How Safe is your School?

[jasonk282]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,562501,00.html

Not very if this is the Safe School "Advisor".

Praises NAMBLA, North American Man/Boy Love Association, is a New York City and San Francisco-based unincorporated organization in the United States that advocates the liberalization of laws against sexual relations between adult and minor males - resolving to "end the oppression of men and boys who have freely chosen mutually consenting relationships

Wrote the forward to the book "Queering elementary education" basicly the book tells teachers how to incorporate "queer" activities for elementry children. http://www.city-journal.org/html/13_2_queering_the_schools.html

I think someone who praises Man/boy love should NOT be around children or even remotely involved with education at all.

what do you all think?

 

[Rey C.]

They're child molestation advocates. Plain & simple. I feel the same about NAMBLA as I do about the people who think it is acceptable or funny when adult female teachers molest minor children.

I have a special kind of special hate for people who harm children, the elderly and disabled people. If something "unfortunate" happens to predators like that, I say, whatyagonnado? Fugetaboutit... :dunno: I wouldn't waste 5 minutes of a cop's time to even draw the chalk line.

 

[jasonk282]

^ i'd rep you but it won't let me.

Great post. These people are sick and should be shot on site/sight.

 

[BlueBalls]

Okay I really have very little interest in this case. But I remember reading about this here earlier. So when I came upon this video I thought I might as well share it with you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dl13wARHjlE

I don't know, does this not just seem like Fox being . . . Fox?

 

[JacknCoke]

They're child molestation advocates. Plain & simple. I feel the same about NAMBLA as I do about the people who think it is acceptable or funny when adult female teachers molest minor children.

I have a special kind of special hate for people who harm children, the elderly and disabled people. If something "unfortunate" happens to predators like that, I say, whatyagonnado? Fugetaboutit... :dunno: I wouldn't waste 5 minutes of a cop's time to even draw the chalk line.

Great post I will rep if it lets me.

 

[YMIHERE]

I think this is an example of the new Mccarthyism. Bull shit fabrications based on guilt by association. Here are some facts.

Sean Hannity still wants Kevin Jennings' scalp so he can keep up with Glenn Beck.
But since his smear has been debunked about as thoroughly as a right-wing smear job ever can be, he's getting a bit, ah, desperate.
Last night he not only was still clinging desperately to the false notion that Jennings should have reported a teenager's sexual affair to authorities, but he came up with a new line of attack -- borrowed directly from the fine fools at Powerline -- claiming that Jennings, in "a 1977 speech," had praised "one of the founders of NAMBLA," a gay-rights pioneer named Harry Hay. Hannity calls him a "big supporter of NAMBLA."
As usual, the fine researchers at Media Matters have the whole story:
Power Line's Hinderaker cited Jennings' speech, NAMBLA. In an October 1 post, Power Line's John Hinderaker noted Jennings' 1997 speech and wrote: "Obama nominee Kevin Jennings actually said that the founder of NAMBLA -- the North American Man-Boy Love Association -- Harry Hay, is '[o]ne of the people that's always inspired me,' " ... Hinderaker's claim that Hay founded NAMBLA is false. As the Associated Press noted in 2002, Hay "in 1950 founded the secret network of support groups for gays known as the Mattachine Society." Hay wrote in the Gay Community News (retrieved from Nexis) in 1994, "I am not a member of NAMBLA, nor would it ever have been my inclination to be one."
Moreover, as the piece explains, Jennings' speech was part of a eulogy to Hay upon the occasion of his death, and specifically praised him for his work in the 1950s in organizing gay activists -- not for any of his later views.
Hannity must really be looking over his shoulder these days to be getting this desperate. Hey Sean, how are those ratings looking these days




http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/sean-hannitys-scalp-hunting-desperat

 

[jasonk282]

I think this is an example of the new Mccarthyism. Bull shit fabrications based on guilt by association. Here are some facts.

Sean Hannity still wants Kevin Jennings' scalp so he can keep up with Glenn Beck.
But since his smear has been debunked about as thoroughly as a right-wing smear job ever can be, he's getting a bit, ah, desperate.
Last night he not only was still clinging desperately to the false notion that Jennings should have reported a teenager's sexual affair to authorities, but he came up with a new line of attack -- borrowed directly from the fine fools at Powerline -- claiming that Jennings, in "a 1977 speech," had praised "one of the founders of NAMBLA," a gay-rights pioneer named Harry Hay. Hannity calls him a "big supporter of NAMBLA."
As usual, the fine researchers at Media Matters have the whole story:
Power Line's Hinderaker cited Jennings' speech, NAMBLA. In an October 1 post, Power Line's John Hinderaker noted Jennings' 1997 speech and wrote: "Obama nominee Kevin Jennings actually said that the founder of NAMBLA -- the North American Man-Boy Love Association -- Harry Hay, is '[o]ne of the people that's always inspired me,' " ... Hinderaker's claim that Hay founded NAMBLA is false. As the Associated Press noted in 2002, Hay "in 1950 founded the secret network of support groups for gays known as the Mattachine Society." Hay wrote in the Gay Community News (retrieved from Nexis) in 1994, "I am not a member of NAMBLA, nor would it ever have been my inclination to be one."
Moreover, as the piece explains, Jennings' speech was part of a eulogy to Hay upon the occasion of his death, and specifically praised him for his work in the 1950s in organizing gay activists -- not for any of his later views.
Hannity must really be looking over his shoulder these days to be getting this desperate. Hey Sean, how are those ratings looking these days




http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/sean-hannitys-scalp-hunting-desperat

whatever, this man told a high school sophmore to use a condom when having sex with an older man. I don't care if he is a great guy, he supports NAMBLA, discusting and should not be around/teaching children period.

