French parliament to consider burka ban

[DreamSparrow]

From another forum, a woman who lived in Iran.

Your 'friend from another forum' should study Iranian penal codes then, because a person using that excuse for rape in Iran would receive the death penalty.

 

[wildenglishgal1984]

easy fellas
should be equal for everyone. if people cannot express themselves by burkas, then surely the same should apply for tattoos and so on ?
xoxo

 

[Dawn]

There is no clash at all, only the illusion of one being propagated for purely populist political ends.

Really?

The same should apply to every religion. Jews should be free to wear the yarmulke, Sikhs should be free to wear the turban, Rastafarians should be free to wear the tam, and Christians should be free to wear the crucifix.

None of these symbols is in contradiction with other rights given by the french constitution. So back to my argument about the clash of rights and the necessity to restrict some rights that infrige other rights.

The cultural and religious meaning of the burka is problematic, whatever is your position regarding it. Reducing the debate around the burka on the freedom of choice basis is an oversimplification of something blatantly a lot more complex.

If i see, one day, a huge manifestation organised by women to be allowed to wear the burka, i will change my mind.

Untill then, i will keep asking myself questions about woman wearing a symbol of their inferiority towards men in a society according equal rights to men and women...

 

[DreamSparrow]

Really?

Yes.

None of these symbols is in contradiction with other rights given by the french constitution.

Neither is the Burka.

The cultural and religious meaning of the burka is problematic, whatever is your position regarding it. Reducing the debate around the burka on the freedom of choice basis is an oversimplification of something blatantly a lot more complex.

Once again, laicite - keep religion out of government, and government out of religion. How is this very French principle difficult to understand? The government has no business determining the religious meanings of particular types of dress.

If i see, one day, a huge manifestation organised by women to be allowed to wear the burka, i will change my mind.

By manifestation, perhaps you mean the widespread protests that took place in France when it was banned in the classroom.

Untill then, i will keep asking myself questions about woman wearing a symbol of their inferiority towards men in a society according equal rights to men and women...

Once again, you're repeating an assumption without proving it, when you've been questioned on it. How is the burka a symbol of inferiority? The Islamic basis for it is modesty, just as in the other faiths I mentioned.

I've already said that if someone in their family/community is FORCING them to wear it, that has no place in a Western country. If they CHOOSE to wear it, it is no-one's business except their own, and the government should not FORCE them to remove it.