If you had your own country...

[Trident1]

F-22 is necessary as a long term option. The F-15 and -16 upgrades are only short term solutions.

The F-4 btw is a work of art, any aficionado would love to have it on their team.........like me.

 

[STDiva]

Not one mention of hockey sticks?

 

[Trident1]

Not one mention of hockey sticks?

That's for my cavalry of elephants.

 

[vodkazvictim]

F-22 is necessary as a long term option. The F-15 and -16 upgrades are only short term solutions.

The F-4 btw is a work of art, any aficionado would love to have it on their team.........like me.

F22 is not a necessary long term option at all, but rather has opened a whole new can of worms - every other country is now producing stealth fighters to rival F22.
F15 and F16 will be upgradable for a very long time, look at F15 silent Eagle for example.
F4 is a piece of shit, any afficionado would recognise that.
As a fighter it lacks agility, as a bomber it lacks endurance. It's too big and too heavy. The fact that you like such failures makes me think you should work in the US defense industry.

 

[mrtrebus]

I would have a regiment of Mr Stay Pufts

 

[BlueBalls]

You worry me. You know that?

I didn't, but thank you, that's very sweet.

Is your surname "Bush"?

I wish! A blood relation to one of the highest ranking member families in the Illuminati? My life would be set! I'd store my own piss in great glass containers and then throw them on all of the soon to be dead piss ants if I was in one last act of defiance and power before judgement day falls upon us.

Bye bye humanity. :wave2:

 

[Trident1]

F15 and F16 will be upgradable for a very long time, look at F15 silent Eagle for example.
F4 is a piece of shit, any afficionado would recognise that.
As a fighter it lacks agility, as a bomber it lacks endurance. It's too big and too heavy. The fact that you like such failures makes me think you should work in the US defense industry.

Uh dude first off this is a fantasy hypothetical thread. Mmmmmkay?

Second I dare you to tell any former Phantom Pilot or WSO that the F-4 is a pile of shit.

F-4 was a failure? Ooooooooookay Sparky.


The F-15SE is a great plane for export but not a long term replacement for what the USAF has at the moment.

P.S. I wouldn't want any Russian/Soviet pile of dung in any of my "Fantasy Let's Pretend" squadrons.:thefinger

 

[JayJohn85]

Da Banana Republic

Infantry: Gorilla's with chips in there brains, Body army and the latest in assault rifles(Erazer style)
Navy: Sharks with freakin lasers
Airforce: Pelicans in briefs, Distracts the enemy.
Intelligence Agency: Conspirist nerds, Hot savy women(A entire unit like good old cold war romania) and Natasha the sniper!

Monogamy is banned
Religion is banned except for the church of Megaton
I have a very big harim for moi
1 very big USSR intercontinental ballistic missile(Refer to Blue balls post....Gotta have a plan B)
88 body guards
Gold plated Xbox 360 and sofa.

 

[vodkazvictim]

I didn't, but thank you, that's very sweet.



I wish! A blood relation to one of the highest ranking member families in the Illuminati? My life would be set! I'd store my own piss in great glass containers and then throw them on all of the soon to be dead piss ants if I was in one last act of defiance and power before judgement day falls upon us.

Bye bye humanity. :wave2:

I am sweet... But salty at the same time ;-)

Uh dude first off this is a fantasy hypothetical thread. Mmmmmkay?

Second I dare you to tell any former Phantom Pilot or WSO that the F-4 is a pile of shit.

F-4 was a failure? Ooooooooookay Sparky.


The F-15SE is a great plane for export but not a long term replacement for what the USAF has at the moment.

P.S. I wouldn't want any Russian/Soviet pile of dung in any of my "Fantasy Let's Pretend" squadrons.:thefinger

F4 was a sales success, but it was introduced without a gun and lacking maneuvarability at low (aka dogfighting speeds). For this reason, it's a failure. Such a failure that F15,16 and 18 were developed with emphasis primarily upon dogfighting agility.
If F22 hadn't been introduced F15 wouldn't yet need replacing as everyone in the world would either be buying Su27/MiG29 variants, Typhoon or Gripen.

Russian/Soviet pile of dung? Are you aware of what happened when the west got it's paws on a MiG29? They put it up against an F16 and THE MiG WON EVERY TIME.
That's not even mentioning the fact that both MiG29 and Su27 CAN take off from rough airstrips, whereas american fighters are limited to purpose built runways (and that includes F35).
You realise that when the tech demonstrator Su37 was developed, the Russki's challenged the yanks to a mock dogfight with an F22 and the yanks declined. Know why? Because they knew it would lose.
Perhaps you should consider what happened when Indian MiG29 Baz's locked onto Pakistani air force F16s over the border - The F16s ran away.

But of course, you'd probably rather judge Russki jets on performances like the Kosovo conflict - where a MiG29 UKB trainer (that means NO RADAR) was flown without AWACS support and (quel surprise) fell victim to an F15. Don't forget that many of the Russki jets that have been downed have been flown by less experienced pilots and have often had a history of poor maintenance.

 

[Trident1]

F4 was a sales success, but it was introduced without a gun and...... whereas american fighters are limited to purpose built runways (and that includes F35).
But of course, you'd probably rather judge Russki jets on performances like the Kosovo conflict - where a MiG29 UKB trainer (that means NO RADAR) was flown without AWACS support and (quel surprise) fell victim to an F15. .

