Joining the NRA and buying an AR-15

[sean miguel]

had no desire to do either until now but fuck the left.

And boycotting the corporate cowards who bowed to the pressure of high school kids.

Seriously, fuck the left.

God bless America

 

[Jack Davenport]

had no desire to do either until now but fuck the left.

And boycotting the corporate cowards who bowed to the pressure of high school kids.

Seriously, fuck the left.

God bless America

Lifetime NRA member since 2009.

I have a .9mm and a AR-15.
I have a concealed carry permit. I have only fired the AR-15 a few times on a single day at a range and it sits in my closet and will only be fired again if an intruder comes into my home. If it is never fired again, that will be fine with me.
Welcome to the club.

:glugglug:

 

[Will E Worm]

Buy the guns. Don't join a group.

The NRA is a gun owner registry.

There already is a national gun registry. It’s called the NRA membership list.

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[Jack Davenport]

Buy the guns. Don't join a group.

The NRA is a gun owner registry.

There already is a national gun registry. It’s called the NRA membership list.

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No it is not. People that don’t own firearms are members of the NRA.

 

[Mr. Daystar]

I can't remember when I became a lifetime NRA member, but I'm a proud, card carrying member. I have a CCW, and carry at all times, and avoid, and /or won't do business with stores that prohibit my right to defend myself. I carry at work, with BOTH owners permission....who also carry. What I own is not going to be listed, but I do have an AR. I haven't fired it in several years, it sits in a very secure 700 lb. safe, which sits next to a locking gun cabinet, which I lock my ammo in. I believe in safe, responsible ownership because I cherish my rights, and do not want to see them attacked because of the actions of others...and make no mistake, I will fight tooth and nail for them.



By the way, BC, an AR is a terrible home defense weapon. Buy a little snub nose .38, and put some weak low recoil rounds in it.


Strict, if you really are going to buy an AR, do yourself a favor, and spend the extra cash on gas piston operation, direct blow back can be a pain in the ass with smaller calibers like .223.

 

[Johan]

had no desire to do either until now but fuck the left.

And boycotting the corporate cowards who bowed to the pressure of high school kids.

Seriously, fuck the left.

God bless America

If your dumb enough to make that kind of decisions based on what the left thinks about it, you're ax extra-speciza kind of stupid...

 

[sean miguel]

Strict, if you really are going to buy an AR, do yourself a favor, and spend the extra cash on gas piston operation, direct blow back can be a pain in the ass with smaller calibers like .223.

Thanks, Diablo. I don't know what any of that means but I know it's sound advice. Up til now, I've been terrified of these implements of killing while I've hung out in my parents' den sipping hot chocolate in my pajamas and talking about healthcare. And I'm 33.

 

[sean miguel]

If your dumb enough to make that kind of decisions based on what the left thinks about it, you're ax extra-speciza kind of stupid...

Actually, I think if one were to go through their life making decisions based solely on what the left thinks about it then doing the exact opposite, they'd be pretty damn well off.

Think Duck Dynasty.

 

[himperv303]

And boycotting the corporate cowards who bowed to the pressure of high school kids.

A lot of people are concerned that young children are getting shot at. Yet the NRA is lobbying against the ban on sale of weapons like the AR 15. I personally donot see a reason why a civilian should own a semi automatic weapon. Fuck the NRA and its supporters.

 

[georges]

If your dumb enough to make that kind of decisions based on what the left thinks about it, you're ax extra-speciza kind of stupid...

You think that you are more clever than anybody else? How rich coming from you. It is not with shitty gunlaws that we have in France that we can protect ourselves. It has been proven many times.

 

[georges]

A lot of people are concerned that young children are getting shot at. Yet the NRA is lobbying against the ban on sale of weapons like the AR 15. I personally donot see a reason why a civilian should own a semi automatic weapon. Fuck the NRA and its supporters.

But when you will have gang bangers living in your neighboorhood, you will be happy to have an AR 15 to defend yourself against criminals.

 

[georges]

Best defense weapon is 12ga from Mossberg the JM930 pro series http://www.mossberg.com/product/930-jm-pro-series-autoloaders-85133/ but loaded with sabot slugs

 

[mongo18]

Best defense weapon is 12ga from Mossberg the JM930 pro series http://www.mossberg.com/product/930-jm-pro-series-autoloaders-85133/ but loaded with sabot slugs

The best self defense weapon IS 12 ga, because aiming isn't super important, you're not going to kill someone in the next room if you miss, which is why sabots are a stupid idea. Bird or target loads are going to do all the damage you need to anyone within 20 feet, and are not going to travel through walls.

A semi auto is also a bad idea for self defense, as they are prone to jamming. Not to mention everyone in the world knows the sound of a pump action being loaded, and it's all you're going to need to encourage most intruders to leave immediately.

Anyone who legitimately just wants home defense and isn't looking for the dick extending feeling of a badass looking gun would be fine with something like a maverick 88. It's a mossberg 500 clone, so parts and accessories are cheap and plentiful, and you can pick one up new for around the $200 mark.

 

[Johan]

You think that you are more clever than anybody else?

Never said that

 

[zeeblofowl_1969]

Lifetime NRA member since 2009.

