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Ex-Murdoch aide Brooks arrested; Police chief out

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...is what should happen to ends justify means asshats....:hatsoff:
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LONDON (AP) — Rebekah Brooks, Rupert Murdoch's former British newspaper chief, was arrested Sunday on suspicion of phone hacking and bribing police, and the escalating scandal shaking Murdoch's global media empire also claimed the job of London's police chief.

The arrest of the 43-year-old Brooks, often described as a surrogate daughter to the 80-year-old Murdoch, brought the British police investigations into the media baron's inner circle for the first time.

Hours later, the resignation of Britain's most senior police officer, Paul Stephenson, who quit over his links to an arrested former editor at the same Murdoch's tabloid that Brooks once edited, was the latest shock in a scandal engulfing Britain's political and media elite.

Brooks' arrest came only 48 hours before she, Rupert Murdoch and his son James were to be grilled by U.K. lawmakers investigating widespread lawbreaking at Murdoch's now-defunct News of the World tabloid. It also raises the possibility that Murdoch's old friend Les Hinton, who resigned Friday as publisher of The Wall Street Journal, or his 38-year-old son and heir apparent, James, could be next.

Cuff'd n stuff'd at link....
http://news.yahoo.com/ex-murdoch-aide-brooks-arrested-police-chief-192102972.html
 

Rey C.

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Dang! Our man Ruppie is running out of fall guys (and gals). Maybe Glenn Beck can get his job back at Fox if he'll agree to take the next bullet... so Prince James can keep his freedom? :dunno:
 

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News Corp scandal divides US along party lines

The battle over Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation is splitting American politics along party lines, with senior Democrats calling for investigations into the company while some senior Republicans play down the crisis.

Allegations that News International reporters may illegally have attempted to obtain the phone numbers of 9/11 victims have prompted an FBI probe into the company, which this week launched a preliminary investigation into the allegations. But a backlash has begun, focusing on the source of the claim: a single story in the Daily Mirror.

The former Republican presidential candidate Senator John McCain has criticised the decision to investigate, saying there is little evidence so far that the problem of phone hacking had spread to the US and the probe was unjustified. "It seems to me that this is a British issue that needs to be resolved first," he told Sky News. "I've heard of no evidence or allegation yet of anything being done in the United States of America."

His defence is significant not only because he is a senior Republican but also because he has criticised News Corp in the past. In 2001, he publicly questioned its plans to take over the satellite television service DirecTV, citing concerns over media consolidation.

On Saturday, the Washington Post criticised the Mirror report, saying it "appears to be based on a shaky foundation. The Mirror names no specific sources in its reporting, and it relies on a single anonymous second-hand source for its account."

^^:1orglaugh:rofl2::rofl2: Uh, isn't that the staple of Faux's sourcing methods whenever they feel the need to create 'news'? (Talk about irony, a News Corp news outfit is criticizing The Mirror for relying on single, anonymous second-hand sources..:cool::o)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/16/newscorp-scandal-splits-american-politicians
 

om3ga

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Rebekah Brooks was arrested "by appointment".
All very convenient: resign from News Intl on Friday before getting nicked. And for the more cynical among us, getting arrested will make it very difficult for her to comment about the phone hacking (Brooks was supposed to appear at Tuesday's Culture, Media and Sport Select Committee, to answer MPs questions on the scandal).
 

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Rebekah Brooks was arrested "by appointment".
All very convenient: resign from News Intl on Friday before getting nicked. And for the more cynical among us, getting arrested will make it very difficult for her to comment about the phone hacking (Brooks was supposed to appear at Tuesday's Culture, Media and Sport Select Committee, to answer MPs questions on the scandal).

I suppose if she's guilty of any wrongdoing it's better that she's answering to the cops and justice system (If I have the understanding of this correct) than some committee...
 

Rey C.

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Now the assistant police commissioner has resigned. Wow! Apparently the Brits are different. Here in the U.S., we can get caught with a body in the trunk of our car or a bag of coke in our pocket, and we'll go to our grave claiming, "I didn't know nuffin' about dat!"

Also, have a question for the UK members on here. Since Rebekah Brooks is going to appear before a panel of some sort before she appears in criminal court, is there something similar to our 5th Amendment there (the right not to answer questions and incriminate yourself), or is she obliged to answer the panel's questions no matter what???

Thanks.
 

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Is there something similar to our 5th Amendment there (the right not to answer questions and incriminate yourself), or is she obliged to answer the panel's questions no matter what???

Thanks.

That's a good question!
 
this is getting nasty ! kudos though to the Guardian newspaper for taking this by the horns -- and no letting go ...
 

D-rock

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Now the assistant police commissioner has resigned. Wow! Apparently the Brits are different. Here in the U.S., we can get caught with a body in the trunk of our car or a bag of coke in our pocket, and we'll go to our grave claiming, "I didn't know nuffin' about dat!"