It's like making Roman Polanski a teacher at an all girls junior high.

Media matters is a watchdog group for the left.

This is NOT about poltics, it's a simple moral issue.

 

[YMIHERE]

whatever, this man told a high school sophmore to use a condom when having sex with an older man. I don't care if he is a great guy, he supports NAMBLA, discusting and should not be around/teaching children period....

This is NOT about poltics, it's a simple moral issue.

He does not support NAMBLA. That is a lie. The guy in high school was of legal age to have sex in Massachusetts. So you want him not to have any sexual knowledge. Using a condom is great advice. If this was about a girl of legal age getting advice there would not be a peep about it. You don't like homosexuals. This whole think stinks of homophobia. After all homosexuality is immoral, right.

 

[jasonk282]

He does not support NAMBLA. That is a lie. The guy in high school was of legal age to have sex in Massachusetts. So you want him not to have any sexual knowledge. Using a condom is great advice. If this was about a girl of legal age getting advice there would not be a peep about it. You don't like homosexuals. This whole think stinks of homophobia. After all homosexuality is immoral, right.

I am far from homophobic. The boy was a MINOR and the man was an ADULT. If it was a girl that was a minor and a adult guy it's still gross and wrong. I am aganist Child molesting period wjeather its two guys, two girls or a girl guy its WRONG period.

The age of consent in Massachusetts is 16, as specified by Chapter 265, Section 23 of the General Laws of Massachusetts, which states:

"Whoever unlawfully has sexual intercourse or unnatural sexual intercourse, and abuses a child under sixteen years of age shall... be punished..." MGL 265-23
However, Chapter 272, Section 4 sets another age of consent at 18 when the "victim" is "of chaste life" and the perpetrator induces them.

"Whoever induces any person under 18 years of age of chaste life to have unlawful sexual intercourse shall be punished

 

[Rey C.]

My feelings about NAMBLA are a separate issue from this Kevin Jennings fellow. I'd never heard of him before this.

But in following one link, I now have a question (two actually). Was he the Executive Director of GLSEN (Gay, Lesbian and Straight Educational Network)? And what is his connection to the book, Queering Elementary Education?

Considering that the high school dropout rate nationally is somewhere around 30%, and approximately 50% in many major cities... and since the average American student fares very poorly vs. his international competitors (since that's what they are), some of what I am reading strikes me as social engineering, rather than actual education.

I don't care if a person is gay, straight or can't decide. That's for that person and his/her family to work out. So I'm not sure that I understand what this has to do with school. Well, reason #7342 for why any kid I have would go to private school.

 

[YMIHERE]

I am far from homophobic. The boy was a MINOR and the man was an ADULT. If it was a girl that was a minor and a adult guy it's still gross and wrong. I am aganist Child molesting period wjeather its two guys, two girls or a girl guy its WRONG period.

I repeat, the student was of legal age for sex. It's nobody business what he does except for the witch hunters.

 

[jasonk282]

My feelings about NAMBLA are a separate issue from this Kevin Jennings fellow. I'd never heard of him before this.

But in following one link, I now have a question (two actually). Was he the Executive Director of GLSEN (Gay, Lesbian and Straight Educational Network)? And what is his connection to the book, Queering Elementary Education?

Considering that the high school dropout rate nationally is somewhere around 30%, and approximately 50% in many major cities... and since the average American student fares very poorly vs. his international competitors (since that's what they are), some of what I am reading strikes me as social engineering, rather than actual education.

I don't care if a person is gay, straight or can't decide. That's for that person and his/her family to work out. So I'm not sure that I understand what this has to do with school. Well, reason #7342 for why any kid I have would go to private school.

He was the founder and the Executive Director of GLSTN, Gay and Lesbian independant School Teacher Network in 1990 and in 1997 changed the name to GLSEN.

He wrote the forward in the book. Queering Elementary Education: Advancing the Dialogue about Sexualities and Schooling (Curriculum, Cultures, and (Homo)Sexualities

 

[jasonk282]

"Whoever induces any person under 18 years of age of chaste life to have unlawful sexual intercourse shall be punished

Apprently you missed this law that follows the age of consent in Mass ^
Chapter 272, Section 4 sets another age of consent at 18 when the "victim" is "of chaste life" and the perpetrator induces them.

I repeat, the student was of legal age for sex. It's nobody business what he does except for the witch hunters.

 

[YMIHERE]

Apprently you missed this law that follows the age of consent in Mass ^
Chapter 272, Section 4 sets another age of consent at 18 when the "victim" is "of chaste life" and the perpetrator induces them.