Dude have you ever heard of the F-4E.....it has a cannon under the nose.

Western aircraft can take off of highways if need be.

As for the Kosovo campaign that's a whole new issue. I'm of Serbian heritage and have hated the liberals for siding with a bunch of terrorists against Serbia back in '99.

At least the Serbs shot down an F-117.......they said the Serbs could never do it, that they were too backward.....uh huh.:thumbsup::thefinger

 

[Moonchild22]

I think I would take inspiration from Ralph Wiggum on The Simpsons.

Platform:

Immigration -- "Stranger danger!"

Government Spending -- "I only have this much moneys."

Party Politics -- "Everyone is invited to my party!"

Ethics -- "I'm Ralph Wiggum and I've been a good boy."

Foreign Relations -- "When we're mad we'll just use our words. Then the rest of the world will play nice with us. And the only boom-booms will be in our pants."

:wave:

 

[vodkazvictim]

Dude have you ever heard of the F-4E.....it has a cannon under the nose.

Western aircraft can take off of highways if need be.

As for the Kosovo campaign that's a whole new issue. I'm of Serbian heritage and have hated the liberals for siding with a bunch of terrorists against Serbia back in '99.

At least the Serbs shot down an F-117.......they said the Serbs could never do it, that they were too backward.....uh huh.:thumbsup::thefinger

Yeah I've heard of it. Can you imagine what would happen to it if it got into a dogfight with fighters designed based on the lessons learned from Vietnam; that maneuvarability is key? (EG MiG29, F16, Gripen).

F16, 15, 18 and 22 can't take off from anything but a runway. For a start they have nothing to cover their intakes in case a stone gets flicked up by the wheels. I don't recall whether they are STOL or not, but I doubt it.

Yeah, the F117 was a bit of Vietnam thinking all over again; "Our tech will make us invulnerable".
Never gonna happen.

 

[Member442]

No one would want to hurt my country we would be all hot naked chicks that love to have sex. Who would want to kill a place like that.

 

[olivertoxxin]

I would just use most of the stuff the Germans had in WWII
88's
Rocket Bars.
ME 262
Panther tank
Panzer tank
Put them in German WWII era helmets and uni then have then get the rest of my weapons with current guns,bombs ECT.
We would also be protectorates I hope I spelled that right lol. of Play With Alisa's country.

 

[unicornshunter]

If you had your own country, how would you arm it?
I've been going over some pretty poor examples of defense spending tonight and it's bought the question to mind.
This means assume your arguing a reasonably affluent country, not the richest country in the world with no non-military spending priorities!

Militia: Civilians trained for a year in national servicewith AK101s to be deployed only if the nation is invaded.

Army:
Rifle: Steyr AUG
Sniper rifle: WS2000
Anti-material Rifle: Gepard 20mm
Infantry MG: SAW
Vehicle mounted MG: Browning .50
Infantry anti tank weapon: AT4
Infantry anti air weapon: Javelin
Machine pistol: MP5
Shotgun: R870
Plus generic mortars and mines
Main battle tank: Leapard 2
APC: M113
Light multirole helicopter: Little bird
Transport helicopter: Chinook

Air force:
Trainer: Tucano
Jet trainer: Yak 30
Ground attack: Su25
Fighter: Gripen
AWACs: TU95 AWACS Variant
Strategic bomber: TU95
Light transport: Hercules
Transport: Anatonov AN12


Navy:
Coastal defense: Typhoon submarine
Global deterrant: Type 42 destroyer
Maritime Surveillance/ASW: TU95 Maritime surveilance variant

And no, I didn't get any tonight... Can you tell?

Lol, you've spent a lot of time on this one, didn't you?

I'd give everyone a plasma gun and a BFG from Doom... oh, and a homing RPG like the one from Half-Life 2

 

[pornobsession]

An army full of hot, naked women.

 

[vodkazvictim]

No one would want to hurt my country we would be all hot naked chicks that love to have sex. Who would want to kill a place like that.

I'd invade ya with an army of semen.
*cough*
I'm sorry, I just could not resist doing that any more.

 

[Member442]

I'd invade ya with an army of semen.
*cough*
I'm sorry, I just could not resist doing that any more.

That's the kind of army I want to invade my country.

 

[vodkazvictim]

That's the kind of army I want to invade my country.

I hope your enjoying tempting me... I'm going for a cold shower now. *mutters* Tease...

 

[rizwano]

my army would be using

Army:
Rifle: SAR 21
Sniper rifle: WS2000
Main battle tank: Primus
Light multirole helicopter: Super Puma
Transport helicopter: Chinook

Air force:
Trainer: Tucano
Jet trainer: Yak 30
Ground attack: F15
Fighter: Gripen
AWACs: TU95 AWACS Variant
Strategic bomber: TU95
Light transport: Hercules
Transport: Chinook


Navy:
Coastal defense: Typhoon submarine
Global deterrant: Type 42 destroyer
Maritime Surveillance/ASW: TU95 Maritime surveilance variant

Bree Olson would be in charge of the female soldiers.
Lisa Ann would be her assistant.