Fans hurt doing sundays nascar race

[The Paulinator]

who is this guy? tracks under 1/2 mile???? very slight banking????
did you really watch?
bristol is .533 of a mile and martinsville is .526 of a mile
cant think of many shorter than those

OK so around 1/2 mile. North Wilkesboro, Winston South, dirt tracks.

I beg your fucking highness forgiveness over a few dozen yards.

So Sorree your majesty owner of nascar:thefinger

no need to jump my shit, Lighten up. Frances

EDIT: Please stop using the board for personal venting. Be on the topic. Off topic posts with personalities will be deleted.

 

[anairhead999]

that guy pulled a rick bobby and it ending up hurting people. its a shame

 

[friendsofmine]

OK so around 1/2 mile. North Wilkesboro, Winston South, dirt tracks.

I beg your fucking highness forgiveness over a few dozen yards.

So Sorree your majesty owner of nascar:thefinger

no need to jump my shit, Lighten up. Frances

:thefinger your point was that there were tracks under 1/2 mile...i was just correcting you....no need to get your panties in a bunch...they might get tangled up in your man-gina

 

[The Paulinator]

Perhaps you should get your fact straight before negative repping me for

"As a note Dale Earnhardt Sr when he was alive was one the roughest dirtiest drivers on the circuit and routinely bumped people and wrecked people to win.I was never a fan of his for that reason."

Which I quoted from Friday on my Mind.

I said it wasn't the same without him....I said nothing about him being a "dirty driver"

Thank you also for making feminine references about me. I would return the favor, but I am not 12 years old either.

 

[Yankeefan21325]

again ..north wilksboro is 5/8 of a mile

I was just stating that it was a short track that was no longer around, I apoligize for not knowing I had to have the exact length of the track perfect.

 

[Member2019]

... The sport seems too simplistic to be very interesting. Just slam down on the accelerator, go as fast as you can and make a pitstop when the crew chief tells you to. I don't see a whole lot of driving skill in a Nascar driver--only nerves of steel? ...

Man, if that doesn't smack of "poor assumption." Sigh. Most spectators often don't realize what is involved with a sport.

Otherwise, as a great example, most people wouldn't discard the Offensive Line in American Football as "simple" to play, played by the "dumbest" guys on the field and of no interest.

... While dega may not take much talent to drive,nascar cars as a series is one of the most if not the most difficult to drive.Much harder than Formula one cars which use all kinds of technology not allowed in nascar.Just ask Juan Pablo Montoya if driving nascar cars is easy.

Indeed. Many Formula and other racers that have crossed will tell you that. NASCAR can be far more about feet/meters than laps, with every detail in every lap counting. There is a lot more "play" with Formula than NASCAR.

... but I'm more concerned with these tactics of bumping and "spinning." I want to watch photo finishes and passes, I don't want to see crashes...

Sigh. Cars don't "stop on a dime." The bumps and crashes are often set in motion many seconds, if not tens of seconds, before they happen, and a result in mispredicts and necessary changes than anything "purposeful."

I mean, you do drive, correct? How many times have you made assumptions on the highway at 60mph only to be incorrect, even though you're being as observant as possible?

Now imagine that 3x the speed, covering 10x the distance before you can react and change your velocity as needed. Then factor in the reality that even just "tapping on the breaks" could cost you 10 positions before you regain your former velocity, and you have no advantages in your car, how you approach curves, etc...

Welcome to NASCAR.

 

[friendsofmine]

wow i cant believe how bent out of shape some people can get....nascar today is mostly mile and a half tracks that when watching ,i find it hard to stay awake sometimes...the half mile tracks like bristol and martinsville are always great races....but the restrictor plate races are high energy,hold onto the edge of your seat,dont look away or you might miss something kinda races....the crashes are cool "eye candy" but any true race fan never wants to see anyone hurt.(drivers ,crewmembers , or fans)

 

[bustybbwlover]

first off i have to say i don't enjoy nascar. but all i hear about are the crashes, so it seems as though the fans really got what they payed for this time. seriously tho i hate nascar but nonetheless don't think those that like it should be injured....altho sometimes i know people who like nascar who i'd like to see injured....who knows where this is going

 

[D-rock]

Maybe this will usher in drastic changes to the sport? I'd start with mixing in a few tracks that actually have turns in them? The sport seems too simplistic to be very interesting. Just slam down on the accelerator, go as fast as you can and make a pitstop when the crew chief tells you to. I don't see a whole lot of driving skill in a Nascar driver--only nerves of steel?

