Loose Change - What Do You All Think?

[STDiva]

You realize how you sound with this. This technique don't work anymore.

:1orglaugh Take your own advice, son. And quit posting the same video. We all saw it the first time you posted it. There is no proof whatsoever.

 

[DJCowboy]

It's a little more than 2 peoples opinions. Go to their site http://www.buildingwhat.org and see that it is a lot more than 2 people.

I realized that it was more than just those two's opinions but seriously, what does the government have to gain from this war? Why would they wanna destroy these buildings. Don't give me that oil bullshit because that didn't make a lick of difference.


After living in this country for 25 years and seeing it in action, I just refuse to give them the credit to be able to keep anything like this a secret for that long

Edit: and you do realize that just as many demolition experts have said this wasn't a demolitions job to pull this off (at least for the two towers). No one could get away with that

 

[WTC7WasPulled]

I realized that it was more than just those two's opinions but seriously, what does the government have to gain from this war? Why would they wanna destroy these buildings. Don't give me that oil bullshit because that didn't make a lick of difference.


After living in this country for 25 years and seeing it in action, I just refuse to give them the credit to be able to keep anything like this a secret for that long

Well you have to understand who controls the Government. There are elements within the Government that state openly they want to control the middle east. Read the PNAC document as described at the beginning of Loose Change (way back on page 1 of this thread). In PNAC they explain it clearly:

"Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event - like a new Pearl Harbor."

The new Pearl Harbor being 9/11.

This is a full length film that I highly recommend as well showing the kind of ridicule and threats people have received being 9/11 Truthers but how strong and patriotic they are. There is also a great deal of evidence put forth in this film.

 

[DJCowboy]

Yep, it's the Illuminati who control it, no wait, it's the FreeMasons, actually it's the Skulls, even better, it's Hulk Hogan

 

[STDiva]

Yep, it's the Illuminati who control it, no wait, it's the FreeMasons, actually it's the Skulls, even better, it's Hulk Hogan

Name calling and humour are a lame excuse. Why don't you comment on the videos instead of trying to be funny?

 

[Ace Boobtoucher]

I know I'm guilty of this too, but please stop feeding the troll.

 

[Ace Boobtoucher]

Oh, and BlueBalls nomination for Ms. freeones is the other tag I created.

 

[WTC7WasPulled]

I know I'm guilty of this too, but please stop feeding the troll.

Why are you name calling? I am not a troll, I'm a human being. I have feelings about this and that's why I posted this thread. You can clearly see if you've ever watched the film 9/11 Chronicles Truth Rising that 9/11 Truthers are real human beings with questions. The people who ridicule are usually mostly scared of the truth or simply disinfo bloggers meant to stifle conversations about this subject. I think you simply use these belittling comments as a defense mechanism to really looking at the issues. Watch this film and see the kind of bravery it takes to tackle these issues.

 

[DJCowboy]

Why are you name calling? I am not a troll, I'm a human being. I have feelings about this and that's why I posted this thread. You can clearly see if you've ever watched the film 9/11 Chronicles Truth Rising that 9/11 Truthers are real human beings with questions. The people who ridicule are usually mostly scared of the truth or simply disinfo bloggers meant to stifle conversations about this subject. I think you simply use these belittling comments as a defense mechanism to really looking at the issues. Watch this film and see the kind of bravery it takes to tackle these issues.

How do you not see that you're acting no different than us ridiculing the theorists!? Basically since we are not agreeing with you, you pretty much call us ignorant and "afraid".
If I would have just agreed with you without adding my own opinion, you'd think I'd be the smartest on this board (next to you, of course)

 

[WTC7WasPulled]

How do you not see that you're acting no different than us ridiculing the theorists!? Basically since we are not agreeing with you, you pretty much call us ignorant and "afraid".
If I would have just agreed with you without adding my own opinion, you'd think I'd be the smartest on this board (next to you, of course)

Ok then I'm the prick, ok, just please look at the issues. Say I'm the biggest asshole on this site, fuck me, please all I care about is that people see this issue, it is so important! There is just so much evidence showing the 9/11 Commission is a sham and that the chances of an inside job are very high. This needs to be taken seriously. I'd take a bullet to have everyone wake up to the truth about 9/11 and get these criminals and stop these illegal wars.

 

[DJCowboy]

Ok then I'm the prick

Finally! You get it!

 

[ThatRedWing]

OK, lets take all of the "facts" and see who had the most to gain. 9/11 happened which eventually put the U.S. in two wars. It also led to another four years of "Dubya" in the White house riding a wave of fear and patriotic fervor. During this time the U.S. fell into an inevitable economic recession. All of these factors combined led the American people to seek a change of direction in political leadership. Obviously Obama was behind the whole thing.

 

[robbied196]

Interesting thread.

I'm not with any conspiracy, there's no point, there's never any answers, its like chasing something that's always just on the horizon.

However, I didn't know about building 7. I think it raises questions that need to be answered.

Also, I don't know why WTC7WasPulled is being given such a hard time. I think if relatives of people who died are asking questions of what happened that day. Then 'they' deserve answers. Someone needs to give a detailed, scientific explanation of how tower 7 collapsed that day. That doesn't seem to be a lot to ask.

