Is Lebron the greatest to ever play the game?

[squallumz]

pippen! what are you thinking?

he's just mad. and upset. and, possibly, has dementia.

 

[LukeEl]

I want to say for his generation but remember there is someone waiting in the wings that will be even better, and I still parts for my robot aka Globetrottron.

 

[Icewater Jones]

My quick list of players I would take over LBJ:


Michael Jordan
Magic Johnson
Kobe Bryant
Larry Bird
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Oscar Robertson
Jerry West
Shaquille O'Neal
Hakeem Olajuwon
Bill Russell
Charles Barkley
Scottie Pippen

 

[busaguy79]

Lebron is not even the best player that is playing in the league right now, MJ was the player of his generation no questions asked! Yeah Lebron might get his championship this year but not the way the MJ got his 6!

 

[Mr. Hyde]

I don't know that he's even in the top 10 greatest. Maybe even top 20.

 

[Atar554]

Lebron is not even the best player that is playing in the league right now, MJ was the player of his generation no questions asked! Yeah Lebron might get his championship this year but not the way the MJ got his 6!

I'm still hoping he doesn't. I'm not a cavs fan and I'm not nearly as into basketball anymore as I was.

But the way he left Ohio was soooo shitty. He's one reason the sport is a joke.

 

[Tittyman5000]

I think Wade is better than James, I hate Kobe but he does magical shit sometimes.
But you got to admit when you put a superteam together it makes the star caliber go up, examples Bulls - Jordan/Pippen, Celtics - Bird/McHale, Jazz -Malone/Stockton, Lakers - Shaq/Kobe, Pistons Wallace/Prince

 

[mr. jizz]

Fuck no, there's no way Lebron is the greatest, he can't even touch MJ. There are dozens of players that are better than Lebron, I'll even admit that Kobe's better and I hate the Lakers.

 

[Straight Shooter]

He's not the greatest....yet. Some of you guys are saying that he's not even the best in the league and I disagree with that. I believe he is the best player in the NBA right now no question about it. He's better than Kobe, Durant, Nowitzki and Rose. Lebron brings it both on offense and defense. He can guard every position 1-5 and not alot of players can do that. The only knock on his game is that he hasn't come up big in the clutch unlike Kobe or even Dirk.

 

[PirateKing]

That primadonna? Nah.

 

[STDiva]

Lebron is not even the best player that is playing in the league right now, MJ was the player of his generation no questions asked! Yeah Lebron might get his championship this year but not the way the MJ got his 6!

Who's better than Lebron right now? Please. Lebron has been the best player in the league for years now. And he's not even as good as he can be. I suck Kobe's cock and I can admit that.

I'll admit I didn't think he deserved 1st team all defense, but he shut down Rose like a punk. 6%. Really? I'm ready for my serving of crow.

Lebron has the tools to be the greatest. He already has the numbers to be the greatest. He's already a multiple MVP. Now he needs the rings, and he needs to be MVP for those rings to be considered better than Jordan. A DPOY would help too. I bet he wins that and MVP next year. He makes Wade, an all world player look like a mediocre 2nd option.

He's the best scorer in the league. He's an elite rebounder. He's an elite passer. He's an elite defender. There really is nobody else in his league. If not for injuries to Noah and Boozer, LBJ is 3x MVP. He lost respect for the super team thing, but it's a super team because of him, straight up.

LBJ is dominant like Shaq was dominant. You cannot defend these guys. They make teams champions. He'll go down as a top 5 player of all time.

 

[Bearded_Menace]

Who's better than Lebron right now? Please. Lebron has been the best player in the league for years now. And he's not even as good as he can be. I suck Kobe's cock and I can admit that.

I'll admit I didn't think he deserved 1st team all defense, but he shut down Rose like a punk. 6%. Really? I'm ready for my serving of crow.

Lebron has the tools to be the greatest. He already has the numbers to be the greatest. He's already a multiple MVP. Now he needs the rings, and he needs to be MVP for those rings to be considered better than Jordan. A DPOY would help too. I bet he wins that and MVP next year. He makes Wade, an all world player look like a mediocre 2nd option.

He's the best scorer in the league. He's an elite rebounder. He's an elite passer. He's an elite defender. There really is nobody else in his league. If not for injuries to Noah and Boozer, LBJ is 3x MVP. He lost respect for the super team thing, but it's a super team because of him, straight up.

LBJ is dominant like Shaq was dominant. You cannot defend these guys. They make teams champions. He'll go down as a top 5 player of all time.

:yesyes:

 

[izabelplayer]

he has to win a few championships first to be even considered. even then, it wouldn't be as good because he had wade and bosh. jordan had pippen but jordan made pippen and the rest of the bulls better.

 

[STDiva]

Pippen is also one of the greatest players of all time. Don't make it sound like Jordan played with scrubs. Pippen led Bulls still had 55 wins I believe. That was a good team.

