icerfan
Nikkala made me do it!
You're both wrong. :nono:
Two more seasons, 17 hours scheduled next year, and 17 hours in 2010. :2 cents:
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blackbull1970
Can I borrow your virginity?
Re: Lost Season Finale 5/29/30
The dates/location advertised in the commercial are the same time and location of Comic Con in San Diego.
Keep and eye out, its obvious something related to the show is going to be released.
Peace.
The dates/location advertised in the commercial are the same time and location of Comic Con in San Diego.
Keep and eye out, its obvious something related to the show is going to be released.
Peace.
I liked that show for awhile but hated the finale.
zell
If you wish to live wisely, ignore sayings including this one.
So I just finished watching the second half of this season and I must say that I really think that this show is continually dropping the ball every season.
Last season I felt had peaks and valleys,but when it was over,I wanted to know more about where the story was headed.Now,this show just seems like one great big convoluted mess,and I'm not really looking forward to knowing what's gonna happen with these characters.
When Ben started turning that crank to move the island,I thought here we go again,just like when the sky turned purple,using the same plot device that's been done before.Weak.
It's obvious that the creative teams original vision for the show has changed into something that wasn't in the original plans.For example,it seemed like Walt's character was going to be a pivotal piece of the show,but the producers didn't think about the actual logistics of a kid growing over a 3-6 year period when they are only supposed to be on the island for about 4 months,so,imo,they had to reinvision the show.I think they realized that early in the second season around the time that Ben was introduced.
I had read somewhere that the Ben character was only supposed to be in a few episodes and that's it.I think that his creepy nature and the realization that they can't use Walt like they originally planned gave them a new creative avenue to go down,so they made Ben more of a focal character(Steve Erkel syndrome).
I feel that this show is becoming more and more of a disappointment.After 4 years there are thinks that we either get slight hint about or still just don't know what the fuck is going on.
1.Still don't really know the significance of the numbers.
2.We kinda know that Ben can summon the smoke monster(which now that I think about it doesn't make any sense either.Why would he send the smoke monster on random attacks in the woods like when it killed Mr. Eko.)but we still don't know where it came from or what it is.
3.What was the deal with that statue foot?
I really wish that they would come to their senses and end the show next season instead of milking it until it's bone dry and further digging themselves into a hole that they can't write themselves out of.Anyway that's my :2 cents:...at least for now.
Last season I felt had peaks and valleys,but when it was over,I wanted to know more about where the story was headed.Now,this show just seems like one great big convoluted mess,and I'm not really looking forward to knowing what's gonna happen with these characters.
When Ben started turning that crank to move the island,I thought here we go again,just like when the sky turned purple,using the same plot device that's been done before.Weak.
It's obvious that the creative teams original vision for the show has changed into something that wasn't in the original plans.For example,it seemed like Walt's character was going to be a pivotal piece of the show,but the producers didn't think about the actual logistics of a kid growing over a 3-6 year period when they are only supposed to be on the island for about 4 months,so,imo,they had to reinvision the show.I think they realized that early in the second season around the time that Ben was introduced.
I had read somewhere that the Ben character was only supposed to be in a few episodes and that's it.I think that his creepy nature and the realization that they can't use Walt like they originally planned gave them a new creative avenue to go down,so they made Ben more of a focal character(Steve Erkel syndrome).
I feel that this show is becoming more and more of a disappointment.After 4 years there are thinks that we either get slight hint about or still just don't know what the fuck is going on.
1.Still don't really know the significance of the numbers.
2.We kinda know that Ben can summon the smoke monster(which now that I think about it doesn't make any sense either.Why would he send the smoke monster on random attacks in the woods like when it killed Mr. Eko.)but we still don't know where it came from or what it is.
3.What was the deal with that statue foot?
I really wish that they would come to their senses and end the show next season instead of milking it until it's bone dry and further digging themselves into a hole that they can't write themselves out of.Anyway that's my :2 cents:...at least for now.
meesterperfect
Hiliary 2020
Those are a few damn good theorys.
The earliest still unexplained things I beleive are:
The Smoke monster
The numbers
Adam & Eve
The statue
the Black Rock
I like your theory on Adam&Eve. Thats real good.
I just watched the Finale
Nothing much to add but I liked it alot.
Hope Jins not dead,
I can't see how Michael isn't
Daniel is screwed.
I do wonder if Locke could walk when he returned to the world in the future
calpoon
Yes, I bribed and cheated to get this far
interesting opinion Zell. I expressed my dissatisfaction with the ending, but overall i felt that this season was easily on par with season 2, and may have even been better. which would rank it for me, as second best (after season 1). You say the show has gotten more convulated, but I think it has found it's voice. I think that at this point the creators know who their fanbase is and they are appealing to them, a move that I feel turns off casual and new viewers. but I can't complain, I think that they did rather well at keeping this season fresh.