Not only that but Daytona and Talladega are the dumbest races in all of auto racing and some of the dumbest things in all of major sporting like competition period. Not only do most of the drivers hate the race now, but those races are pretty much the biggest crapshoots in all of completive sporting like events at a major level. It makes it sad that one of them is supposed to be "Superbowl" of their sport. They might as well just draw straws between the top twenty five teams that show up to decide who wins. It would be about the same as the NFL having a Superbowl but instead of keeping a score for the end of the game the teams would meet in the middle of the field at the end and have a two out of three rock, paper, scissors competition to decide who wins the game instead of having a situation where skill and ability decide the game with a little luck thrown in. It would be about equivalent to that. Unless you just like crashes there is absolutely no reason to watch more than the last minute and a half of it.

 

[PamCarmen69]

Maybe this will usher in drastic changes to the sport?

That Carl Edwards was able to get out of that car under his own power was testimony to the drastic changes NASCAR has already made in the area of safety -- since the death of Dale Earnhardt, Sr a decade ago.

1) NASCAR just started using a new, safer car (called the Car of Tomorrow or COT) a season or two ago. It has dozens of safety improvements over the previous car used.

2) I believe every track now uses the SAFER barrier -- an energy absorbing wall that absorbs a great deal of the initial energy in a crash... enough to minimize injury to the driver.

3) The drivers all wear HANS (head and neck restraint system) devices now which prevents the whiplash effect that killed Dale Earnhardt, Sr in the 1990's. It's the thing attached to their helmets behind their heads. Simple but effective.

Many of the drivers also have their own custom fitted seats now that provides greater safety for the driver than ever before.

The remaining safety concerns for NASCAR are the fans in the stands and the dangers on pit road during pit stops. That catch fence at Talladega actually did an amazing job.

 

[Friday on my mind]

That Carl Edwards was able to get out of that car under his own power was testimony to the drastic changes NASCAR has already made in the area of safety -- since the death of Dale Earnhardt, Sr a decade ago.

1) NASCAR just started using a new, safer car (called the Car of Tomorrow or COT) a season or two ago. It has dozens of safety improvements over the previous car used.

2) I believe every track now uses the SAFER barrier -- an energy absorbing wall that absorbs a great deal of the initial energy in a crash... enough to minimize injury to the driver.

3) The drivers all wear HANS (head and neck restraint system) devices now which prevents the whiplash effect that killed Dale Earnhardt, Sr in the 1990's. It's the thing attached to their helmets behind their heads. Simple but effective.

Many of the drivers also have their own custom fitted seats now that provides greater safety for the driver than ever before.

The remaining safety concerns for NASCAR are the fans in the stands and the dangers on pit road during pit stops. That catch fence at Talladega actually did an amazing job.

Actually the changes started well before the death of Dale Sr.It was much more prompted by Bobby Allison's crash at dega in 1987 where much like Edwards crash except Allison was going over 200mph he climbed the fence and several spectators were injured.That led to the cars being slowed with smaller carburetors and then restrictor plates and also the significant beefing up of the fence you mention.
As to Dale Sr and his wreck it was well known he did not like all that restraining safety equipment including even the seat belts and was known to wear them loosely.A torn seat belt was found in his car after the wreck.To be honest watching that race (and I was at the time) I thought he would not even be seriously injured much less killed in the wreck.I think his shunning things like tight belts and other available safety equipment contributed to his death.
But you are right some changes did take place just due to Dale like things like head restraints being mandatory not voluntary.But some would have and were going to happen anyway,the sport has come a long way sometimes only after tragedys.Dale was by no means 1st star to die and bring on changes.Fireball Roberts died after being burned horribly in the early 60s.In those days the drivers didn't even have fire suits and many just wore T-shirts when driving and they wore just the lap seat belts with crappy helmets.

 

[Vanilla Bear]

Enough of the flaming! CLOSED!