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Iraq

Jizm

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I'm all done now.. so 5 soldiers killed from a car bomb, 2 here, 3 there. I'd love to line each one of those fools up in a row, and send their thoughts straight to why we're there. They just don't get it, yet it's so simple, peace. That's all. Nothing more. And yes, it is that simple. The sooner they stop the suicide/car bombings, the sooner U.S.A. pulls out. Fools, if they were smart they would stop. But it all figures really, nothing new from Iraq.
 

Banana Joe

Part-time porn addict
Jizm said:
I'm all done now.. so 5 soldiers killed from a car bomb, 2 here, 3 there. I'd love to line each one of those fools up in a row, and send their thoughts straight to why we're there. They just don't get it, yet it's so simple, peace. That's all. Nothing more. And yes, it is that simple. The sooner they stop the suicide/car bombings, the sooner U.S.A. pulls out. Fools, if they were smart they would stop. But it all figures really, nothing new from Iraq.

If President Bush were smart the problem had never occurred. Nobody deserves to get killed especially not for oil.
 

jod0565

Member, you member...
Iraq will never change - there will always be those that are weak and will follow someone's word to the death. Saddam will live on and on I'm afraid, as will Bin Laden and any other terror mongers that have plagued the lives of everyone who does not agree with their beliefs. They will just have different names...
 

LetoII

Ninja > Pirate
jod0565 said:
Iraq will never change - there will always be those that are weak and will follow someone's word to the death. Saddam will live on and on I'm afraid, as will Bin Laden and any other terror mongers that have plagued the lives of everyone who does not agree with their beliefs. They will just have different names...

excuse me, but who started this fucking war in the first place ?! right, the government of the usa. no iraqi asked for "liberation" by means of tactical missiles nuking their cities. just imagine a big and powerful nation invades your country "in the name of peace and democracy" and kills thousands of your people, for absolutely NO REASON (because there are no weapons of mass destruction, there is no active link to the al-quaida). wouldn't you be pissed off ?! well, i would be, and i'd also join one of the terror-groups to fight the conquerers, because that's not terrorism, it's the only way of defence they have !!!
Banana Joe is absolutely right: this war is about nothing but money, to make the rich even richer. now who are the real terrorists ?!
 

Neromak

Sperm Donator in Training
I'm more concerned with the anti-european :bs: comming out of the U.S. lately.
 

Jizm

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Tell you what Leto, we'll let Saddam run Germany for a while. See how you like his rule. You seem to think he's a real swell fellow. But don't bother asking for help when your unable to rise up against him and he murders your family members or destroys your economy to build another palace for himself.
and i'd also join one of the terror-groups to fight the conquerers,

Knock yourself out.
 

mr336wmg

Will you help me name my penis?
Neromak said:
I'm more concerned with the anti-european :bs: comming out of the U.S. lately.

Like there has NEVER been Anti-American sentiment coming from Europe??? Come-On…

Right or wrong… this war need to be finished. My only problem with the war is that it should have been finished in 1991. Saddam should have been taken out of power, back when the ALL of Europe was sided with the United States. This current war, albeit UGLY as hell, is no different than World War II, and World War I, two wars by the way, that would have totally changed all of Europe had the United States not intervened. The only difference is, this war does not have an evil dictator marching his troops into your backyard. Back to the current war, less people have died in the year and a half of this war than died in single days of most of the past wars. Maybe my country started the war for the wrong reason. That still remains to be seen, but regardless of their reasoning, IT NEEDED TO BE DONE.
 

hinddee29

How far do you blow your load?
Back in 91 if we would of went into take him out of power
he would of used chems. We wouldn't of taken the city.
We weren't ready to fight chem warfare. We had troops there
and they knew it.