I have a .9mm and a AR-15.
I have a concealed carry permit. I have only fired the AR-15 a few times on a single day at a range and it sits in my closet and will only be fired again if an intruder comes into my home. If it is never fired again, that will be fine with me.
Welcome to the club.

:glugglug:

I have many many firearms.

 

[pool_hustler]

The best self defense weapon IS 12 ga, because aiming isn't super important, you're not going to kill someone in the next room if you miss, which is why sabots are a stupid idea. Bird or target loads are going to do all the damage you need to anyone within 20 feet, and are not going to travel through walls.

Agreed.

A semi auto is also a bad idea for self defense, as they are prone to jamming. Not to mention everyone in the world knows the sound of a pump action being loaded, and it's all you're going to need to encourage most intruders to leave immediately.

Yep. That sound has worked for me twice...once when I didn't even have any shells on hand lol

 

[Jack Davenport]

The best self defense weapon IS 12 ga, because aiming isn't super important, you're not going to kill someone in the next room if you miss, which is why sabots are a stupid idea. Bird or target loads are going to do all the damage you need to anyone within 20 feet, and are not going to travel through walls.

A semi auto is also a bad idea for self defense, as they are prone to jamming. Not to mention everyone in the world knows the sound of a pump action being loaded, and it's all you're going to need to encourage most intruders to leave immediately.

Anyone who legitimately just wants home defense and isn't looking for the dick extending feeling of a badass looking gun would be fine with something like a maverick 88. It's a mossberg 500 clone, so parts and accessories are cheap and plentiful, and you can pick one up new for around the $200 mark.

Semis don’t jam regularly. Sliding back the chamber pin on an AR makes the same kind of familiar warning that a shotgun does.
If outdoor lighting sensors or security system warnings doesn’t stop the intruder, a verbal warning, sound of the chamber pin or pump action won’t have an effect either. Many if not most home invasions are by someone impaired. They don’t react to confrontations rationally.

If someone is invading my home, I am not taking a chance of loading shotgun shells two at a time when the intruder has a semi automatic pistol. I have two magazines loaded one in my gun the other in my pocket with enough rounds to stop them.

That “ scary” looking is not scary looking at all. The delta ring and barrel cover all serve a purpose, to mount carry handles, pistol grips or flashlights. Take it off and the barrel looks like an air rifle. If anything looks scary the magazine does and it should.

The second amendment affords us a right to own a weapon in the event that we need to resist a tyrannical government first, everything after that falls under the umbrella of law abiding citizenship and responsible gun ownership.

Everything you posted arguing against semi automatics have already been written about and discussed for the past few weeks and the part about the sound of a pump action is almost verbatim from a few liberal publications and media sources. This from a snowflake from a country with one tenth the population of the United States. But thanks for the advice Annie Oakley.

 

[bobjustbob]

The second amendment affords us a right to own a weapon in the event that we need to resist a tyrannical government first, everything after that falls under the umbrella of law abiding citizenship and responsible gun ownership.

That's what I want, responsible gun ownership. With that, I want police to capture illegal guns and those that have them. Is that too much to ask?

 

[Mr. Daystar]

That's what I want, responsible gun ownership. With that, I want police to capture illegal guns and those that have them. Is that too much to ask?

No that's EXACTLY what you should be asking for.

 

[Rey C.]

The best self defense weapon IS 12 ga, because aiming isn't super important, you're not going to kill someone in the next room if you miss, which is why sabots are a stupid idea. Bird or target loads are going to do all the damage you need to anyone within 20 feet, and are not going to travel through walls.

A semi auto is also a bad idea for self defense, as they are prone to jamming. Not to mention everyone in the world knows the sound of a pump action being loaded, and it's all you're going to need to encourage most intruders to leave immediately.

Anyone who legitimately just wants home defense and isn't looking for the dick extending feeling of a badass looking gun would be fine with something like a maverick 88. It's a mossberg 500 clone, so parts and accessories are cheap and plentiful, and you can pick one up new for around the $200 mark.

I'm not familiar with the Maverick, but I tend to agree with the rest of your post. When I lived in a more urban area and had more concerns about such things, my uncle pointed me toward the 12 ga. Remington 870 pump, with a folding stock, for interior home defense. Without going the extra mile and hassle of getting a Class 2 or 3 stamp, I'd stick with any good quality 12 ga. pump with an 18 in. barrel, a folding stock and an LED flashlight/strobe attachment. For interior home defense, a pistol (revolver or maybe a DAO semi) would be my second choice. A semi-auto pistol would be my third choice. And a long gun would be my final choice. Venturing outside your (familiar) four walls, if you don't have to, isn't suggested or wise, but that's where the long gun would come into its own.

My uncle (a Fed) carried a WP870 for years and swore by the "scattergun concept" when doing tactical entries. These were Remington 870 12 gauges with cut-down 14.5 inch barrels and customized hand-stops and grips. I don't recall what type of ammo they used. I don't think that it was buckshot, but I honestly don't recall. Their initial objective was to shock, strike and disable. Then, once your ass was on fire from those lead BBs and half your face was gone, the other Feds would light you up with their Sigs, Glocks and MP5s. That's a rough way to enter the hereafter.