Limbaugh dropped from group

[calpoon]

calling people a racist or a Nazi just ends all debate. It's an intellectual cop-out

You're the one that ended the "debate" by splitting straws over my comparison as rhetoric instead of addressing the point that I made after that statement. And let it be said that I did make such a further statement rather than just calling someone a racist or a nazi and letting that be the whole of my argument.

My point with such an analogy was that because a person is popular and successful at voicing their opinions it does not disqualify their views from being irrational, subversive or misguiding. I brought this up to reinforce my point that the public has no obligation to refrain from criticism of any speech, even though they do not have the right to suppress an individual from making that speech in the first place.

To be perfectly clear, because this is getting wordy and circular, I am addressing the charge that free speech is being violated here. I'm pointing out that neither Rushes nor anyone else's speech is being violated in this case.

 

[Jagger69]

Oh.
MR. Moore can buy whatever he wants as far as I'm concerned.
Why would I or anyone have a problem with how he spends or invests his money?

You are obviously not a sports fan then. Otherwise, your enthusiasm for any favorite team would have to be affected....because you would essentially then be "rooting" for Michael Moore to succeed. As a Rams fan (yes, BI, there are some of us....I still have my Super Bowl t-shirt as well as my Warner and Faulk jerseys!), I would be highly distressed knowing that Mr. Limbaugh would profit from the success of a team in which I have a serious emotional investment. I don't him having anything to do with the Rams because they are my team.

Not to mention a recent survey shows most NFL owners and players vote Republican.

Owners? Oh yeah, I'd believe that for sure. Players? Seriously doubt it....you have a source for this CS? I'd like to see it. Otherwise, it's hearsay evidence.

 

[Rey C.]

I haven't seen any surveys that tracked the voting habits of NFL players. I would also like to see that survey. What I saw on Bloomberg was a study that showed that NFL teams (ownership and management) had donated more money to Republican candidates than Democrats.

And folks, I'm sorry, but liking or not liking Rush Limbaugh or his views has nothing to do with how one might feel about Republicans. And that's a BIG part of the problem these days. Limbaugh has somehow managed to get (many) people to think of his voice as that of the GOP. Good for Ru$h. Not so good for the GOP, IMO.

 

[calpoon]

Good point Rey C.

 

[Hot Mega]

Newsflash - President Obama IS a black guy. Oh my gosh, I must be a racist too because I mentioned race.

Hint: Just because rush TALKS about race, or about someone's race, that doesn't mean he is a racist. Only about two or three of the things you quoted could be considered "racist", and it would be nice to find out the context in which those things were said.

Furthermore, I've listened to Rush Limbaugh off and on for about 20 years, and I agree with about 99% of what he says. I am NOT a racist, and I don't believe Rush is either.

Again, just because someone talks about "black people" or "minorities" doesn't mean they are a racist - even if they disagree with some of the things that some or most of the people in these groups do.

"Racism" is when you hate people. Rush has never said anything to make me believe he hates any group of people.

I'd listened to Limbaugh for a few years a long time ago....I'm not a racist either.

I doubt he's a racist but some of what he says is definitely considered race-baiting and frankly racist.

So what, he has a right to say irresponsible things for a living and business groups and leagues have a right to decide who they do business with.:dunno:

What does he want...congress, some "lib", "activist" judge or the ACLU to intervene and make someone who doesn't want to do business with him deal with him?

I don't have a problem with people deciding not to do business with Rush. It's their choice.:o

 

[MILF Man]

So did Hitler.

So does B.O.

Since we're going to compare people.

 

[Hot Mega]

Not to mention a recent survey shows most NFL owners and players vote Republican.

The whole thing reeks of elitist censorship and a smear campaign against someone who committed the sin of speaking their mind and being successful... which the last time I checked was ok in America.

Or maybe not.

Or maybe it's only ok if the media shares your politics.

Don't they have a right to do business with whomever they choose? Since it's their choice, does the reason actually matter?

The reasoning is most likely and could absolutely be because of his politics. So what?:dunno:

 

[Ace Bandage]

Sorry but this is one of the strangest posts ive ever seen.
you say youre conservative , ok.
but then you cheap shot the pain pill addiction.(humans can get addicted to pain killers).

