Deepcover
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Donald Trump a birther? More like a breeder. I'd put Celine Dion in that category as well.
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Donald Trump is a "Birther" (and he's going to run for President)
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meesterperfect
Hiliary 2020
3/30 birth certificate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hNsH6FCKI4
3/31 major issues, china, mid east.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYrZOaLTS7Y
4/01 Afghanistan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH3D22yWAuA&feature=related
unless you watch the last 2 parts you can't really make an educated decision about him for PREZ because this is the only time he's spoke publically about these things.
It does seem to me though that if he does run he is doing it for the improvement of the country and not for ego, status , money , power or to promote a liberal agenda.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hNsH6FCKI4
3/31 major issues, china, mid east.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYrZOaLTS7Y
4/01 Afghanistan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH3D22yWAuA&feature=related
unless you watch the last 2 parts you can't really make an educated decision about him for PREZ because this is the only time he's spoke publically about these things.
It does seem to me though that if he does run he is doing it for the improvement of the country and not for ego, status , money , power or to promote a liberal agenda.
Hot Mega
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Most people who run for POTUS would be in for a pay cut if they won. He is running to promote himself and to assuage his ego IMO.
Now of course he's not going to stand up there and proclaim this but his track record is pretty clear in these things. DT rarely does anything that isn't for promotion or his ego....(since we can rule out the money factor in this case).
That doesn't mean he doesn't believe in something ideologically but he'd have to do more than what he has for me to take him seriously.
meesterperfect
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yeah maybe, but doing something for ego can be a good thing.
what can feed an ego more than being called the guy who put the country back on track......I'm not saying he could or couldn't but only that that is a good motivation.
what can feed an ego more than being called the guy who put the country back on track......I'm not saying he could or couldn't but only that that is a good motivation.
Zolf J. Kimbly
Would take a bullet for Freeones
i didnt say trump was in the Klan
he is too "Jew influenced" according to those jackasses
i was makin a refrence to all the other birther loons
not trump
Hot Mega
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Not if in assuaging his ego his goal is merely to add being POTUS to his trophy case.:2 cents:
bahodeme
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When I joined the Air Force, I had to bring my birth certificate. When I worked at DoD as a civilian, for my security clearance, not only did they have mine, but they had & checked every member of my immediate family. If they did that for myself & others, don't you think that for one of, if not the, most powerful person in the free world, that somewhere in all the paperwork that was done, there is a birth certificate??:dunno:
CunningStunts
I changed my middle-name to Freeones
Just to put the whole damn thing to rest, and to support this concept of "transparency" he keeps talking about, why not just show the thing already so we can talk about real problems?? :dunno:
meesterperfect
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well its too late now.
at this point whats to stop a forgery?
do I think he was born in hawaii, yes probably.
but I also believe there is something on that document that he is trying to hide, especially around the time of the election.
One point Trump made that Oreilly disagreed with was the supposed birth announcement in the newspaper a few days after barack was born.
He really does that? especially considering his parents were a hippy and an african immigrant?
Hot Mega
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To whom? Presumably he's presented it to more than enough fact checkers to where the notion has already been debunked by correctly wired people.
Who else is he supposed to show it to..? Keeping in mind for Obama and his people it's likely the case that they believe entertaining the subject for as long as they have has already surpassed the level of being absurd.
For him he probably feels since he was born in HI, him having to produce evidence of this fact is as silly as GWB needing to produce evidence proving he was born in Connecticut 2 years into his presidency.
Anyone can keep questioning something to create the appearance someone has something to hide once they've told them to pound sand.
CunningStunts
I changed my middle-name to Freeones
HM, you know I tend to agree on this pseudo-issue, but it won't go away, and he is looking like he is hiding something. Why not just put up to shut them up?:dunno:
TheDiamondStudd
Is way uglyer than his Avatar
Obama is power-crazy and doesn't want anyone delving into his past. In time this man will be a supreme dictator; he's a communist.
lurkingdirk
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Ulysses31
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Are you even supposed to have dictators in communism:dunno: I always thought they were reserved for fascist govts or military juntas :1orglaugh
Hot Mega
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Again, to whom??? He theoretically has demonstrated the relevant facts to the fact checkers. What specifically would you have him do (IF he was even inclined to continued on lending the issue credibility)??
lurkingdirk
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Hey, in the USA we can do whatever the fuck we want. Don't you fucking tell us that we can't call our leader the American Communist Dictator. You keep that shit up, and we'll have to bomb you back into the fourth century.
:hybrid:
Ulysses31
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Kind of like the Mexican staring frog of Southern Sri Lanka :1orglaugh
http://www.southparkstudios.co.uk/clips/sp_vid_150479/
Corrected for accuracy!
In all fairness, nothing that Obama could have produced would have been sufficient to the "Birthers" because it's not really about where he was born...it's because he is BLACK, and it is their worst nightmare realized! They can't even be honest about it. The Clinton's are about as dirty as they come...does anyone really think they wouldn't have forced him out of the election during the Democratic Primary had he been ineligible based on his place of birth? I mean come on!
I know I was born in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania and at Polyclinic Hospital on March 18, 1972. However, I can't actually prove that other than by providing documents from the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania (birth certificate, etc.), which only support the report from the hospital. I mean the Commonwealth doesn't even REALLY know where and when I was born when you seriously think about it. However, if someone wanted to doubt the validity of the documents, they could. I mean, come on, none of us can actually prove where and when we were born beyond ALL doubt. I'll give a million dollars to anyone who can prove to me where they were born beyond ALL doubt (not a REASONABLE doubt)...it can't be done! I mean what standard of proof would ever be sufficient to satisfy EVERYBODY? It can't be done either! Seeing that the "birthers" are such a small, yet annoying minority, you would never get them to come around and act rationally...like I said, it's not REALLY about where he was born anyway!
So, what is the point in all of this bs? I mean one schmuck in Congress was ignorant enough to think that the "collectable" Birth Certificate that you get from the hospital with the baby's foot prints and all, was an "official birth certificate," which...DUHHHH, it is not! The whole thing is beyond ludicrous!
At the end of the day, I would respect people if they would just come clean and admit that they can't stand the fact that we have a black President. And I have no respect for anyone in Washington who would sit silent to pander to a bunch of irrational retards (and racists), when they are smart enough to know the truth! In Trump's case, he is just a tool trying to get free press for his inevitable failed run for the White House!
CunningStunts
I changed my middle-name to Freeones
You had me until right there... I think actual "racists" account for <2%. Most people that loathe BHO do so because of his politics and hypocrisy, and still would whether he was black, white, or plaid. :2 cents:
I will admit that race isn't the only factor...I just have to believe that it is a contributing factor when I see the ones who seem to actually "hate" him. I am a Democrat, but even I do not agree with everything he does....far from it! From my vantage point, he panders far too much (often to those who would never support him), often at the expense of his own agenda.
In fairness though, it's quite hard to view a predominantly Caucasian movement (99%+) without thinking something racial is behind it to some degree.
Surprisingly, though I wouldn't agree with them, I can actually respect someone who is admittedly racist...if for no other reason, because they are at least honest. I just find it funny that, only when we have our first black President, then proving where he was born beyond ALL doubt becomes an issue.
And yes, I am as white as the driven snow myself! Ha ha ha!
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