Limbaugh Defends AIG from "Lynch Mob....Ginned Up By Obama"

[lovejoy]

It does not matter who is for NAFTA or not. Since the inception of NAFTA in 1993, the last two months (Jan, Feb, 2009) saw the first time Canadian products imported into United States has dropped especially automobile products to a negative balance i.e. there are more US products going into Canada. On the other hand, we are still enjoying a high profile of cheap labor in Mexico along the US/Mexico border towns.

I advocate a North American Union just like European Union however, Washington is tightening the borders on both North and South and restricting/slowing down the big rigs crossing the borders on both Mexican and Canadian sides. Passports are going to be required in the next few months crossing into Canada and further restrictions and delays of goods will be seen both along the US/Canadian and US/Mexican borders.

 

[feller469]

It seems to me that while Congress is agreeing to hand out millions, they are not putting any stipulations on what the money can be used for. then, when they see some of the money is going to bonuses, are acting shocked. I doubt any person with an average reading level is shocked by this. Passing the retro-tax on bonuses just shows they are inept and completely out of their league when trying to nail down these corporate weasels.

 

[Member2019]

It seems to me that while Congress is agreeing to hand out millions, they are not putting any stipulations on what the money can be used for. then, when they see some of the money is going to bonuses, are acting shocked. I doubt any person with an average reading level is shocked by this. Passing the retro-tax on bonuses just shows they are inept and completely out of their league when trying to nail down these corporate weasels.

I don't disagree. In fact, I've long argued not to send them the money in the first place. I'm for regulation, but neither entitlements nor subsidies. Why people advocate the government to have more money is beyond me.

However, for once it seems that Congress has moved quick to do what the Treasury and Executive (regardless of who was in) failed to do. It's after-the-fact, but still good to see that they are trying to prevent other businesses from doing the same.

I think the shocker on AIG is that only 400 people got these bonuses. I'm sure most were top-tier. That kind of non-sense needs to end.

 

[feller469]

It is socialsim for the elite, to keep them elite, and capitalism for the rest of us. Where was Congress when all the Mom-n-Pop places went under because of the corporate chains? I understand millions of people are affected by AIG's potential demise. That is what prison, and it has been suggested, suicide is for.

How can we have any faith in a system where one man basically scammed billions of dollars and the government watchdogs had no idea? Even when it was brought to their attention, they ignored the whistle-blower because it was not credible enough.

 

[rusticordmazacr]

In my opinion A.I.G abused the situation they were in even if it was said that empolyees get bonuses, that may be true but if a company you founded for many years was on the verge of going bankrupt and the government had to step in so you and your workers wouldnt be out of a job in the first place, then i think it was time to re-evaluate the contracts and pump more money where it needed to go and i think the employees would have understanded if you just explained look its either u dont get ur bonuses and save your job or we give you your bonuses and put us right back to where we were before.

 

[DukeLaCrosse]

Well, I do, and many millions of Americans do as well. He doesn't have to be 100% right, just right about the fuckups you won't hear on the MSM as long as they're still sucking on Obamas dick.
And thanks to the Democrat Party and Obama's Krewe the Republicans are looking forward to excellent election results in a couple of years, since relevance isn't the issue in an election, it's whatever the popular hysteria is at the time. Don't pretend that Obama was elected by a vast majority of the country, it was just by a few percent more of the American voters.
And now that Obama is breaking just about every campaign pledge he made that gave him a seeming difference from John McCain, and plagiarizing McCain's rhetoric on more and more issues (ie "the fundamentals of the economy are sound"), look for the wool to be off the eyes of the middle roaders and independents come Congressional election time...I think now that revulsion to anything Dem will give anyone not a Dem excellent election results.

do you ever think before you post? is everyone in texass as intelligent as you?

 

[DukeLaCrosse]

It's not about greed, it's about CHOICE, as you all should know choice does not just mean abortion. It's about giving people the choice of what they want to do with their own hard earned money, regardless of how much they make. Now people who earned it illegally (tax cheats, drug traffickers/dealers, people like Bernie Maddoff) by all means, tax them 100%.