Then again, listening to the police chief trying (not very successfully in my opinion) to proclaim this integrity on a news clip yesterday pretty much reminded me of our politicians and shows everybody they are pretty much the same everywhere.
 

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I think it's bad that Murdoch can't go to jail

Because, you know, too many politicians involved in his actions :mad:
 

Rey C.

Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
Now the assistant police commissioner has resigned. Wow! Apparently the Brits are different. Here in the U.S., we can get caught with a body in the trunk of our car or a bag of coke in our pocket, and we'll go to our grave claiming, "I didn't know nuffin' about dat!"

Also, have a question for the UK members on here. Since Rebekah Brooks is going to appear before a panel of some sort before she appears in criminal court, is there something similar to our 5th Amendment there (the right not to answer questions and incriminate yourself), or is she obliged to answer the panel's questions no matter what???

Thanks.

That's a good question!

I've tried to find an answer. The best I've done so far is to find a Forbes article that asked a similar question.

From what I can tell from quickly reading this Forbes article, within the British legal system there isn't really a "5th Amendment" as such, and theoretically, a person WOULD have to answer questions from Parliament. But in practice, the requirements aren't upheld.


Why only "in theory"?

Because the last time any non-Member of Parliament was actually imprisoned for contempt of Parliament was 1880.

"Basically, it never happens," says Béar. In 1999, he continues, a House of Commons committee recommended that Parliament abolish its power to imprison non-MPs and replace it with the power to fine them -- a sanction that the body might feel more comfortable exercising. But the recommendation was never acted upon, so Parliament's only power to enforce a contempt order -- other than by symbolic reprimand -- remains the one that, in modern times, it never resorts to. (The last major stand-off of this type, according to Lavender and Béar, involved, ironically, the sons of Murdoch's late rival publisher, Robert Maxwell, who ran the Mirror Group of newspapers. Ian and Kevin Maxwell refused to answer a select committee's questions in 1992 about alleged misappropriation of company pension funds, but they suffered no real punishment other than public humiliation.)

"There is a convention that Parliament respects the judiciary," says Béar. "MPs accept in theory that they shouldn't encroach unnecessarily on the workings of the judicial and criminal justice system." There is also recognition that law enforcement officials leading criminal investigations would prefer that politicians butt-out to the extent possible, so that matters can proceed logically and methodically, rather than being subject to tactically unwise decisions motivated by emotion, impulse, politics, or grandstanding.
Finally, there is some real danger that Parliament's questions could legally derail later cases that might be brought, even against defendants other than these witnesses.

"There is a risk," says Béar, "that somebody would be compelled to answer a question which they couldn't have been compelled to answer at a police inquiry or in a court of law" because of Parliament's power to override evidentiary privileges. That fact "might later be relied upon as a basis for having the criminal trial stopped," he continues, on the theory that the charges were "unfairly brought," or that they involved an "abuse of process." Even though Parliamentary testimony can't later be admitted into evidence, it can lead investigators to other evidence, which defense lawyers might later argue was tainted by the extrajudicial means used to unearth it.

A very rough analogy for U.S. readers might be what happened to the prosecution of Colonel Oliver North, who was forced, under a grant of immunity, to testify in Congressional hearings concerning the Iran/Contra affair in 1987. Later, North was convicted of criminal charges stemming from the affair, but his conviction was thrown out on appeal in 1990, in part because his trial might have been indirectly tainted by the forced testimony he gave before Congress, even though the testimony itself was never introduced against him.

What's the bottom line then? What should we expect Tuesday?
Nobody is apt to end up in shackles under Big Ben. Expect, rather, a "loose and unsatisfying discussion," Béar predicts, at which the witnesses will "take a cautious line on what information could undermine other investigations."
The committee, in turn, will probably raucously condemn the witnesses' vague and oblique responses but, in the end, acquiesce in them.

P.S. I also just read that Max Mosley is going to donate money to the legal funds of the alleged victims of the hacking scandal. Max, the disgraced former head of the FIA, was brought down, in large part, because of News of the World articles about his "Femdom/Nazi Hooker" parties a few years back. That's pretty bad, when the son of a Nazi is taking shots at you... and (now) has the support of the people as he does it! Poor Ruppie! Going from bad to worse. :facepalm: And it couldn't be happening to finer fellow. :D
 

D-rock

I'm too lazy to set a usertitle.
I've tried to find an answer. The best I've done so far is to find a Forbes article that asked a similar question.

From what I can tell from quickly reading this Forbes article, within the British legal system there isn't really a "5th Amendment" as such, and theoretically, a person WOULD have to answer questions from Parliament. But in practice, the requirements aren't upheld.

Theoretically there is no static entrenched rights in the UK like there is with the US and it's Constitution. Basically people have no recognized inherent rights and the rights they do have are whatever the parliament says they are and wants them to be. As for what they have now and what laws they have covering that I don't know.
 
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