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Greatest sportsman ever (in any sport)?

marquis2

If I had a my Freeones account, I would have just gotten 25 points!
don bradman begs to differ. infact it's not even close. bradman's domination of cricket pisses on jordan and woods domination from a great height.

as for the boxing nominations, there are weight divisions outside the heavys. the P4P greatest title should fall to one of sam langford, harry greb, sugar ray or henry armstrong. the likes of ali, marciano and louis don't deserve a mention as far as that title goes.

Agreed.To be up there you have to DOMINATE the sport , to be so far above the rest that they look ordinary in comparison.It isn't enough to be like Tiger Woods, just a little better than other golfers .To dominate golf you would have to consistently beat the opposition by several holes in most matches over a period of years.For it to be expected every time that you will win easily.
 

ChefChiTown

The secret ingredient? MY BALLS
Walter Payton is the greatest sportsman of any sport. The Man of the Year award is named after him in the NFL because he was such a great sportsman, on and off the field.
 

E-Ann-Hilden

I changed my middle-name to Freeones
Walter Payton is the greatest sportsman of any sport. The Man of the Year award is named after him in the NFL because he was such a great sportsman, on and off the field.

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EarvGotti

I'm touching myself right now!
Lebron James!! That guy is a monster. 6'8 and 250 plus pounds. Name any other basketball player that has the athletic ability of Lebron?(Besides MJ)
 

bodie54

If FreeOnes was a woman, I'd marry her!
Mike Tyson

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OK I'm laughing because I know you have to be joking. Nobody could seriously argue that Mike Tyson is even in the conversation for greatest sportsman ever. Greatest freak show, maybe. Most famous cannibal, perhaps. But greatest sportsman? :rofl:

It isn't enough to be like Tiger Woods, just a little better than other golfers .

Considering the nature of golf, that "just a little bit better", when exerted on a consistent basis, is all but (if not completely) synonymous with domination.

To dominate golf you would have to consistently beat the opposition by several holes in most matches over a period of years.For it to be expected every time that you will win easily.

Woods is favored to win every time he tees it up. Obviously you don't understand the sport well. So be it.
 

marquis2

If I had a my Freeones account, I would have just gotten 25 points!
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Yes-but was he SO far ahead of the rest?To compare him with Bradman his statistics would be out of reach.
In cricket a bat averaging 40 would get into any national team in the world, by 50 you are a considered to be a great player and very, very few ever reached 60 in the history of the game.Bradman had an average of 99.96 over a career lasting 20 years at international level.And this at a time of unprotected pitches and bodyline bowling too.
 

marquis2

If I had a my Freeones account, I would have just gotten 25 points!
:rofl:
OK I'm laughing because I know you have to be joking. Nobody could seriously argue that Mike Tyson is even in the conversation for greatest sportsman ever. Greatest freak show, maybe. Most famous cannibal, perhaps. But greatest sportsman? :rofl:



Considering the nature of golf, that "just a little bit better", when exerted on a consistent basis, is all but (if not completely) synonymous with domination.



Woods is favored to win every time he tees it up. Obviously you don't understand the sport well. So be it.

I've followed the sport for a long time.He is certainly a great player but how would he compare with great players of the past? Domination is when your scores are so far ahead of anyone else's in the history of a game that there is a stretch of clear water between you and the next one on the list.
 

CaDDaFy

I'm having an orgasm!
Ryan Giggs
 

bodie54

If FreeOnes was a woman, I'd marry her!
I've followed the sport for a long time.He is certainly a great player but how would he compare with great players of the past?

Here are two wiki articles chronicling most of his accomplishments (individually and relative to others). And remember he's only 30 years old. Barring injury those accomplishments are certain to multiply.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_Woods
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Tiger_Woods

Domination is when your scores are so far ahead of anyone else's in the history of a game that there is a stretch of clear water between you and the next one on the list.

Following golf doesn't necessarily equate to fully understanding it. By your definition no one has ever dominated the sport for any length of time, when in fact by the realistic standards of the game there have been a few dominant players, with Tiger being the most recent. At the professional level there's a narrow difference between the excellent and the great. Just about every time a pro tees it up he's facing fields upwards of 100 other highy competent professionals under a variety of shifting conditions. To assert that slender edge as consistently as Woods has under those circumstances is as close to dominance as it gets in golf. Shoot even the other players on tour all concede he's "the man".
 

Bone

Carries lotion everywhere
americans. amazing. naming all these people that no one around the world gives a shit about.

to the majority of the world the greatest sportsman ever is either Pele or Diego Maradona. Michael Jordan was obviously the best at his sport but in world terms, he is the greatest in his sport and obviously famous, but Maradona is considered a God. Weird how different the love and fervour is in one sport compared to the rest.

who cares about a sport where you are not even allowed to use your hands?

is Maradona the God who snorts all that cocaine? i didn't know God was a cokehead :crash:
 

marquis2

If I had a my Freeones account, I would have just gotten 25 points!
Here are two wiki articles chronicling most of his accomplishments (individually and relative to others). And remember he's only 30 years old. Barring injury those accomplishments are certain to multiply.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_Woods
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Tiger_Woods



Following golf doesn't necessarily equate to fully understanding it. By your definition no one has ever dominated the sport for any length of time, when in fact by the realistic standards of the game there have been a few dominant players, with Tiger being the most recent. At the professional level there's a narrow difference between the excellent and the great. Just about every time a pro tees it up he's facing fields upwards of 100 other highy competent professionals under a variety of shifting conditions. To assert that slender edge as consistently as Woods has under those circumstances is as close to dominance as it gets in golf. Shoot even the other players on tour all concede he's "the man".

You made my point for me.At a professional level in most sports there's a narrow difference between excellent and great.Bradman's difference was massive.To put it in golfing terms if a course was par 68 and the professionals were going round in about 60 , Bradman would have been scoring around 40 , the difference was that great.He wasn't just the best of the best he was out of sight.I'll quote Wikipedia for what it's worth ;
Bradman's career Test batting average of 99.94 has been claimed to be statistically the greatest achievement in any major sport.
During a 20-year playing career at international level , Bradman consistently scored at a level that made him, in the words of former Australia captain Bill Woodfull, "worth three batsmen to Australia"
 

D-rock

I'm too lazy to set a usertitle.
You made my point for me.At a professional level in most sports there's a narrow difference between excellent and great.Bradman's difference was massive.To put it in golfing terms if a course was par 68 and the professionals were going round in about 60 , Bradman would have been scoring around 40 , the difference was that great.He wasn't just the best of the best he was out of sight.I'll quote Wikipedia for what it's worth ;
Bradman's career Test batting average of 99.94 has been claimed to be statistically the greatest achievement in any major sport.
During a 20-year playing career at international level , Bradman consistently scored at a level that made him, in the words of former Australia captain Bill Woodfull, "worth three batsmen to Australia"

You can't extrapolate something like that. As the score goes down in golf it's doesn't just get linearly more difficult. Scoring a 40 is pretty much practically almost out of the possibility for a human to do. Scoring a 40 isn't just a few times better than scoring a 60 which only happens in golf once in a great while it's more like billions of times better. Your analogy doesn’t hold up.
 
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