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Do rapists ever change?

georges

Moderator
Staff member
no, he should have been killed with a bullet in the head. rapists never change
 

Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
no, he should have been killed with a bullet in the head. rapists never change

You are mistaken my friend. He DID change...from a rapist, to a serial killer...and we helped him to do it. It's sad, but true, when a sociopath like this commits a rape, and is caught, prosecuted, and imprisoned, he sits in his cell stewing over being caught doing something he believes he had the right to do, and tells himself, "the next time, they'll never catch me, because no one will be able to tell". So when the time comes, and he gets released...probably knowing full well it won't be very long before he gets to have his way with some victim, he very likely has a plan formulated in his brain, and he's transformed from a vile sexual deviant, in need of a lifetime behind bars...or better yet, a bullet to the head, to an experienced criminal, prepared to do whatever it takes to keep himself out of prison. The more he kills, the better he gets at it, and the more he likes it. No...he changed my friend...for the worse.
 

CunningStunts

I changed my middle-name to Freeones
Evidence please to substantiate your claim that 'rapists never change'.

Research has shown a strong correlation between sex offenders and recidivism, somewhere above the 90% mark.

I agree, it's easier and more human to kill them if they are violent sex offenders and especially those who have committed sex crimes against children. These stories have to stop about these guys getting out and making another person(s) suffer the same fate.
 

Friday on my mind

Pain heals, chicks dig scars, Freeones lasts forever
Some of you were just born in the wrong era.You would have agreed (or at least think you would) with the policys of a few hundred years ago more than what has changed and become acceptable since.

Dealth penalty never was a very well used penalty ,it always was used discriminatorily determined by class and social position.England which has much longer history with it's use then the US is a great example but came to their senses like most of the world and stopped using it decades ago.The US stands out with still a few states that actually still execute people,primarily southern ones like Texas and Louisiana.Only other countries in the world that still execute are the ones like Iran and some other middle eastern countries and China.Seems odd that some of the same people who talk about how those countries are so awful and backward would support the same policys they have,but maybe they don't see they have much in common with those folks when it comes to being civilized as the western nations would define it.

Here is the history of capital punishment in England and the UK.Want to adopt the bloody code here in the US?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_the_United_Kingdom

"Capital punishment was used in the United Kingdom and its predecessor states of England and Scotland from the earliest times until the punishment was abolished in the twentieth century. The last executions, by hanging, took place in 1964, prior to capital punishment being abolished for murder (in 1969 in Great Britain and in 1973 in Northern Ireland). Although not applied since, the death penalty remained on the statute book for certain other offences until 1998."

Waltheof II, Earl of Northumbria was the only lord to be formally executed during the reign of William I of England.[1] William Rufus re-introduced hanging but only for those found guilty of poaching royal deer.[2] He too is known to have executed only a single aristocrat, William of Aldrie.[citation needed] Henry I brought hanging back as the main means of execution for many crimes. William Fitz Osbern was the first recorded execution at Tyburn in 1196. The hanging tree, near present-day Marble Arch in Hyde Park, became notorious. Under the reign of Henry VIII some 72,000 people are estimated to have been executed by various methods[citation needed] including boiling, burning at the stake, decapitation and hanging, sometimes with the added punishment of drawing and quartering while still alive.

Sir Samuel Romilly, speaking to the House of Commons on capital punishment in 1810, declared that "…(there is) no country on the face of the earth in which there [have] been so many different offences according to law to be punished with death as in England." Known as the "Bloody Code", at its height the criminal law included some 220 crimes punishable by death, including "being in the company of Gypsies for one month", "strong evidence of malice in a child aged 7–14 years of age" and "blacking the face or using a disguise whilst committing a crime". Many of these offences had been introduced to protect the property of the wealthy classes that emerged during the first half of the 18th century, a notable example being the Black Act of 1723, which created 50 capital offences for various acts of theft and poaching.

