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Did the democrats loose, on 11-3-2009?

Friday on my mind

Pain heals, chicks dig scars, Freeones lasts forever
If I were an incumbent up for re-election in 2010, I would be shitting my pants now.

This is the thing IMO.If people are still as worried about the economy in 2010 as they are now,all incumbents are in deep trouble.I'm from NJ and and people here are not happy and wanted change.We have deep debt problems,high unemployment,high property taxes etc.

Chris Christie the new gov elect in NJ better have it looking better by his re-election or he will be out.

The way this translates to Obama is the same thing apllies,he better be able to say and show we have made the conditions economically for working people a lot better or he will be voted out as well.
 

jasonk282

Banned
^ that is how our political system is suppose to work. if your not doing a good job then your out. All this name calling, in party fighting does nothing. If you can not/did not improve your school, district, state or Country while you were in office then you need to be voted out.
 

Facial_King

I'm too lazy to set a usertitle.
yeah the democarts lossed the uhlekshn thats grate voat Palen in 2,012!
 

calpoon

Yes, I bribed and cheated to get this far
It's because the Republicans are all crazy losers with nothing better to do. Most of them are old people that want to hang onto all the government benefits that they got and not give them to anyone else because they are afraid of change. They are pissed off about politics and they will wait in line to vote for a republican, no matter their credentials, just because they don't want a Democrat, no matter their credentials.

Most of the Democrats are young and hip and they have more important things to do with their time like work or go to school or partying. They don't really know anything about politics and they only vote if they think it's a big deal. They will vote when it makes them seem cool and popular.

Of course that is a bit far fetched generalization, but it does have a ring of truth.
 

Friday on my mind

Pain heals, chicks dig scars, Freeones lasts forever
It's because the Republicans are all crazy losers with nothing better to do. Most of them are old people that want to hang onto all the government benefits that they got and not give them to anyone else because they are afraid of change. They are pissed off about politics and they will wait in line to vote for a republican, no matter their credentials, just because they don't want a Democrat, no matter their credentials.

Most of the Democrats are young and hip and they have more important things to do with their time like work or go to school or partying. They don't really know anything about politics and they only vote if they think it's a big deal. They will vote when it makes them seem cool and popular.

Of course that is a bit far fetched generalization, but it does have a ring of truth.

I saw the breakdown of who voted for who here in the NJ race and it confirms what you say.Under 25 went solidly for the dem and over 65 solidly republican.

And turn out overall was extremely low,think they said lowest ever.So not sure you can really read a lot into the vote except people were not very inspired to particpate.
 

georges

Moderator
Staff member
obama already lost two states, so if it is not a warning then what is it?
 

Rey C.

Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
here is the thing that people are missing about NY-23.

Scozzafava is a RINO(Republican In Name Only) she is in favor of abortion, gay marriage, tax increases, card check legislation favoring the labor unions, and ACORN and is endorsed by DailyKos. Also once she ended her campagine she went and endorsed Owens, NOT the conservative candidate. Does not sound like your typical GOP. There was a rumor that she was going to leave the GOP once elected anyway and pull an Arlen. yea the GOP wrong for endorsing her, YESSSSS!!!! and they paid for what could have be an easy win for Hoffman if they went that route. So while the Dems can rejoice about NY-23 the GOP needs to look at NJ and VA and solidify their party for 2010.

I don't know much about Hoffman. I've heard that the Conservative Party of NY is made up of some interesting characters with some interesting ideas though - but I don't know. But I do know VA. And for statewide offices, we tend not to elect extremists from either party. Despite Eric Cantor's spin, there's a really good reason why McDonnell didn't have Sarah Palin on his arm while he was on the trail here. Even Democrats in VA (statewide/national offices) tend to be fiscally responsible, if not conservative, and social moderates. We don't have too many flakes here from either party.

So maybe Hoffman can run as a Republican next year and recapture that seat. But with Scozzafava only getting about 5% and Owens getting about 49% of the vote, seems like there were more than a few Republicans who preferred to vote for a Democrat rather than someone like Hoffman.

My guess is, the Democrats will lose some seats next year. Not as much as in VA, but nationwide, that is typically the case. But the issue I see for the Republicans is what kind of Republicans they pick to run in various contests. If the GOP runs Club for Growth types or Sarah Palin Evangelicals in every race (as they seek to purge the party of so called RINO's), they might find that people may not be happy or satisfied with Obama and the Dems, but they're not necessarily going to vote for wingnuts in protest either. Not liking Obama does not necessarily translate into loving Limbaugh/Palin/Pat Robertson. With a national party I.D. still hanging between 20%-25%, I question whether the GOP gets that.

If the Dems go father to the left and the GOP keeps playing to the extreme right, this could be another Perot moment in history. And personally, I'd love to see it. Now could be the perfect time for a fiscally responsible and socially moderate (or even libertarian) movement to step up to the plate.
 

E-Ann-Hilden

I changed my middle-name to Freeones
Virginia has always had the opposite party in governorship versus the presidency of the U.S. at the time. I thought it was a big win in NY in a traditional Republican area.

The Conservatives wing trying to divide the Republican party in half is nothing but good for the Dem's. Silly politicians! Moderates and independents decide elections!
 

23lebron23

WTF is wrong with me?!
Oboma sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fucker had a bridge shut down to get to philly because he was in camden nj in support of the other stupid democrat corzine who all he does is raise fucking taxes!

I could not get to the Eagles game because of it!

obama-peeing.jpg
 

georges

Moderator
Staff member
Oboma sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fucker had a bridge shut down to get to philly because he was in camden nj in support of the other stupid democrat corzine who all he does is raise fucking taxes!

I could not get to the Eagles game because of it!

obama-peeing.jpg

so true and so realistic picture :) :yesyes:
 

FlyingWallaby

Pussy, pussy, where are you?
Can anyone see a pattern being formed? NOTHING is Obama's fault EVER.

1. The Economy- Nope, he's fixing Bush's mess.

2. The 2008 Election Results- Nope, these were more about local issues than a referendum on Obama.

3. The 2010 Election Results- Nope, a sitting President with a majority in both houses of Congress ALWAYS loses seats in a mid-term election.
 
Oboma sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fucker had a bridge shut down to get to philly because he was in camden nj in support of the other stupid democrat corzine who all he does is raise fucking taxes!

I could not get to the Eagles game because of it!

obama-peeing.jpg

Well at least you're being rational about it.....
 
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