartland was to send it there yourself. "People are lazy," the memo's author said. "With television you just sit — watch — listen. The thinking is done for you."

Leak.....

http://news.yahoo.com/did-fox-news-originate-nixon-white-house-133000588.html

 

[Juliuscaesar]

P.S

They didn't have cable in Nixon's day.

In a crushing body blow to the pushers of the so-called "Fox Effect," which claims the conservative media is dragging the left into the center, UCLA political science professor Tim Groseclose in Left Turn claims that "all" mainstream news outlets have a liberal bias in their reporting that makes even moderate organizations appear out of the mainstream and decidedly right-wing to news consumers who are influenced by the slant.

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/wa...1/06/16/book-liberal-media-distorts-news-bias

 

[Hot Mega]

P.S

They didn't have cable in Nixon's day.

The article didn't assert there was as Ailes would have just been relying on the standard of the day.

In his case in '96 when Faux was born...there was widespread cable and satellite tv.

So he used that vehicle which turned out to be even better for him since it meant they could be even looser with their 'news'.

 

[ragincaucasian]

not for nothing, but this was offered already in the propaganda thread, so get ready for FOX news defense replies infinitum

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_model

This is more interesting when you view it through the historical perspective (rather than the reactionary 'right' vs 'left' lens) so try and keep your trained vitriol to a minimum

http://gawker.com/5814150

All 318 pages are available here.
http://gawkernet.com/ailesfiles/ailesfiles.html

 

[Hot Mega]

not for nothing, but this was offered already in the propaganda thread, so get ready for FOX news defense replies infinitum

Good point...

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

Ailes is conservative. Ted Turner - founder of CNN - is liberal - real liberal. I don't see the problem, other than the left going bananas because they are getting shredded by FNC. Sooooo upset they are getting crushed in the ratings.
:1orglaugh

I frankly don't care but find is soooo amusing.

 

[ragincaucasian]

I don't see the problem

I frankly don't care but find is soooo amusing.

you didn't read the memo (of the link). Try reading it and see if you have a problem with it

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

 

[Hot Mega]

Ailes is conservative. Ted Turner - founder of CNN - is liberal. I don't see the problem, other than the left going bananas because they are getting shredded by FNC. Sooooo upset they are getting crushed in the ratings.
:1orglaugh

I frankly don't care but find is soooo amusing.

What point does that make? Most if not all people in essence subscribe to some kind of socio-political perspective.

That Turner happens to be a liberal (progressive actually) is no more relevant than the belief the ratings of Faux has anything to do with the quality of their reporting.

The difference between the two is Ailes actually worked on behalf of a political perspective and further seeks to expressly use his network to perpetuate it.

Find evidence that Turner is his equal in this..

you didn't read the memo (of the link). Try reading it and see if you have a problem with it

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

I think you're pissing in the wind on this one R/C...

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

you didn't read the memo (of the link). Try reading it and see if you have a problem with it

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

Do you actually think I buy into the entirety of their philosophies? I was quite clear in our other thread I don't like quite a few of the people there - their warmongering sickens me, as does the "focus groups" and how them and Luntz smeared the hell out of my candidate - Ron Paul - the last election.

Saying I buy into everything at FNC is like saying I bought all my profs' talking points - hook, line, sinker. Nothing is further from the truth. The bias in the majority of my texts was quite evident; I even had profs admit this TO ME.

My point(s) in both threads is they are not this evil empire people make them out to be for chrissakes and that the "MSM" are overwhelmingly liberal. Nothing more, nothing less. :2 cents:

 

[Hot Mega]

Do you actually think I buy into the entirety of their philosophies?

Saying I buy into everything at FNC is like saying I bought all my profs' talking points - hook, line, sinker. Nothing is further from the truth. T

My point(s) in both threads is they are not this evil empire people make them out to be for chrissakes and that the "MSM" are overwhelmingly liberal. Nothing more, nothing less. :2 cents:

:dunno: Sounds to me like you bought the scam hook, line, sinker and they're asking for their rod back.