Now, many liberals say "I wouldn't mind paying extra taxes to (help the poor, have universal health care, save the environment, etc.)" well, I do mind. If you don't mind paying extra, by all means, elect a guy who keeps taxes low and then if you CHOOSE to do so, you can always send some extra cash to the government, which is what a tax is if you didn't know. I mean, what kind of people are you to "help the poor" ONLY if you are forced to do so through higher taxes? I thought liberals were generous. Believe me, if I had the extra cash, I would definetely help the poor WITHOUT being forced to do so.

That way those of us who do mind for our own personal reasons (paying child support, paying a (gasp) mortgage, supporting a sick relative or own health reasons, etc.) don't get forced to pay for you to assuage your guilty conscience and by you sending your extra share to the government or to charity you can pay to assuage your guilty conscience yourself.

And remember, income taxes are not the only tax we pay, you got federal income taxes, state income taxes (thankfully not in Texas), property taxes, sales taxes, gasoline taxes, inheritance taxes, capital gains taxes, payroll taxes, social security taxes, medicaid/medicare taxes, excise taxes, school taxes... did I forget any? I mean, how much of our money is enough?

Not only that, but also when the government decides to regulate some industry (when "cap and trade" goes into effect and utility companies are taxed extra for carbon emissions, mark my words, get ready to pay more for your electric bill) the cost gets passed on to us so that could be considered an indirect tax.

And lastly, fine, let's get the money back from those assholes, I have no problem with that, but how much of that money will you personally see in your own wallet? Do you think your life is going to be any better just because we'll be getting even with those bonus guys? $160 million from those bonuses divided by 300 million people is.....do the math.

we can't lower taxes because the republicans have got us into a pointless war that costs billions every month

 

[Jagger69]

is everyone in texass as intelligent as you?

You just LaCrossed the line with that smart-ass question, Duke ol' buddy....say whatever you want about Philbert (I pretty much disagree with just about everything he says quite frankly) but leave my state alone. Good thing you're not down here in Lone Star country asking that question cuz them's fightin' words where I come from.

Where do you hail from? Maybe I can throw something ignorant, prejudicial and derogatory back at you about the people where you live.

 

[Bone]

Rush is the new Bozo the Clown. i have no idea why anyone would take him seriously

 

[Member2019]

It is socialsim for the elite, to keep them elite, and capitalism for the rest of us. Where was Congress when all the Mom-n-Pop places went under because of the corporate chains?

You can't explain that to most people without them just getting upset or demonizing things further.

What we Libertarians seem to fail to get both the left and right to understand is that no matter how big you make the government, it still listens to both large, external influences (corporations) as well as its own, internal influences (government for government's sake) well, well before the enterprising, small fellow or gal.

How can we have any faith in a system where one man basically scammed billions of dollars and the government watchdogs had no idea? Even when it was brought to their attention, they ignored the whistle-blower because it was not credible enough.

The problem is that the industry itself needs to be self-regulating and people ethical. When that breaks down, no among of government regulation will solve the problem.

I'd chalk it up to the values more and more people seem to be lacking these days. "Everyone is doing it!" and/or "But Bob/Susie does it!" Today, in the US, everyone else is to blame.

Heck, even the commercials that offer debt counselling services say it, "it's often not your fault." Bullshit! You spend more than you make, not looking towards your future let alone your possible job loss.

 

[Member2019]

Stereotypes ...

You just LaCrossed the line with that smart-ass question, Duke ol' buddy....say whatever you want about Philbert (I pretty much disagree with just about everything he says quite frankly) but leave my state alone. Good thing you're not down here in Lone Star country asking that question cuz them's fightin' words where I come from.
Where do you hail from? Maybe I can throw something ignorant, prejudicial and derogatory back at you about the people where you live.

You don't understand. Left-wingers complain about right-wingers labelling people and throwing everyone into one category. But in the end, left-wingers are all for group rights, and forcing everyone into that group, themselves.

And that includes Texans or anyone associated with Texas. Especially after W. Oh it would be so easy to such with Arkansas, especially based on Clinton's own governorship. But it's not remotely fair to anyone.

Because in the end, people are individuals, not categories. If there is one thing that is "American," it's that.

 

[DukeLaCrosse]

You just LaCrossed the line with that smart-ass question, Duke ol' buddy....say whatever you want about Philbert (I pretty much disagree with just about everything he says quite frankly) but leave my state alone. Good thing you're not down here in Lone Star country asking that question cuz them's fightin' words where I come from.