The writers have said that they have already written and will give the answers to everything in the final season.
dave_rhino
Closed Account
In all I think this was the worst season, not that it was really bad, just not as good as the others.
The best thing I've seen this season was Locke putting the grenade in Miles' mouth and saying "Enjoy your dinner". Fucking awesome.
The best thing I've seen this season was Locke putting the grenade in Miles' mouth and saying "Enjoy your dinner". Fucking awesome.
zell
If you wish to live wisely, ignore sayings including this one.
I'll respectfully disagree you about how good this season was.I think that the writer's strike forced their hand to use some of the same plot devices that were previously used.Season 2's blowing up the hatch to this seasons moving the island(sky turning purple vs loud noise and bright light),Blowing up the boat and killing Micheal and Jin was kinda like Charlie blowing up the underwater station(both Micheal and Charlie becoming marters).A final battle against the survivors vs the others was just like the survivors vs the guys from the freighter.I felt like a lot of this stuff was the same gift in a different package.
I feel that your comment about the creators keeping the show "fresh" is way off base,but I do feel that they do have a 100% definitive feel of how they are going to end the show,something that I think they didn't know from the beginning or had to change for multiple reasons.
But the next season isn't the final season,so what's your point?And I honestly don't think that they will tie up all of thier loose ends.I don't really have a problem with them not answering every single question,but I just think that there are plot hole a mile wide and 1000 ft deep that they either won't be able to answer or give a lame ass explaination.
I agree with you 100% on both accounts.I think that you said in a previous post that you though that the first season was the best,and I definitely agree with that.The second season was decent but the network ruined it for everyone with the recap episodes and constant and unpredictable reruns.The bad thing,also was that by seasons end,there were just an enormous amount of new questions that were presented.I stopped watching from week to week after season 2.Now I just have them all recorded and watch the whole season in one weekend,I highly recommend this method of viewing.
The third season was interesting and actually pretty good,imo.I thought that the show was picking up a good head of steam until the last scene of the finale.I think that the flash forward concept isn't doing the show any favors.You see for sure who lives in the future but it makes the time on the island less exciting because in certain situations you kinda know what's going to happen.
I think that you said in a previous post that you hated the Nikki and Paulo episode.I though that was one of the best episodes of the season.Very Twilight Zone-ish and a great stand-alone episode,but ultimately,it seems that it really won't have any bearing on the final outcome of things.If that's the case,then looking back at it,that episode was nothing more than a filler and something to buy the writers time to figure out what the hell they are going to do next.
RKO3:16
The search button is in the right hand corner.
"According to my sources,Claire (Emilie De Ravin) will not be a regular in season five, but rather she will be on a "holding contract." However, after her sojourn in the underworld, or wherever she is, she will return to us for season six."
For the 2 alternate endings head to the link below and scroll down a bit. You can't miss them.
http://darkufo.blogspot.com/
For the 2 alternate endings head to the link below and scroll down a bit. You can't miss them.
http://darkufo.blogspot.com/
My point is they wouldn't include something like the four toed statue, the monster, the numbers or anything else like that if they didn't have an explanation for it already.
Im not saying that they have already written the final season, but they have confirmed that they can explain every part of the series' mythology, which they will give in the final 2 seasons.
zell
If you wish to live wisely, ignore sayings including this one.
That is a very optimistic view and somewhat naive.They introduced the idea of Walt having some sort of power and look where that got him and what about Nikki and Paulo?I'm sure that there was an idea of some of these things when they were introduced,but I just don't see any way that everything can be answered without some convoluted explanation.
Yeah, what about Nikki and Paulo? It was a slight change in the storyline to focus on two unknown characters, instead of the star cast. Nikki and Paulo were both buried alive, obviously killing them. Is there anything that needs explained about them? Their storyline was totally plausible, even if somewhat far fetched.
Walt is still a major fixture in Lost and will no doubt be featured again in the next season. He did say in the finale about Jeremy Bentham, or Locke, meeting him off the island, so do you not think that these things will be explained, or even shown?
zell
If you wish to live wisely, ignore sayings including this one.
I just watched that part again and he actually says "if you find her" instead of "you need to find her".Anyway,good catch,I didn't hear that the first time.I guess my surround sound drowned out what he was saying,I heard it pretty good with it off though.
It's funny,because I just watched it again and put on the closed caption and it reads [whispering indistinctly].That really sucks for the hearing impaired viewers.
zell
If you wish to live wisely, ignore sayings including this one.
Like I said before,the Nikki Paulo storyline,if nothing else, was a device to buy the writers a little bit of time to figure out their next move.I'm still not 100% sure if they are really dead even though all signs point to the fact that they are.In the end,even though I liked that story,it was pointless to the plot of the show.
And again about Walt,they were trying to make it like he had some sort of power and now there is absolutely no focus on that.It's just like in professional wrestling when they make up some lame ass storyline or character and all of a sudden, they drop that story or that wrestler becomes another character and you're just supposed to forget about it.It's almost the same thing.