The whole point of their existence and scam to hook so called conservatives (and others) is the silly notion that the so called 'mainstream media" (a phrase conveniently coined by the right in this campaign) is overwhelmingly liberal and biased. Therefore, they are the alternative.

"Mission Accomplished" and you didn't even feel it...:1orglaugh

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

:dunno: Sounds to me like you bought the scam hook, line, sinker and they're asking for their rod back.

The whole point of their existence and scam to hook so called conservatives (and others) is the silly notion that the so called 'mainstream media" (a phrase conveniently coined by the right in this campaign) is overwhelmingly liberal and biased. Therefore, they are the alternative.

"Mission Accomplished" and you didn't even feel it...:1orglaugh

Well you would be wrong. I absolutely know how to weed out bullshit. I've already basically had half the other thread agreeing with me that it's quite clear the MSM is overwhelmingly liberal - or at least filled with liberal talking heads. :thefinger

 

[Hot Mega]

Well you would be wrong. I absolutely know how to weed out bullshit. I've already basically had half the other thread agreeing with me that it's quite clear the MSM is overwhelmingly liberal - or at least filled with liberal talking heads.

:dunno: What can I say BS Scott, you're prodigiously brilliant.

 

[Juliuscaesar]

DING DING DING!

You've won the kool aid award Hot Mega!

 

[Hot Mega]

You've won the kool aid award Hot Mega!

:hatsoff:

T/Y

I would post the award you've run away with J/C but FOs would probably censor it.

PS...Watch it ....n00b...

 

[ragincaucasian]

Do you actually think I buy into the entirety of their philosophies?

its not the philosophies [that the article was talking about]

it is the willful shaping of reality for mass consumption.....read it, without your emotional glasses on

 

[Hot Mega]

its not the philosophies [that the article was talking about]

it is the willful shaping of reality for mass consumption.....read it, without your emotional glasses on

:rofl2:

R/C....go outside....aim your face toward the sun and start spitting in hopes of extinguishing it.

You'll have better luck with that proposition.

 

[Trident1]

Whaaaaaa!!!! Whaaaaaaaaaa!!! Whaaaaa!!!!!:weeping:


Fox news cweated by Nixon.............whaaaaaa!!!!



Who cares. Fox is no different than the lib media brainwashing people for decades.

 

[Boothbabe]

I've watched Fox News and other American news stations a few times and the one thing I always notice is how hard they try to keep the general population afraid. Why do they want you live in fear?

 

[Hot Mega]

Again, Faux is purely and simply in the entertainment business and their audience is the so called conservative. They're in the entertainment business cloaked in the facade of serious news.


They (and those they entertain) have invested years creating the living myth that media is overtly biased using anecdotes and isolated incidents to the effect that it becomes their ubiquitous cover in practicing it.

What happens from this? Whenever Faux is caught spinning, ginning or outright misleading...their audience falls back on the criticism of mainstream media...They WANT the debate over 'news' to digress into the your spin versus our spin.

Point being is they (their audience) don't even want Faux in many cases to give them the straight dope...they expect Faux to create a cover or at minimum a spin.

:1orglaugh...Ask for a clear cut sample exemplifying the above and I give you this Try...

Who cares. Fox is no different than the lib media brainwashing people for decades.

 

[ragincaucasian]

Why do they want you live in fear?

the same reason your local news station has major productions for 'severe weather' / Storm Trackers....

The more anxious the viewer is, the more stimulated they will be for (impulse) purchases. I watched FOX for 30 minutes and ended up buying gold bouillon, emergency ration kit, and a Mossberg 12 gauge to keep my daughter from getting knocked up from all those illegal aliens

Corporate news is GEARED, first and foremost, not to deliver 'news', but to provide a medium for ADVERTISING DOLLARS. The same is true for print media.

That corporate influence is what leads to the shitty state of news today. If you are being underwritten by Crest Toothpaste, your station is likely not going to report that Crest causes elephantitis dick cancer - conflict of interest.