This time wasn't about oil. Iraq suported terrorist, and Bush said anyone that has ties with terrorists will be punished. Sure he didn't have ties will 9/11, but he still had ties with terrorists.
It's that simple.

hinddee29
 

futthewuck

Fact: African American men have bigger penises!
i AGREE FUCK IRAQ, BUT THERE ARE SOME GOOD PEOPLE OVER THERE, AND WE ONLY GET 5% OF OUR OIL FROM THEM BUT ON ANOTHER NOTE, THEY DO HAVE SOME ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL WOMEN OVER THERE,,,, I HAVE A NEPHEW OVER THERE, AND HE WAS TELLING ME THAT MOST OF THE CAR BOMBINGS AND OTHER SHIT IS BEING DONE BY TERRORISTS FROM OTHER COUNTRIES,, IRAN, SYRIA TO NAME A FEW :mad: :mad:
 

Goblin

I eat, sleep, and live FreeOnes!
IF it makes anyone feel better I haven't heard any anti-european stuff.

Wether its true or not most soldiers I know or have talked to feel that they are there for someone's pocket change. And they themselves know other soldiers that think the same thing.

Its a popular idea in our Military at the moment as well. True or not.
 

futthewuck

Fact: African American men have bigger penises!
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE TO FINISH IT IN 91, BUT THE NEIGHBORING COUNTRIES BEGGED US NOT TO,
 

LetoII

Ninja > Pirate
Jizm said:
Tell you what Leto, we'll let Saddam run Germany for a while. See how you like his rule. You seem to think he's a real swell fellow. But don't bother asking for help when your unable to rise up against him and he murders your family members or destroys your economy to build another palace for himself.

Knock yourself out.


dammit, i never said saddam's a "swell fellow" as you put it. of course he was a monster. but there are definitely more subtle ways to overthrow a dictator (the CIA has proved to have enough experience with it) . you don't have to nuke the whole country !!!
the us forces killed almost as many people as saddam did in ten years. now you tell me how the people in iraq are supposed to tell the difference between hussein and bush. they can't because for them there is none. and don't tell me you believe this liberation shit, like this war was an act of compassion. that's just ridiculous !!!
they could have "liberated" the iraqis a long time ago. why didn't they ??? don't tell me because the NATO wouldn't let them, because the us government doesn't give a shit about NATO (we've seen that, haven't we?!).
and suddenly (surprise, surprise) it's absolutely imperative to disarm saddam and help those poor people. are we talking fairy tales here ?! open your eyes man. do you really believe they'd send their complete army into a country fighting a war, if there wasn't any profit for them ?
you got my statement totally wrong. when i said that i would fight back like some iraqis do right now, i just wanted to point out that noone ever tries to understand those people, why they become terrorists in the first place.
and jizm, i don't need Saddam in germany, i had Ceaucescu in romania. i was born and raised in that country. i think i know a little bit better than you what it's like to live in poverty and suppression.

your turn
 

Jizm

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you don't have to nuke the whole country !!!

1) We aren't nuking the country.

the us forces killed almost as many people as saddam did in ten years.

2) I think you forgot to add in the # of people Saddam and his thug sons would have killed had he not been removed. Where is this in your calculations?

NATO wouldn't let them, because the us government doesn't give a shit about NATO

3) If NATO or the UN does not follow through on resolutions, then I feel we have a higher moral responsibility to take action. Time and time again Saddam pushed WMD inspectors out or delayed/restricted their visits with no reasonable consequences from these unions. I remember being so frustrated with the constant delay and forceful pull outs of the inspectors and just waiting for something terrible to happen. The U.S. will not tolerate countries who have something to hide or pretend as if they do. God knows we need international support regarding North Korea. But I don't see much of that from Europe.

do you really believe they'd send their complete army into a country fighting a war, if there wasn't any profit for them ?

4) Absolutely. As an example, we profited nothing from helping to defeat Nazism, but lost the lives of hundreds of thousands of our soldiers. Did we take over Germany or any European nation or sieze fortune? No. We left and continued to try and prevent other rulers from doing so (Stalin) given the circumstances.


the us forces killed almost as many people as saddam did in ten years.

