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Mexico's Immigration Law: We should try it in the US

stampede2873

Junior Olympic Pole Vaulter
2006 Article

Mexico has a radical idea for a rational immigration policy that most Americans would love. However, Mexican officials haven’t been sharing that idea with us as they press for our Congress to adopt the McCain-Kennedy immigration reform bill.

That's too bad, because Mexico, which annually deports more illegal aliens than the United States does, has much to teach us about how it handles the immigration issue. Under Mexican law, it is a felony to be an illegal alien in Mexico.

At a time when the Supreme Court and many politicians seek to bring American law in line with foreign legal norms, it’s noteworthy that nobody has argued that the U.S. look at how Mexico deals with immigration and what it might teach us about how best to solve
our illegal immigration problem. Mexico has a single, streamlined law that ensures that foreign visitors and immigrants are:


in the country legally;
have the means to sustain themselves economically;
not destined to be burdens on society;
of economic and social benefit to society;
of good character and have no criminal records; and
contributors to the general well-being of the nation.
The law also ensures that:

immigration authorities have a record of each foreign visitor;
foreign visitors do not violate their visa status;
foreign visitors are banned from interfering in the country’s internal politics;
foreign visitors who enter under false pretenses are imprisoned or deported;
foreign visitors violating the terms of their entry are imprisoned or deported;
those who aid in illegal immigration will be sent to prison.
Who could disagree with such a law? It makes perfect sense. The Mexican constitution strictly defines the rights of citizens -- and the denial of many fundamental rights to non-citizens, illegal and illegal. Under the constitution, the Ley General de Población, or
General Law on Population, spells out specifically the country's immigration policy.

It is an interesting law -- and one that should cause us all to ask, Why is our great southern neighbor pushing us to water down our own immigration laws and policies, when its own immigration restrictions are the toughest on the continent? If a felony is a
crime punishable by more than one year in prison, then Mexican law makes it a felony to be an illegal alien in Mexico.

If the United States adopted such statutes, Mexico no doubt would denounce it as a manifestation of American racism and bigotry.

We looked at the immigration provisions of the Mexican constitution. [1] Now let's look at Mexico's main immigration law.

Mexico welcomes only foreigners who will be useful to Mexican society:

Foreigners are admitted into Mexico "according to their possibilities of contributing to national progress." (Article 32)
Immigration officials must "ensure" that "immigrants will be useful elements for the country and that they have the necessary funds for their sustenance" and for their dependents. (Article 34)
Foreigners may be barred from the country if their presence upsets "the equilibrium of the national demographics," when foreigners are deemed detrimental to "economic or national interests," when they do not behave like good citizens in their own country, when they have broken Mexican laws, and when "they are not found to be physically or mentally healthy." (Article 37)
The Secretary of Governance may "suspend or prohibit the admission of foreigners when he determines it to be in the national interest." (Article 38)
Mexican authorities must keep track of every single person in the country:

Federal, local and municipal police must cooperate with federal immigration authorities upon request, i.e., to assist in the arrests of illegal immigrants. (Article 73)
A National Population Registry keeps track of "every single individual who comprises the population of the country," and verifies each individual's identity. (Articles 85 and 86)

A national Catalog of Foreigners tracks foreign tourists and immigrants (Article 87), and assigns each individual with a unique tracking number (Article 91).

Foreigners with fake papers, or who enter the country under false pretenses, may be imprisoned:

Foreigners with fake immigration papers may be fined or imprisoned. (Article 116)
Foreigners who sign government documents "with a signature that is false or different from that which he normally uses" are subject to fine and imprisonment. (Article 116)
Foreigners who fail to obey the rules will be fined, deported, and/or imprisoned as felons:

Foreigners who fail to obey a deportation order are to be punished. (Article 117)
Foreigners who are deported from Mexico and attempt to re-enter the country without authorization can be imprisoned for up to 10 years. (Article 118)
Foreigners who violate the terms of their visa may be sentenced to up to six years in prison (Articles 119, 120 and 121). Foreigners who misrepresent the terms of their visa while in Mexico -- such as working with out a permit -- can also be imprisoned.

Under Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony. The General Law on Population says,

"A penalty of up to two years in prison and a fine of three hundred to five thousand pesos will be imposed on the foreigner who enters the country illegally." (Article 123)
Foreigners with legal immigration problems may be deported from Mexico instead of being imprisoned. (Article 125)
Foreigners who "attempt against national sovereignty or security" will be deported. (Article 126)
Mexicans who help illegal aliens enter the country are themselves considered criminals under the law:

A Mexican who marries a foreigner with the sole objective of helping the foreigner live in the country is subject to up to five years in prison. (Article 127)
Shipping and airline companies that bring undocumented foreigners into Mexico will be fined. (Article 132)
All of the above runs contrary to what Mexican leaders are demanding of the United States. The stark contrast between Mexico's immigration practices versus its American
immigration preachings is telling. It gives a clear picture of the Mexican government's agenda: to have a one-way immigration relationship with the United States.

Let's call Mexico's bluff on its unwarranted interference in U.S. immigration policy. Let's propose, just to make a point, that the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) member nations standardize their immigration laws by using Mexico's own law as a model.