 

[DJCowboy]

I think if relatives of people who died are asking questions of what happened that day. Then 'they' deserve answers. Someone needs to give a detailed, scientific explanation of how tower 7 collapsed that day. That doesn't seem to be a lot to ask.

How many relatives of those who died accept that it was terrorists and don't feel the need to ask questions?

 

[PlumpRump]

... I'd take a bullet to have everyone wake up to the truth about 9/11 and get these criminals and stop these illegal wars.

How about you just take a bullet, period, and we call it a day?

And as far as loose change goes, its going to take a little more than some convenient, coincidental "evidence," and some rap music as a soundtrack to convince most people of the outrageous claims you're so stubbornly trying to justify.

For the sake of argument, let's imagine (because using our imaginations is the only way any of this nonsense would ever be remotely founded) and say that everything in LC is true. How many people would it take to pull off such an elaborate scheme? 50? 100? 200? Tell me, then, how is it possible that nearly a decade later not 1 person has admitted to a conspiracy? Imagine the fame, however dubious it may be, that an individual would stand to achieve for corroborating this story with even one shred real evidence. Do you even comprehend the logistics of keeping that many people quiet? Impossible.

Further, if, as you claim by supporting these outrageous theories, the government has no problem whatsoever killing innocent Americans, why would they not simply kill the director of this film to ensure that the "truth," never fully comes out? Seems to me that it would be a small risk to take to fully pull off one of the most elaborate conspiracies in history.

 

[robbied196]

How many relatives of those who died accept that it was terrorists and don't feel the need to ask questions?

I don't understand your point? Are you saying there can be no more questions because the general concencious have decided it was a terrorist act?

I'm not disputing it was a terrorist act, that's the problem with 'a conspiracy theory', now if anyone asks a question its somehow conspirative.

I think if a number of questions and concerns are being raised by relatives, they deserve the right to voice those questions and should expect to have them answered. What would be the problem with doing that?

 

[DJCowboy]

I don't understand your point? Are you saying there can be no more questions because the general concencious have decided it was a terrorist act?

I'm not disputing it was a terrorist act, that's the problem with 'a conspiracy theory', now if anyone asks a question its somehow conspirative.

I think if a number of questions and concerns are being raised by relatives, they deserve the right to voice those questions and should expect to have them answered. What would be the problem with doing that?

See WTC7? This is a proper question. My point was that a majority of relatives to those that died during this tragedy believe it was a terrorist act, not anything by our own government. They can ask questions, but the general consensus is when you blame your own government for a violent act against itself, that's generally called a conspiracy. But you could even say the Russians did the act and that would still be considered a conspiracy.

Don't get me wrong, I completely support those that want to question, but at the same time, if I believe I'm right, I will defend it. It's just that the evidence for our own government blowing these buildings up isn't fitting into place at all.

 

[DJCowboy]

I don't understand your point? Are you saying there can be no more questions because the general concencious have decided it was a terrorist act?

I'm not disputing it was a terrorist act, that's the problem with 'a conspiracy theory', now if anyone asks a question its somehow conspirative.

I think if a number of questions and concerns are being raised by relatives, they deserve the right to voice those questions and should expect to have them answered. What would be the problem with doing that?

See WTC7? This is a proper question. My point was that a majority of relatives to those that died during this tragedy believe it was a terrorist act, not anything by our own government. They can ask questions, but the general consensus is when you blame your own government for a violent act against itself, that's generally called a conspiracy. But you could even say the Russians did the act and that would still be considered a conspiracy.

Don't get me wrong, I completely support those that want to question, but at the same time, if I believe I'm right, I will defend it. It's just that the evidence for our own government blowing these buildings up isn't fitting into place at all.

 

[STDiva]

See WTC7? This is a proper question. My point was that a majority of relatives to those that died during this tragedy believe it was a terrorist act, not anything by our own government. They can ask questions, but the general consensus is when you blame your own government for a violent act against itself, that's generally called a conspiracy. But you could even say the Russians did the act and that would still be considered a conspiracy.

Don't get me wrong, I completely support those that want to question, but at the same time, if I believe I'm right, I will defend it. It's just that the evidence for our own government blowing these buildings up isn't fitting into place at all.

Have you watched the videos? Obviously not.

 

[robbied196]

See WTC7? This is a proper question. My point was that a majority of relatives to those that died during this tragedy believe it was a terrorist act, not anything by our own government. They can ask questions, but the general consensus is when you blame your own government for a violent act against itself, that's generally called a conspiracy. But you could even say the Russians did the act and that would still be considered a conspiracy.

Don't get me wrong, I completely support those that want to question, but at the same time, if I believe I'm right, I will defend it. It's just that the evidence for our own government blowing these buildings up isn't fitting into place at all.

I agree, as a so called 'inside job' its impossible. The potential for something to go wrong with a preconceived plot of that magnitude is huge.

I think its in the public's interest to get these Tower 7 questions answered, its lack of publicity is made to look conspirative in itself.

Interestingly, in the film where the mechanical engineer states that a natural collapse would be scientifically impossible, because each descending floor is slowed by the floor below, and therefore the building can't totally collapse.
I spoke to an architect, who makes the exact opposite judgement, that the weight and speed of the first floors collapse, creates force and acceleration, and that is totally scientifically possible for a building to collapse in this way.