I can be a conservative and still not like Rush Limbaugh. He's too outspoken and he's a blemish on the Republican Party. Rush also lampooned President Clinton for drug use and spoke about his opposition to "doctor shopping." Yet, he did both when he started popping OxyContin. Quite the hypocrite.

say that somebody should retire (isnt that their choice?).
to far right to be a partner? how far anything is too far too be a business partner?
And your worried about who he offends.
hello, where does it say in any amendment or law that you cant hurt someones feelings?

Yes, he should retire. It might be his decision, but people are forced into retirement all the time (think Dan Rather). Rush is so far to the right that his views and opinions are not representative of a vast majority of the Republican Party:
1. He attempted to undermine the Democratic elections by telling citizens to vote for whoever was behind the vote calling it "Operation Chaos." For example, he told listeners in Ohio to register as Democrats so that they could vote for Hilary Clinton in the primaries. This was his goal: "The dream end of [Operation Chaos] is that this keeps up to the Convention, and that we have a recreation of Chicago 1968 with burning cars, protests, fire, and literal riots and all of that, that is the objective here."
2. When asked to provide 400 words of hope for Obama's presidency, he said, "I only need four. I hope he fails." Now I voted for McCain, but Obama is the president. He might be a democratic president, but that doesn't change the fact that I hope his administration is able to curtail the recession and reduce unemployment among other things. If he fails, doesn't American fail as well? I may not like the president, but I hope he succeeds regardless of party affiliation.
3. Limbaugh voiced his approval for a parody of Obama that claimed he was filling the role of "magic negro." Limbaugh then later played a song by Paul Shanklin titled "Barack the Magic Negro," sung to the tune of "Puff the Magic Dragon".
4. While working for ESPN, Limbaugh claimed that Donovan McNabb was overrated as a quarterback and received media attention simply because he was black. He later resigned in light of those comments. This incident is probably the most important reason why he shouldn't be affiliated with a pro football team. He showed a complete disrespect for one of the premiere quarterbacks in the league based solely on his race. McNabb is a 5-time pro bowler and took his team to the Super Bowl in 2004. He's not overrated by any stretch of the imagination.

And these are just a few examples. As I've said before, it just doesn't make sense to have a man like this trying to buy an NFL franchise. His extreme views alienate and offend people. Commissioner Goodell has said the Limbaugh's comments about McNabb violate the league's high standards. Legendary Colts owner Jim Irsay said he would not even consider voting for him because of his inappropriate, incendiary and insensitive comments during his time as a talk show host. The NFL is a business just like everyone else. If they don't want you to be involved, then you won't be. It's a simple as that. Money has nothing to do with it. Being an owner is very influential position. I can understand why Goodell would not want a man like Limbaugh to be in that position.

And if exposing liberal and or democrats motives behind their words and actions is offensive.........so be it, change the station.
You say youre conservative but every word you wrote screams liberal.

I don't listen to Rush, so I don't have to worry about changing the station. As I've said before, he's too extreme. I'm not a liberal, but I do oppose some conservatives. I don't vote straight-ticket Republican, I tend to vote for who I think can get the job done. I've voted for (D) Senator Evan Bayh mainly because of his views on education and his record for agricultural support to rural communities. Being Republican doesn't always mean that I blindly support them all. Limbaugh does not deserve to be an owner of a football franchise. It's a privilege to do so, and a privilege that should not be extended to him for all the reasons I listed above.

 

[Rey C.]

Excellent post, Andronicus Ry. I used to listen to Limbaugh daily back in the early to mid 90's - not so much anymore. I really don't llisten to any sort of talk radio on a regular basis these days. But your post told me more about (the new) Limbaugh than I knew. I had no idea that he'd ever worked for ESPN... weird.

But again, excellent post. Too bad the system won't let me rep you for that one.

 

[Hot Mega]

I can be a conservative and still not like Rush Limbaugh. He's too outspoken and he's a blemish on the Republican Party. Rush also lampooned President Clinton for drug use and spoke about his opposition to "doctor shopping." Yet, he did both when he started popping OxyContin. Quite the hypocrite.

