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Federal Officials Send 4-Year-Old U.S. Citizen Back To Guatemala

CunningStunts

I changed my middle-name to Freeones
Not to me. Fuck the rest of the world. I don't want to be Canada, Britain, Germany or any other country. America is different because we're supposed to be. And what keeps me from being just as unsympathetic to your parents, grandparents or whoever it was that showed up here one day, with all their possessions in a bag? This is what slays me on the immigration issue. As far as I'm concerned, this little girl is every bit the same American that you and I are.

And it may be un-PC to say, but I don't want the US becoming a second-rate banana republic.

It's funny that the same people who want to make healthcare a "right" cite the Constitution as "antiquated" because it's old, defend the 14th Amendment, written in 1868 to protect freed slaves. We don't have that problem anymore, so why keep this ridiculous law, which is contributing to the demise of us all? Again, we are beyond broke, we can no longer afford to take in millions of people.

And BTW, even France has a requirement for its citizens to serve in the military... and we call them "soft." :rolleyes:
 

TheOrangeCat

AFK..being taken to the vet to get neutered.
Oops, I forgot our Canadian friends may have the same flawed system... can someone confirm?

Look, the idea is that to one should not be BORN a citizen of a state. Citizenship comes with benefits AND responsibilities, and it must be earned, as it is in most industrialized countries. After all, doesn't it make logical sense that in order to participate in government you should have a stake in the country? Should someone who contributes nothing get to vote to take from those who do just because they were fortunate enough to be born on US soil?:dunno:

Our retarded system has sprouted a full fledged industry called "birth tourism." Is that not a sign that something is wrong??

Actually the system here in Canukia is pretty hard balls ... they make it laboriously difficult to get in. I read recently that for many years, the Government has failed to meet their own annual quota for immigration and Citizenship approvals, so something is going right with the immigration system up here: although it is only a little bit of right in an otherwise utterly cluster-fucked system.
 

CunningStunts

I changed my middle-name to Freeones
Actually the system here in Canukia is pretty hard balls ... they make it laboriously difficult to get in. I read recently that for many years, the Government has failed to meet their own annual quota for immigration and Citizenship approvals, so something is going right with the immigration system up here: although it is only a little bit of right in an otherwise utterly cluster-fucked system.

You can take some of ours! :D

I'm admiring Canada more and more these days...
 

rock hard

Stick with Freeones
My take after reading the Huff Post article:

Her dad was afraid to go get her...because he is here illegally, feared deportation, and then concocted the story about not understanding the CBP officer because the officer only spoke English. He snuck in here 5 years ago...learn the fucking language!!

So their options should be...yes...your daughter can stay cause being born here she is considered a citizen of this country.....but being here illegally her parents must go back to Guatemala.

Not really a great choice for them....but that's a punch on their tough shit card for not coming here legally!! :2 cents:
 

bob_dole4

Myth 1: Men want sex more than women
Maybe we should look seriously at raising the bar for "citizenship." After all, we are the last Western industrialized country left that still uses the archaic "birth rite" citizenship. :

Wrong. Both Canada and Britain have birthright citizenship, so long as the child or the parent was born in said country.
 

Ulysses31

I'm too lazy to set a usertitle.
Wrong. Both Canada and Britain have birthright citizenship, so long as the child or the parent was born in said country.

I don't believe Britain does. If a non-British woman has a child whilst in Britain on holiday or on a short term work visa I don't believe that child would become a British citizen. Otherwise people from all other the world would come here on year long tourist/work visas and then have a child whilst in the country, whether it can be given at the govts discretion I don't know :dunno:
 

Facetious

Moderated
From huffyopolous editorial column:
"In theory, U.S. immigration law is supposed to be based on a family unity concept, yet the way our immigration law looks today, families are really being torn apart much more than being kept together," Brané said. "That fundamental principle of our immigration tradition has been lost."


But . . . but . . . I thought that it takes a village? :confused: :dunno:

To hell with the family values! We want wards of state!

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CunningStunts

I changed my middle-name to Freeones
Wrong. Both Canada and Britain have birthright citizenship, so long as the child or the parent was born in said country.

If you had read the thread, I corrected that and included Canada, though per a Canadian, it's not as easy to immigrate there. :cool:
 
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