No I did not miss it. If he violated the law why was he not arrested. Obviously the law "of chaste life" did not apply. Again implications based on the assumption of guilt. If you have any facts to prove your assertion please provide them. If not stop accusing people of crimes.

 

[jasonk282]

No I did not miss it. If he violated the law why was he not arrested. Obviously the law "of chaste life" did not apply. Again implications based on the assumption of guilt. If you have any facts to prove your assertion please provide them. If not stop accusing people of crimes.

http://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/massachusetts-age-of-consent-lawyers.html

Apprently there is no law that protects homosexual concut, so i guess he molested him and jennings let it go by the way side.

What is Massachusetts' Age of Consent?

Massachusetts is among the few states with different ages of sexual consent for males and females.

The age of consent for females is 16, and for males it is 18. This only applies to heterosexual conduct. Massachusetts currently has no law which addresses the age of consent for homosexual conduct.

So if there is no law to protect the child is it then sexual abuse?

 

[Rey C.]

Kind of off topic, but let me ask something to everyone reading this. If there was an organization called the North American Man/Girl Love Association (that advocated the liberalization of laws against sexual relations between adult males and minor females), how long would that last?

You can give your answer in seconds or minutes.

 

[jasonk282]

Kind of off topic, but let me ask something to everyone reading this. If there was an organization called the North American Man/Girl Love Association (that advocates the liberalization of laws against sexual relations between adult males and minor females), how long would that last?

You can give your answer in seconds or minutes.

http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cid/cac/initiatives.htm

NAMGLA Takedown

The Los Angeles Division of the FBI’s Sexual Assault Felony Enforcement (SAFE) Team investigated the website www.namgla.net. The acronym NAMGLA is meant to stand for the “North American Man Girl Love Association,” and its website served as a mechanism to advertise and directly link users to websites containing child pornography. It serviced an international community of online predators where thousands of graphic images of sexually abused children could be shared. The FBI infiltrated this online organization when it investigated one of its administrators. This administrator voluntarily gave the FBI consent to become a member of this group in an undercover capacity. SAFE Team investigators viewed approximately 30 new posted messages each day and then followed the advertised child pornography links so they could preserve evidence the links led to illicit images of child abuse. On July 25, 2006 the website www.namgla.net was shut down by the SAFE Team. At least 35 domestic subjects were identified. In addition, 49 subjects in 27 foreign countries have been identified. On July 25, 2006, the FBI coordinated the execution of 29 search warrants and six consensual interviews in 20 different states. Results of these investigations have yielded 22 confessions to possessing or distributing child pornography, as well as several arrests. Three subjects were determined to have had prior sex offenses against minors and another three subjects were found to be in possession of narcotics. International investigations have been conducted in Ecuador, Chile, Poland, Canada, Spain, Portugal, Bulgaria, and Sweden

But it's wrong to get rid of NAMBLA? People are seriously fucked up.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Man/Boy_Love_Association#Related_legal_proceedings

1. One case involved a number of men arrested by the FBI in Los Angeles and San Diego in February 2005. Seven men were charged with planning to travel to Mexico to have sex with boys, the FBI said. An eighth man was charged with distributing child pornography.[4] According to a media report,[4] the FBI believes that at least one of the arrested men is a member of NAMBLA's national leadership, a second organized the group's 2004 national convention and a third said he had been a member since the 1980s

2. Roy Radow, a self-described pedophile and member of the NAMBLA Steering Committee sometimes described as its chairman or spokesman, was arrested in 1996 for masturbating in front of a 12-year old boy

3. Alan J. Horowitz, an Orthodox Rabbi and adolescent psychiatrist, pleaded guilty in 1992 of sodomizing three boys ages seven to nine, and molesting one girl, aged 14. He had previously been convicted of molesting two boys in 1983. While in prison he wrote for the NAMBLA call newsletter

 

[YMIHERE]

http://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/massachusetts-age-of-consent-lawyers.html

Apprently there is no law that protects homosexual concut, so i guess he molested him and jennings let it go by the way side.

What is Massachusetts' Age of Consent?

Massachusetts is among the few states with different ages of sexual consent for males and females.

The age of consent for females is 16, and for males it is 18. This only applies to heterosexual conduct. Massachusetts currently has no law which addresses the age of consent for homosexual conduct.

So if there is no law to protect the child is it then sexual abuse?

You assume sexual abuse. If you kept it up you will get a letter from his lawyer like this.


http://wthrockmorton.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/jenningsretractiondemand.pdf


Could you provide documtion of your accustions of knowledge of sexual abuse or even if he knew the student was having sex.

 

[TrueTranssexual]

Ex-pupil defends Obama aide over controversial advice in 1988

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/10/02/jennings.student/

 

[TrueTranssexual]

Some people emphasize on the man/boy part as if this was somehow worse than if it was man/girl. Why? Are some people trying to suggest that it is somehow less abusive for a girl to be raped, than for a boy?
Way too many countries allow underage girls to marry adult men. Which i find it sick. Some muslims countries decapitate consensual adults who are gay, but allow a 9 year old to marry an 80+ year old man. It's crazy!