 

[John_8581]

This comparison cannot be made yet. His Airness has 5 MVP awards, 6 NBA titles, and countless other accolades.

I also think that Lebron is a fucking douche. He's talented for sure. But he's still a douche.

Agreed. What he did to the Cleveland Cavalier fans pisses me off to no end.

Basketball is a team sport ... Meaning that the player starts in high school, then he moves onto college, and if the player is extremely good onto the professional leagues...

Let's see, the 1982 NCAA Champion North Carolina Tar Heels had tremendous players: Sam Perkins, James Worthy, oh and by the way, Michael Jordan.

Now Michael Jordan is part owner of the NBA's Charlotte Bobcats. And he has held executive posts at other clubs.

Lebron James. Well he never went to college.

When he's done playing basketball, he'll be skilled at washing dishes in the nearby diner.

Enough said about this.

 

[Icewater Jones]

Who's better than Lebron right now? Please. Lebron has been the best player in the league for years now. And he's not even as good as he can be. I suck Kobe's cock and I can admit that.

I'll admit I didn't think he deserved 1st team all defense, but he shut down Rose like a punk. 6%. Really? I'm ready for my serving of crow.

Lebron has the tools to be the greatest. He already has the numbers to be the greatest. He's already a multiple MVP. Now he needs the rings, and he needs to be MVP for those rings to be considered better than Jordan. A DPOY would help too. I bet he wins that and MVP next year. He makes Wade, an all world player look like a mediocre 2nd option.

He's the best scorer in the league. He's an elite rebounder. He's an elite passer. He's an elite defender. There really is nobody else in his league. If not for injuries to Noah and Boozer, LBJ is 3x MVP. He lost respect for the super team thing, but it's a super team because of him, straight up.

LBJ is dominant like Shaq was dominant. You cannot defend these guys. They make teams champions. He'll go down as a top 5 player of all time.

The fact is, a lot of players have been the 'best player in the league' for a few years, but we are talking going up against the best ever. This idea that LBJ is unstoppable is false. He is very stoppable, and the person that shuts him down most is himself.

LBJ is still learning the game. He has the physical tools to be great, but there are many times that his lack of basketball IQ shows. He shuts down when it is clear that he cannot win. Strategy on the court still greatly confuses LBJ. This is why he joined the Heat, so that he could be paired with players that can still keep the team in the game when these moments happen. He wants all the freedom he can get to just play.

Another issue is he is a revenge player on offense, and he isn't that good at it... yet. When he feels challenged, he wants get back, but he has yet to find his 'get back' spots. M.J., Kobe, Reggie, and Bird were the same way, but they would get you to a places on the floor where they consistently kill and leave defenders helpless. Such as:

MJ and Kobe: FT line extended, post position
Bird: Face up, 3pt. line corners
Reggie: Off screen, 3 quarter pivot, catch and shoot

LBJ goes to places that even he has not fully developed game for. Reactionary step backs going right, and stand still face up jumpers are two things he really doesn't do consistently well, but seems to do them consistently. Why? Just because.

Now one thing that LBJ can't control is his level of competition. This is something that will always keep Jordan above everyone. Almost half of the NBA's Top 50 players played in Jordans time, and he has had legendary moments against most of them. The list of 'woulda had a ring if not for the Bulls and MJ' list of greats is long, and James can't fight that.

In order to be in the greater than M.J. discussion, ANYONE would have to:

Win 6 or more titles
Win 5 or more MVP's
Win DPOY
Be Finals MVP in every appearance 6 or more times
Be All-Defensive team 9 or more times
Be an NBA All-Star 14 or more times
Be All-NBA first team 10 or more times
Average 30+ ppg for the span of your career
Average 50% FG in the span of your career
Lead the NBA in a major defensive category 3 or more times
Win 2 or more Olympic Gold Medals

If you don't end it all like this or better, I really don't give a damn how much bigger, stronger, faster, quicker, or talented you seem... DON'T WASTE YOUR BREATH SPEAKING THE NAME OF MICHAEL JORDAN IN ANY GREATER THAN OVERALL COMPARISON.

PERIOD.

 

[Will E Worm]

Part Two :hatsoff:

"The Blackhole" Kevin McHale


"The Mailman" Karl Malone and "Mr Assist" John Stockton


Clyde "The Glide" Drexler


The Good Doctor - Dr J Julius Erving

 

[alexpnz]

Yes, he is.
He is the most physically gifted athlete in the world today, he would manhandle Jordan and shut him down!
Before it is said and done, the rings will come and the King shall reign.....it's inevitable!:clap:

 

[John_8581]

Yes, he is.
He is the most physically gifted athlete in the world today, he would manhandle Jordan and shut him down!
Before it is said and done, the rings will come and the King shall reign.....it's inevitable!:clap:

Bullsh*t -- Manhandle Jordan? Shut him down? After Lebron does what AR says and exceeds all the awards that MJ has .... then we'll believe you.

 

[HeartBroker]

Jordan > Lebron

:2 cents:

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