Donald Trump

[BusterLoads]

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At this point in the game, why would anybody believe or even take seriously for a second ANYTHING Trump says? He's right up there with Rush Limbaugh. Two laughable idiots that haven't a fucking clue what anything is.

 

[LunaMo]

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I bet Trump will get the votes, people like his confidence

 

[Jack Davenport]

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I wonder how much humor Trump would find in the situation if he was the one that was a prisoner of war for years and and everybody else found hilarity in it.

I might suggest that Trump try that prisoner of war stuff himself to better criticize somebody else in that situation, but lets get real, somebody as pampered, gutless, and soft as Trump would crack in a day under those circumstances.

Ah, yes the lefties love McCain that is unless you have to vote for him. He could have chosen somebody other than Palin as his running mate and you still wouldn't have voted for him. At least Trump made his money the old fashioned way and didn't marry it. Let's be honest here, McCain was valuable to the NVC and he was probably the least likely to die in captivity than any of them considering his family connections.

 

[MMMariah]

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They love his belligerence and his ego. Its going to be a very interesting year to come. I always bitched about the election cycle being too long but this time I'm VERY happy about it.

 

[MMMariah]

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Trump made his money the old fashioned way? You mean by having it handed to him by his daddy?????

 

[Jack Davenport]

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Trump made his money the old fashioned way? You mean by having it handed to him by his daddy?????

Yeah, the old fashioned way, took his dad's business and expanded into Manhattan and become a billionaire, took risks. His dad told him to stay out of Manhattan. His dad was wrong.

 

[MMMariah]

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So that's your idea of the old fashioned way to make your money? You serious dude? That's like when Romney said about people not happy working for wages, "Just borrow $40,000 from your parents and start your own business!" as if everyone's parents just have $40k lying around to hand out.

Trump was handed a fortune. He never had to struggle. They always say its easy gambling with someone else's money. And you seriously wonder why your party is dying? Its this way of thinking that a HUGE majority of Americans find appalling and unrealistic.

 

[Jack Davenport]

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So that's your idea of the old fashioned way to make your money? You serious dude? That's like when Romney said about people not happy working for wages, "Just borrow $40,000 from your parents and start your own business!" as if everyone's parents just have $40k lying around to hand out.

Trump was handed a fortune. He never had to struggle. They always say its easy gambling with someone else's money. And you seriously wonder why your party is dying? Its this way of thinking that a HUGE majority of Americans find appalling and unrealistic.

He could have lost Fred Trump's business had his ventures not paid off. He took millions and turned it into billions. He can't help the family he was born into, his dad obviously taught him well which is what all parents want their children to do., take the ball and roll with it and build upon it . Give the same opportunity to Obama or Clinton and they end up without a pot to piss in.

As for my party, it is dying because of fuckers like McCain. But there is a groundswell of resistance growing to the leftist policies that have reared It's head just in the past year. People are worried about their future, stagnant economy, terrorism making its way to our shores, wave of illegal immigrants and flooding our country with people that do not want to assimilate.. I predict the biggest turnout of conservative voters in 2016 since 1980. You have about 14 months to keep proclaiming we are finished, for your sake, you better hope we are because if that doesn't happen, starting on November 8 2016 you are never going to hear the end of it . I am meeting fed up people everyday. People that bought into Obama's bullshit and regret voting for him . I feel very encouraged about our chances the next go round. Very encouraged

 

[Rey C.]

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Trump should've stuck to criticizing McCain as a senator instead of going back to his annapolis days and certainly not his war record. McCain was a hero the moment he put on the uniform and put his life on the line serving this country. And his conduct while in captivity further exemplified that.

:thumbsup: :hatsoff:

Exactly. Trump should stick to the here & now, not childishly going back in time and criticizing the military record of a man who voluntarily went to war for his country - especially since Donald Trump was a draft dodger, who received four student deferments and one medical deferment. Yes, it's true that he had, as he now claims, a high draft number by '69. And the main reason it was so high was because daddy and daddy's friends kept him out of the pool for so long (1964-1969).

Whether you agree with him or not on today's issues, never criticize a man who put on the uniform and fought, when you were afraid to put on the uniform and fight. My uncle is pretty conservative and he was in the 82nd Airborne just before Vietnam got hot. So I asked him what he thought of Trump's comments. My uncle is about 6 years older than Trump. But he said he knew he could still break his jaw with one punch. I have no doubt that more than a few other veterans (liberal, conservative and independent) feel the same way.

As I've said on here many times, back in the '80's, I was a real fan of Trump and his real estate accomplishments. I felt that I was bold in what I was doing and I liked reading about others, who I considered to be bold in their business moves. But increasingly, he's become a loud-mouthed fool who just shoots his mouth off, as if the wires that go from his brain to his mouth have become disconnected.

 

[Ace Boobtoucher]

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Again, this whole thing sucks. But there is something funny about people who jumped all over McCain in '08 straining at their leash to attack Trump in defense of McCain.

 

[Rey C.]

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As someone who would have voted for McCain in 2000, and only "turned on him" when he selected that chattering half-wit from Alaska in 2008, any issue I've had with him was based on policy and judgment. When he corrected that old redneck woman at one of his town hall meetings, when she went on a rant about Obama being a "secret Muslim", I gained more respect for him. Whether I agree or disagree with him on various issues, as politicians go (relatively speaking), I see John McCain as a man of honor. I cannot say that about Donald Trump.

Again, Trump was a draft dodger who was sitting in the peanut gallery constructed by his rich daddy, while McCain was flying missions over Vietnam and then lost his freedom for years. So Trump needs to not go there. I don't take him seriously anyway, because I already know so much about him. But by attacking a veteran, he'll lose even some of the follow-the-leader mouth-breathers that are currently under the spell of his cult of personality.