And some of you thought The US Immigration laws were strict!! Hoo-Boy, you were wrong!
 

Member2019

1,000 posts to go for my own user title!
US immigration laws are tame ...

The left-wingers try to make our laws seem inhumane. They are quite the opposite! And that's before left-wingers try to figure out how they are going to pay for things.

It used to be that people came to the US to work hard and make a better future for their kids. They endured the hardships. My ancestors did.

But now the politicians keep wanting to extend entitlements farther and farther. And since many illegal immigrants can vote in various districts, or at least those who assist them can, so many -- from the politicians to businesses who don't have to directly pay for the services they use -- love it.

And we, the American citizen, get fucked.
 

stampede2873

Junior Olympic Pole Vaulter
Another immigrant thread!

Yay!!!
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Sorry Artimus... really I am, but with the other thread (that I started)on Pelosi and immigration... I thought it relevant for all to know what Mexico's immigration laws were like compared to ours.

Just some knowledge for the argu**... I mean talking points...er comments!
 

Artimus

Never argue with a fool. People might not know the difference.
No worries Stampede.

Just think, if you guys had just annexed Mexico when you had the chance (1848) you wouldn't have to get all worked up.
 

DukeLaCrosse

I eat, sleep, and live FreeOnes!
Sorry Artimus... really I am, but with the other thread (that I started)on Pelosi and immigration... I thought it relevant for all to know what Mexico's immigration laws were like compared to ours.

Just some knowledge for the argu**... I mean talking points...er comments!

if your so right wing why don't you get off the porn site and go to church and start praying for our souls and maybe run for office and do something about it
 

stampede2873

Junior Olympic Pole Vaulter
if your so right wing why don't you get off the porn site and go to church and start praying for our souls and maybe run for office and do something about it

I'd love to... but I'm agnostic. I don't go to church... but if I did pray, I would pray for you to be a little more articulate and not so brash.
 

DukeLaCrosse

I eat, sleep, and live FreeOnes!
I'd love to... but I'm agnostic. I don't go to church... but if I did pray, I would pray for you to be a little more articulate and not so brash.

i'm too brash huh. i'll try to be more reserved and articulate in the future like your hero rush limbaugh
 

stampede2873

Junior Olympic Pole Vaulter
i'm too brash huh. i'll try to be more reserved and articulate in the future like your hero rush limbaugh

*sigh* I do not like Rush Limbaugh. Do your assuptions come from a Liberal pamphlet?
Use that lump 3 feet above your ass, and give me a genuine arguement... will you!

Using your logic I feel I would have to come back with the "I'm rubber your glue" elementary school comeback.
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calpoon

Yes, I bribed and cheated to get this far
so let me get this straight, giving illegal immigrants extended jail sentences, and charging the tax payers thousands of dollars in legal fees and holding costs is supposed to somehow help the country?

I don't get it. How the hell does it make sense to punish someone that we don't want to live here by paying their living expenses?

Also it is a totally different situation in Mexico. Nobody wants to illegally enter the country because they want to stay there as a resident, they do it because they are already a criminal and they are passing through the country and they want to avoid having to show ID and being searched. Probably most of the illegal immigrants into Mexico are in fact fleeing from the United States on their way to south America.
 

stampede2873

Junior Olympic Pole Vaulter
Also it is a totally different situation in Mexico. Nobody wants to illegally enter the country because they want to stay there as a resident, they do it because they are already a criminal and they are passing through the country and they want to avoid having to show ID and being searched. Probably most of the illegal immigrants into Mexico are in fact fleeing from the United States on their way to south America.

That doesn't matter... Vincente Fox cannot cry for the US to have a more open border policy and then have such complete restrictions for his own country. You simply can't have it both ways.
 

gunslingingbird

I'm too lazy to set a usertitle.
That doesn't matter... Vincente Fox cannot cry for the US to have a more open border policy and then have such complete restrictions for his own country. You simply can't have it both ways.

Vicente Fox can cry all he wants, but it's not gonna matter; he's not president anymore. His term ended in 2006. Mexico's current president is Felipe Calderón. :hatsoff:
 

scooter

If you had 3 wishes, they'd all be Freeones.
Our government (that includes Obama AND McCain) are afraid to do something that might, um, uphold the Constitution and maybe even provide for the common defense.
 

stampede2873

Junior Olympic Pole Vaulter
Vicente Fox can cry all he wants, but it's not gonna matter; he's not president anymore. His term ended in 2006. Mexico's current president is Felipe Calderón. :hatsoff:


Oh yeah... sorry about that. :bowdown:

I admit I was in a hurry when I posted that, I had to leave for work... and at 3 something in the morning, whose got a brain? Not me.
 

D-rock

I'm too lazy to set a usertitle.
Vicente Fox can cry all he wants, but it's not gonna matter; he's not president anymore. His term ended in 2006. Mexico's current president is Felipe Calderón. :hatsoff:

I don't know if I would worry about getting it right. At the rate it’s going he’s not going to last that long when he is going to get virtually replaced by some drug lord. :1orglaugh
 
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