5) The U.S. has used the most modern technology as best as possible to try and prevent civilian deaths. You speak as if we have no regard for life and just drop bombs with no consideration. It's a terrible thing to have killed so many and it is something the U.S. and other coalition forces have tried to keep to an absolute minimum.

i don't need Saddam in germany, i had Ceaucescu in romania. i was born and raised in that country. i think i know a little bit better than you what it's like to live in poverty and suppression

I thought this was your most revealing comment. Here you openly admit Saddam ruled through poverty and suppression. I'm sad to hear your familiarity with these conditions. Now don't you think my friend that others shouldn't be forced to live like this? I hope so.

Unlike the thoughts of much of our western friends, the U.S. does not use war alone to maintain international stability but rather a last resort. However, wars get the most coverage and often times blindsight other contributions/concerns a country has for its neighbors. Let's not forget all the non-war related help the U.S. brings to the international community (please don't make me start a list). Unfortunatly, help doesn't always come in a form that's beautiful.

The day I lose faith in my government will not be when we overly indulge ourselves in the needs of humanity, but when we turn our backs on the rest of the world. It's humbling to live in a country where concern/help for our neighbors is a priority.
 

LetoII

Ninja > Pirate
1) i never said that YOU are nuking the country. never judge a population by it's government. but hey, i've been watching the news all the time, and i've seen countless bombs and missiles detonating right in the middle of baghdad. a little too many for solely striking military structures (how many military buildings can a single city have ???). the bombardment continued for quite some time. that's what i call nuking a country !!!

2) i don't like calculations if it's about casualties of war.
it doesn't matter how many more would have been killed if saddam was still in charge. enough people have been killed by the us forces, which is exactly why american soldiers are not very popular in iraq at the moment. you cannot make war on someone and then expect them to be grateful.

3) now here goes the typical world police syndrome. now you wanna go after north korea, too ??? if your government continues like that they'll be soon fighting wars all over the world. i really appreciate that you want to change the world for the better, but invasion is not a solution. you can't establish peace by making war.
"The U.S. will not tolerate countries who have something to hide or pretend as if they do." don't you think the us gov has things to hide, too ?! man, every nation does ! and who are you to tell whether it's tolerable or not ?

4) of course your troops have helped ending world war II, and i'm very grateful for that. but how often has your goverment fucked up (like every government in the world, by the way)?
how often have they placed a dictator into a country in order to maintain control ?! in romania it was the same: the CIA supported Ceaucescu in order to have a satellite state close to the russians. and when the situation escalated, they triggered the revolt which cost thousands of lifes. i know because i was there when it happened.
from whom did saddam get his weapons in the first place ? from the us gov. so he could fight the iranians. so first thy give weapons to a known maniac, and then they disarm him by force. and who must suffer and pay with their lifes ? young american soldiers and the the country's population. now ain't that sick and twisted ?!

5) "The U.S. has used the most modern technology as best as possible to try and prevent civilian deaths." ask the countless crippled children about the accuracy of those overly sophisticated weapons. i'm sure they'll tell you something different.

6) "I thought this was your most revealing comment. Here you openly admit Saddam ruled through poverty and suppression. I'm sad to hear your familiarity with these conditions. Now don't you think my friend that others shouldn't be forced to live like this? I hope so. " of course i don't wish for anyone to experience what i experienced, but as bad as it was in romania, i sure wouldn't have wished to be liberated at that cost. war is not an answer my friend. it's not even a last resort. it is no option at all. peace can only be achieved peacefully. violence triggers hate triggers violence.
that's a very simple principle. and that's exactly what we all can see right now with every single american soldier being killed by a car-bomb.

i just don't understand why you take this so personally ?! i'm not charging you or any of your fellow citizens. i like americans. i like your lifestyle, your generally positive attitude for life and much more (especially the girls;) ). but don't you think you should be a little bit more critical concerning your government, especially in times of war ? hell, i am definitlely critical concerning german politics. i know there's a lot of shit going on in my country, and i don't like it. and if my experiences told me one thing, then it's that people who gain power are easily corrupted. and your government is the most powerful in the world. keep that in mind !
 