Whilst executions for murder, burglary and robbery were common, the death sentences for minor offenders were often not carried out. However, children were commonly executed for such minor crimes as stealing. A sentence of death could be commuted or respited (permanently postponed) for reasons such as benefit of clergy, official pardons, pregnancy of the offender or performance of military or naval duty[3] Between 1770 and 1830, 35,000 death sentences were handed down in England and Wales, but only 7,000 executions were carried out."
 

Legzman

what the fuck you lookin at?
They do change from the raper to the rapie when they go to prison.
 

Streetprogidy

Violating the parole
I was reading awhile ago a article in WIRED magazine, that our prison system for a industiral country isn't all so great. We have the highest incarsation rate and that people get sent to jail for dumb thing. I feel like we in a way foster this behavior, since we put someone in jail for 20 years, when they come out what do they know? How much has changed outside of prison in 20 years...I feel like we should help convicts, educate them in prison treat them well, fix them if they need mental help, but we dont we just put them in there and let them rot till there time is up. I feel like we need to change our prison system, help them get a job educate them and such...There will be cases where this fails and this is due to people with serious mental illness. Plus today we are making new strives to understanding the human brain and that most serial killers and rapists are menatally unstable, and imo should not be put in jail or let out until there cleard of what ever illness.
 

JayJohn85

Banned
Dont like the topics they very morbid but couldnt help but notice the big death penalty argument from my various lurking. Thing is though its really ironic but I am of opinion alot of guys get the death penalty and perhaps some of them might not even have been guilty as the cops maybe couldnt work something out, Needed a scape coat due to public pressure etc etc blah blah. Yet theres all these lovely example of certified nuts getting out only to commit a higher crime with likely more proficiency....Go in an amateur come out a pro.

Perhaps this may sound really radical but I think they have done some experimentation with such shit before. They should prescribe drugs that inhibits violent behaviour and in these extreme cases maybe repress the sex drive altogether. Or would that be too inhumane? Certainly clear up some of the prisons and limit such cases. I mean I doubt everything can be attributed to cultural, social and poverty issues. Some of these fookers are just quite frankly of the genetic disposition for this shit and they'll eventually fully crack that too and be able to identify such markers.

All this caper about folks being good in the past and tosh I read there in some other post was quite laughable....Humanity hasnt changed in the slightest from the times of the roman mobs and gladiatorial pits. Sadists and loons of every description have always existed and always will its genetic probably connected to parts of the brain we no longer use. Because way back the capacity for violence was probably a important survival mechanism which is manifesting itself now in vile and negative ways. Of course some of it is mental illness which that pretty much is. But as I say it will be revealed that guys who become this depraved will be proven to be genetically susceptible. Yep all men are capable of violence but some guys thrive on the shit and some are screwed up.
 

calpoon

Yes, I bribed and cheated to get this far
People can change yes, but it's rare and difficult and prisons are not the way to do it. Think about it. How is spending most of your life (if you are convicted of a harsh crime) in an environment where you are likely to be beaten and raped yourself, or at the least treated like shit and unable to have any kind of normal human relationships, if not in total isolation, going to produce a healthy functioning member of society?

I know that most people think the solution is to kill them or never let them out of prison but all that does is ease the conscience of a society that failed to prevent people from becoming criminals. If we really knew how to rehabilitate and change someone, then we could make it so that they would not commit the crimes in the first place. That seems like the only thing that matters to me.
 

lurkingdirk

I'm too lazy to set a usertitle.
man, there is a lot of hate here in this thread. I certainly would like to see better repercussions for rapists and so forth, but I certainly do not support the death penalty for any crime, this one included. America is startlingly alone in its use of the death penalty.

I know these are loathsome and hurtful and hateful acts, but does wishing someone dead help anyone? I believe everyone is capable of change, are we doing what we should be doing in order to bring about that change?

You're welcome to flame me for this post.
 

h00t3rl0v3r

My nipples are like bullets!
Wishing someone dead helps. I know someone with a lifetime trauma because of such a degenerate perv. She's punished for life. The one who did that to her, deserves worse...
 
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