 

[pool_hustler]

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As someone who would have voted for McCain in 2000, and only "turned on him" when he selected that chattering half-wit from Alaska in 2008, any issue I've had with him was based on policy and judgment. When he corrected that old redneck woman at one of his town hall meetings, when she went on a rant about Obama being a "secret Muslim", I gained more respect for him. Whether I agree or disagree with him on various issues, as politicians go (relatively speaking), I see John McCain as a man of honor. I cannot say that about Donald Trump.

Damn, Rey. On every single point above I felt and feel the same way. Appreciate that you expressed it in better and more concise words than I could have.
:hatsoff:

 

[Jack Davenport]

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As someone who would have voted for McCain in 2000, and only "turned on him" when he selected that chattering half-wit from Alaska in 2008, any issue I've had with him was based on policy and judgment. When he corrected that old redneck woman at one of his town hall meetings, when she went on a rant about Obama being a "secret Muslim", I gained more respect for him. Whether I agree or disagree with him on various issues, as politicians go (relatively speaking), I see John McCain as a man of honor. I cannot say that about Donald Trump.

Again, Trump was a draft dodger who was sitting in the peanut gallery constructed by his rich daddy, while McCain was flying missions over Vietnam and then lost his freedom for years. So Trump needs to not go there. I don't take him seriously anyway, because I already know so much about him. But by attacking a veteran, he'll lose even some of the follow-the-leader mouth-breathers that are currently under the spell of his cult of personality.

What I put in bold is mostly correct, and while I feel Rey is being consistant, Trump is actually talking about issues that resonate with concerned voters so it is a little more than the platitudes that ushered Obama into the White House. I find it humorous that pool hustler says he agrees with you when Obama epitomizes the cult of personality.

 

[Rey C.]

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Obama said some stuff that the voters wanted to hear. More people liked what he said and chose him over Hillary and then over McCain.

Trump is saying some stuff that the voters want to hear. More people like what he's saying and are choosing him over the balance of the GOP field.

Both are rather charismatic. And so, both have relied, or are relying, on a cult of personality. I don't know how to gauge to what degree either could be measured in that respect. But it certainly seems to be true. The only difference I see is that Obama really wanted to be President. I don't think Donald Trump really wants to be President... not if he has to give up control of his business interests, which he would.

In the case of Trump, maybe somewhat like Obama, but even more so, his supporters seem to be believing his words, despite a whole host of past actions that are contrary to what he is saying now.

 

[Jack Davenport]

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Hmmm. ..kinda like Obama's previous associations. Not hawking Trump, but I would definitely vote for him if he won the nom over pants suit. We know she is Obama's lackey. At least with Trump, his ego is huge enough that he would try not to fail.

 

[Ace Boobtoucher]

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Does being a POW excuse forty plus years of being an asshole? When Clinton ran in '92 or rather when he was in office (I'm not sure), Sen McCain told this joke on the Senate floor:

Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly?
Janet Reno is her father.

McCain's personal attacks on the Clinton family went so far as to call their marriage a sham (Which is hilarious, considering the source); calling Hilldebeast an adulterous lesbian and several other things that I cannot recall at this time.

POW/hero status aside, the man is a toxic mess. If Trump had just stuck to how shitty McC has been for America instead of impugning his service record this would likely not be an issue. Some things are sacrosanct. But it's not like Trump allowed four people to die in Libya and lied and covered it up.

 

[Ace Boobtoucher]

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[TheDiamondStudd]

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McCain is rubbish as a senator and calling people "crazies" is downright ridiculous. Was Trump right to say he wasn't a war hero? I won't give an opinion but I will say that more divisions will happen in the GOP.

We cannot have Mrs Clinton as president

 

[Rey C.]

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Donald J. Trump: a real conservative. A conservative's conservative.

Trump, who announced his plans to run at an appearance in New York on Tuesday, vowed to impose 35 percent taxes on imported Ford vehicles and parts coming from the new Mexican plant.

Trump said he would call Ford CEO Mark Fields — whom he identified only as “the head of Ford” — to explain the “bad news.”

“Let me give you the bad news: every car, every truck and every part manufactured in this plant that comes across the border, we’re going to charge you a 35 percent tax — OK? — and that tax is going to be paid simultaneously with the transaction,” Trump said.

Singling out one new auto plant for punitive taxes would almost certainly not be legal under American law. Companies are free to build plants where they want.

Trump's 2011 book, "Time to Get Tough": proposal to place a 20 percent tariff on all imported goods.

The Democratic recipients of Trump’s donations make up what looks like a Republican enemies list, including former senator Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.), Sen. John F. Kerry (Mass.), Rep. Charles B. Rangel (N.Y.), Sen. Charles E. Schumer (N.Y.) and the late liberal lion Edward M. Kennedy (Mass.).

The biggest recipient of all has been the Democratic Senate Campaign Committee of New York, which has taken in more than $125,000 from Trump and his companies. Overall, Trump has given nearly $600,000 to New York state campaigns, with more than two-thirds going to Democrats.

Trump said in 1999 — when he was flirting with a presidential rub on the Reform Party ticket — that the U.S. should make health care an entitlement and that coverage should be universal.

“I would put forward a comprehensive health care program and fund it with an increase in corporate taxes,” Trump said at the time.

Gullible GOP'ers or Trump is better at this game than anyone I can think of? :dunno:

 

[Supafly]

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Trump will continue to say everything that he feels has the biggest impact on potential voters. He lknows well it is the tough talk and the stance of "never back down" that draws the base the most to him. Plus he transmits the main issue: He owns himself. That will propably make the biggest difference.

I think in the debates, he will really cut loos on the competition.