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mr336wmg said:
Like there has NEVER been Anti-American sentiment coming from Europe??? Come-On…

Right or wrong… this war need to be finished. My only problem with the war is that it should have been finished in 1991. Saddam should have been taken out of power, back when the ALL of Europe was sided with the United States. This current war, albeit UGLY as hell, is no different than World War II, and World War I, two wars by the way, that would have totally changed all of Europe had the United States not intervened. The only difference is, this war does not have an evil dictator marching his troops into your backyard. Back to the current war, less people have died in the year and a half of this war than died in single days of most of the past wars. Maybe my country started the war for the wrong reason. That still remains to be seen, but regardless of their reasoning, IT NEEDED TO BE DONE.

IT NEEDED TO BE DONE RIGHT ON
 

Neromak

Sperm Donator in Training
mr336wmg said:
Like there has NEVER been Anti-American sentiment coming from Europe??? Come-On…

Right or wrong… this war need to be finished. My only problem with the war is that it should have been finished in 1991. Saddam should have been taken out of power, back when the ALL of Europe was sided with the United States. This current war, albeit UGLY as hell, is no different than World War II, and World War I, two wars by the way, that would have totally changed all of Europe had the United States not intervened. The only difference is, this war does not have an evil dictator marching his troops into your backyard. Back to the current war, less people have died in the year and a half of this war than died in single days of most of the past wars. Maybe my country started the war for the wrong reason. That still remains to be seen, but regardless of their reasoning, IT NEEDED TO BE DONE.

I guess i'm just one of those fools that believes everyone can & should get along.
Oh well.
 

parker

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hinddee29 said:
Back in 91 if we would of went into take him out of power
he would of used chems. We wouldn't of taken the city.
We weren't ready to fight chem warfare. We had troops there
and they knew it.

I've heard this arguement as well. I've also heard much of the US's credibilty with the coalition in '91 hinged upon Bush's promise that he wasn't going to continue fighting once Iraq agreed to leave Kuwait. That makes sense to me, so I'm one of the few persons that actually agrees with not hostilities and removing Saddam back then. Perhaps hindsight proves that decision wrong.... I'm not sure about that one, but as the saying goes, hindsight is 20/20.
 

Brino

Banned
hinddee29 said:
This time wasn't about oil. Iraq suported terrorist, and Bush said anyone that has ties with terrorists will be punished. Sure he didn't have ties will 9/11, but he still had ties with terrorists.
It's that simple.

hinddee29

Bullshit! Iraq didnt support terrorists. Saddam didnt even allow terrorists to live in his country because they threatened his power and control of Iraq. You wanna know what the ties between Saddam and terrorists were? I'll tell you, he hated them and he didnt in any way colaborate with them. Terorists tried to make contact with him and he rebuffed them because they threatened his power and control it's as plain and simple as that. So dont use the support of terrorism as a means for war because it's bullshit.
 
The war in Iraq was about OIL, and very little else. People who rant on about saddam being a dictator - I say fair enough, but what about ROBERT MUGABE? And what about the fact that Saudi Arabia has far more terrorist connections than Iraq?

I smell O-I-L...

The UK has had more threats of terrorism in the western world with the IRA in the past, and now with Bush on his high crusade, the spineless Tony Blair is playing the poodle and whipping up hysteria to support the pointless "War Effort", even though the UK has been in more endangered times.

Saddam was a bloodthirsty dictator, but he was no fool. He had no legitimate reason to attack the west despite all the problems of the aggressive Sharon administration in Israel, and 9/11 despite his sympathies because he knew what would happen...

...and it did.
 
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