The whole thing with Mr. Eko illustrates this perfectly,hell,all of the survivors from the tail section(with the exception of Bernard) you could say this about.They ended up dead and now the only reason any of it matters is to give Micheal motivation for redemption,but looking back at it,they could have put anybody in the position that Micheal was in on the freighter and it really wouldn't have made any difference,thus,ultimately making all of the characters from the tail section (again,with the exception of Bernard) pointless.
And another loose end,Libby in the nuthouse with Hurley.They ended that episode like it was supposed to be some reveling aspect of the story that would effect future events,but that whole thing just whithered away without any fan fair.
Sorry dude,I totally understand where you are coming from,but I just don't agree with it.
Its a TV show! Mr Eko was a really interesting character while he was on it, but he got killed. You can't say his whole storyline was pointless, because it was supposed to be entertaining while it was on. Michael, Jin, Ana Lucia, and everyone who died have had a hand in making the show entertaining. But now they are dead there is no way you can say they are pointless.
Thats like saying when the show ends "Well that was completely pointless because its over". It entertained you and kept you interested, didn't it? Thats what TV shows are supposed to do. The same can be said for every other character that has appeared on the show, but is now gone. They entertained you, therefore they are not pointless.
As for Libby, it has been confirmed that the Libby/Hurley mental hospital situation will be explained next season. No doubt with alot more stuff, and as I said before, Walt. Who knows, maybe Nikki and Paulo will be referenced, or even be a major part of the storyline in the final 2 seasons.
calpoon
Yes, I bribed and cheated to get this far
I think the point of the Walt's seeming powers wasn't that they would be showcased to some specific effect, but just to highlight the idea that there is something unique and powerful about him. That he's special. Now contrast that with what we now know about Locke. The whole thing has to do with the fact that it wasn't just random chance that brought flight 815 to the island, but that those people were meant to be there. For what ultimate purpose? well, that is what we will find out in the end.
with the plot it would have been hard to incorporate him in season 3, and I would have liked to see him more in season 4, but I think they just wanted to show him tentatively to see what viewer reaction would be. If Micheal is really dead, then there's not much point in having him around, because the characterization for both of them was always about the dynamic of their relationship. I think it could still work to have him as a character though, and it was fine for Hurley to always play his voice of the Audience and say "Walt, you've grown." but not give some explanation for it to fit the storyline. we all know what the deal is and I think that's a situation where we can just suspend our disbelief and accept the fact for what it is.
As far as the thing with Nikki and Paolo goes...One thing that you need to understand is that there are different writers on the show. that's why you get these different types of episodes. that was just something that one of the writers wanted to do and the overall viewer response was positive. I didn't care for it myself, but thats OK.
It's always been an inside joke on the show that there are all these other survivors that you never see and so they liked to occasionally have them get the spotlight and point that out, like "why are you 8 people always going off and doing crazy shit?". But they pretty much killed everyone but the core characters off this season and Damon said that he was happy to finally get rid of them because they aren't really necessary.
The producers continually promise that we will get an explanation for Libby, so I am assuming we will at some point and that it does have something to do with the plot.
If you are reading this far down RKO:316. what is your "source"? that sounded ominous.
with the plot it would have been hard to incorporate him in season 3, and I would have liked to see him more in season 4, but I think they just wanted to show him tentatively to see what viewer reaction would be. If Micheal is really dead, then there's not much point in having him around, because the characterization for both of them was always about the dynamic of their relationship. I think it could still work to have him as a character though, and it was fine for Hurley to always play his voice of the Audience and say "Walt, you've grown." but not give some explanation for it to fit the storyline. we all know what the deal is and I think that's a situation where we can just suspend our disbelief and accept the fact for what it is.
As far as the thing with Nikki and Paolo goes...One thing that you need to understand is that there are different writers on the show. that's why you get these different types of episodes. that was just something that one of the writers wanted to do and the overall viewer response was positive. I didn't care for it myself, but thats OK.
It's always been an inside joke on the show that there are all these other survivors that you never see and so they liked to occasionally have them get the spotlight and point that out, like "why are you 8 people always going off and doing crazy shit?". But they pretty much killed everyone but the core characters off this season and Damon said that he was happy to finally get rid of them because they aren't really necessary.
The producers continually promise that we will get an explanation for Libby, so I am assuming we will at some point and that it does have something to do with the plot.
If you are reading this far down RKO:316. what is your "source"? that sounded ominous.
zell
If you wish to live wisely, ignore sayings including this one.
Like I said,i understand where you are coming from but you obviously can't see it from my angle,so I will just say that we can respectfully agree to disagree and leave it at that.
Oh,to calpoon,you can hear what Sawyer says to Kate if you listen close enough.I mentioned it in the post right after RKO's.
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