Yes, he should retire. It might be his decision, but people are forced into retirement all the time (think Dan Rather). Rush is so far to the right that his views and opinions are not representative of a vast majority of the Republican Party:
1. He attempted to undermine the Democratic elections by telling citizens to vote for whoever was behind the vote calling it "Operation Chaos." For example, he told listeners in Ohio to register as Democrats so that they could vote for Hilary Clinton in the primaries. This was his goal: "The dream end of [Operation Chaos] is that this keeps up to the Convention, and that we have a recreation of Chicago 1968 with burning cars, protests, fire, and literal riots and all of that, that is the objective here."
2. When asked to provide 400 words of hope for Obama's presidency, he said, "I only need four. I hope he fails." Now I voted for McCain, but Obama is the president. He might be a democratic president, but that doesn't change the fact that I hope his administration is able to curtail the recession and reduce unemployment among other things. If he fails, doesn't American fail as well? I may not like the president, but I hope he succeeds regardless of party affiliation.
3. Limbaugh voiced his approval for a parody of Obama that claimed he was filling the role of "magic negro." Limbaugh then later played a song by Paul Shanklin titled "Barack the Magic Negro," sung to the tune of "Puff the Magic Dragon".
4. While working for ESPN, Limbaugh claimed that Donovan McNabb was overrated as a quarterback and received media attention simply because he was black. He later resigned in light of those comments. This incident is probably the most important reason why he shouldn't be affiliated with a pro football team. He showed a complete disrespect for one of the premiere quarterbacks in the league based solely on his race. McNabb is a 5-time pro bowler and took his team to the Super Bowl in 2004. He's not overrated by any stretch of the imagination.

And these are just a few examples. As I've said before, it just doesn't make sense to have a man like this trying to buy an NFL franchise. His extreme views alienate and offend people. Commissioner Goodell has said the Limbaugh's comments about McNabb violate the league's high standards. Legendary Colts owner Jim Irsay said he would not even consider voting for him because of his inappropriate, incendiary and insensitive comments during his time as a talk show host. The NFL is a business just like everyone else. If they don't want you to be involved, then you won't be. It's a simple as that. Money has nothing to do with it. Being an owner is very influential position. I can understand why Goodell would not want a man like Limbaugh to be in that position.


I don't listen to Rush, so I don't have to worry about changing the station. As I've said before, he's too extreme. I'm not a liberal, but I do oppose some conservatives. I don't vote straight-ticket Republican, I tend to vote for who I think can get the job done. I've voted for (D) Senator Evan Bayh mainly because of his views on education and his record for agricultural support to rural communities. Being Republican doesn't always mean that I blindly support them all. Limbaugh does not deserve to be an owner of a football franchise. It's a privilege to do so, and a privilege that should not be extended to him for all the reasons I listed above.

I agree with everything here except for the notion that Limbaugh "should" retire.

Limbaugh has a product that sells and he should peddle it as long as someone is willing to pay him to do so.

It's ironic though that Limbaugh (and those like him) has lead efforts in the past to hound people out of consideration for this or that based on their past statements (in or out of context). Now he's seeing that turn-about is fair play.

 

[SuperGlide9]

So did Hitler.



Sure, but where in the world does it say that means people have to like what you say or even listen to it?

It's a two way street.

Rush Limbaugh has his own show, no one is censoring him. He is successful because his audience wants to hear what he has to say, even though he pisses people off.

There is a big difference between being allowed to publically state your opinion and getting paid to do so. There is a thing called Public Acesss Channel where anyone is allowed to go on there and say whatever they want to and piss off as many people as they can, but no one is paying them for it.

By the way, the problem with Hitler wasn't that he spoke his mind and was successful, but THAT HE MURDERED 6 MILLION HUMAN BEINGS! Not to mention invading every country in Europe with the exception of Switzerland. (And just to be clear, that is not where the former head coach of the Dallas Cowboys and Oklahoma Sooners is from.) Plus, he had a really stupid moustache. Since these are the main things Hitler is famous for, and Rush Limbaugh has not, to my knowledge, either killed anyone, invaded anyone, or worn incredibly stupid facial hair, for what reason do you bring them together? That seems like some sort of scapegoating that you are engaging in...just like, you guessed it...HITLER! Congratualtions, you are now an honorary member of the "Just Like Hitler" club.

 

[bustybbwlover]

i'm guessing that the million/billionaires who own nfl teams aren't the most liberal of people so rush's 'the liberal media ended my bid' seems a bit simplistic and silly to me