Where do you hail from? Maybe I can throw something ignorant, prejudicial and derogatory back at you about the people where you live.

florida

 

[titsrock]

It does not matter who is for NAFTA or not. Since the inception of NAFTA in 1993, the last two months (Jan, Feb, 2009) saw the first time Canadian products imported into United States has dropped especially automobile products to a negative balance i.e. there are more US products going into Canada. On the other hand, we are still enjoying a high profile of cheap labor in Mexico along the US/Mexico border towns.

I advocate a North American Union just like European Union however, Washington is tightening the borders on both North and South and restricting/slowing down the big rigs crossing the borders on both Mexican and Canadian sides. Passports are going to be required in the next few months crossing into Canada and further restrictions and delays of goods will be seen both along the US/Canadian and US/Mexican borders.

NAFTA is a bad deal for the U.S. I support *revising* it dramatically. The North American Union is an interesting idea, one I don't support at this time, but I could support it if the U.S. adopted Universal Healthcare/Canada Healthcare.

Mexico doesn't have a stable enough gov't to enter into any sort of permanent alliance. Mexico is closer to becoming a Cartel Nation ('80s Colombia) than a serious nation.

 

[Facetious]

but I could support it if the U.S. adopted Universal Healthcare/Canada Healthcare.

How could you possibly want to encourage a government run heath plan, particularly at a time like this ?
The government is broke and will continue to be so for the foreseeable future.
Let me ask you, have you read the plan ? Do we minions get to go to the same doctor as . . .say . . Nancy Pelosi ? :rofl: Not likely ! We'll get stuck with the cheapo, third world, can barely speak english, doctors.

Will it become illegal for individuals (non politicians that is) to enter into contract with a private physician ?

What are the terms of malpractice in this new system ? Does the govt. just cut your next of kin a $50,000 I Owe You after some Sri Lankan or Equatorial Guineaan cardiologist severs the wrong "tube" in your heart ?
Sorry, I can't think of a worse nightmare.

Mexico doesn't have a stable enough gov't to enter into any sort of permanent alliance. Mexico is closer to becoming a Cartel Nation ('80s Colombia) than a serious nation.

The Mexican Government is nearly toppled. Serious shit ahead ! :uohs: .

Seemingly everything is coming at us at once ! Everything is broken, or is about to be broken and it's not by accident. This representitive republic was only forecasted to last 200 years. We're overdue.

BTW - When is the social security bubble gonna burst ?
"Out Of Chaos Comes Order" - Stalin, Marx, Lenin or P.pot (said it) ?

 

[Philbert]

do you ever think before you post? is everyone in texass as intelligent as you?

I meet people here every day, some who don't speak English very well, who are without a doubt 2 or 3 levels of smarts above your simple-minded and usually 3rd grade level of thinking.
I actually have been thinking for years, not just before and while I post...and are you really that simple that you think I represent the whole state of Texas? Really?
And you think all of us are somehow different from people from other states? You are beyond thick...Texas is populated by a very large percentage of non-native Texans, really smart "Yankees" who moved out of the over priced, economically stifled Eastern, Midwestern, and Northern states to enjoy the vast economic and cultural resources we have here. Not to mention the fine weather...
I wait with bated breath your future deeply penetrating and insightful comments on sports teams and politics...you can tell the difference, right?:rofl2:

Sucks to be you...huh?

 

[Philbert]

florida

Isn't that where people have a hard time punching out tiny little holes in voting cards, and counting in consecutive order?:rofl:
Do ya'll still have a Governor named Jeb? Or did he lose to someone named "Bubba"?

:rofl:God...I can hardly stand it...someone from Florida who thinks Texans are somehow less smart than the average bear, (or Floridian)...! :rofl:

 

[Member2019]

The defense spending is hardly alone during spending increases ...

we can't lower taxes because the republicans have got us into a pointless war that costs billions every month

If that was only half the truth. Look at the spending increases over the same period. It wasn't just the war, the war was the means by which every politician got what they wanted, so the President could get his support.

Same thing happened during Vietnam and, even more so, the Cold War build-up under Reagan. The defense spending is hardly alone.

Ironically, entitlements and various programs actually decreased under Clinton and the Republican Congress. I hope we see those days again.