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Minutemen Group (in Ariz.) Arrested For Murdering Family

Facial_King

I'm too lazy to set a usertitle.
Well, to be clear, they only successfully killed 2 out of 3 of them. :rolleyes:

http://trueslant.com/jeffhoard/2009/06/14/minuteman-group-arrested-for-murdering-family/

Excerpt:

A group of Minutemen took some time off from patriotically patrolling the border to conduct their own drug raid in Arivaca, Arizona. During the unofficial raid (where they apparently planned on stealing the victims money and drugs,) they decided the best option was to kill all suspects, including an 8 year-old girl. The mother survived her planned execution and was able to call the police...

The ringleader behind the murders was Shawna Forde, head of “MAD” or “Minuteman American Defense” you can read all about her by visiting online profile, here.

http://minutemenamericandefense.org/pages/shawnas_corner.htm

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Truly charming people!
 

DukeLaCrosse

I eat, sleep, and live FreeOnes!
right wing nut jobs are going crazy lately
 

titsrock

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Is there any difference between these terrorists and other terrorists? We may need to have a Southwest Surge of our own to put an end to these terrorists...
 

AnubisZ

I'm secretly in love with my sister
That Shawna Forde chick is pretty uneducated herself. Her spelling was terrible. lmao
 
If this becomes a trend...No, no fucking way :worried:
 

titsrock

I'm too lazy to set a usertitle.
Are we shocked, shocked that this part of the "immigration story" hasn't made it to the Foxnews homepage yet?

When the dumb are armed, dumb occurs....

One of those links leads to a pic of her in a Ford GT? Wow...no wonder she needed to get her hands on that stash...
 

Facetious

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Oh NO ! Mr. Bill !!

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yet another conviction of them all kind of post / story. :1orglaugh

Damn those minute men ! BAN those minute men !!

It's funny - whenever a liberal gets snagged, indicted or is under some type of criminal investigation, it's always an isolated incident, yet when there's an allegation pending against anyone or anything even remotely on the other side, It's a conviction of the whole.
 

Facial_King

I'm too lazy to set a usertitle.
Wow, I just perused her lovely little site (which, yes, is - unsurprisingly, I guess - filled with spelling and grammatical errors) and I hope someone saves/archives this thing. There's no doubt she has all the standard far-right/GOP talking points down (Lou Dobbs & Co.) and then some. A taste (in case her page/site goes down):

"A mother is sitting belly up to the bar as loud Mexican music roars and the dance floor is full with shirts tossing in a variety of colors and cowboy hats, the sounds of boots tap, tap, tap along the floor as they turn their partners around.

The Mexican Madre is telling her primo that she had a proud moment that afternoon when her son had his picture taken and was flashing the gang sign's of " Loco Vhatto forever" Se Say's her primo and produces a picture of her new baby niece and proudly displays it and say's with a wide grin future "Chola" they laugh as patron is shared the smell of tequila in the air.

I'm the only white woman in the Cantina "as always" I go by Ruby, they all treat me well.

as the evening progresses so does the crowd and you see the different gangs come roll in peddling the wares "drugs" All speak Spanish no English in this Establishment.

I am at the bar listening and talking with some of the women as they laugh and say I'm a loco whetta. No other wetta's dare to come in because the chola's that hang in there will kick their asses. "Big girls" they continue to tell me how funny they think it is when they are out in public white women will stay clear of them out of fear. They love this power to them we appear weak and timid and they enjoy bulling their way around and that in the public schools their kids run it and threaten the other kids with violence.

Last month a 17 white girl was pulled from her car in front of her child and beaten in the middle of the street because they were in their click in the middle of a parking lot and she honked at them to move. It was at a daycare where she was dropping her son off. They didn't like that she honked so they beat her half to death

This is the stuff we need to be addressing as uncomfortable as it may be for some these are the hard truths that are in our neighborhoods.

After they cross the border they are taking over area's of our cities, neighborhoods, schools with their way of life witch is:

1 Corruption
2 Lie's
3 Drug dealing
4 welfare fraud
5 stealing
6 Filthiness
7 Gang code of ethics
8 violence
9 no respect for existing Americans
10 Hate

I could continue this list I have seen first hand and have been getting to know people in the Hispanic community so that when they say we should respect the plight of these pour people do not be fooled for one moment they think we are weak and stupid plus we don't speak their language so they operate their own life styles under the radar.

I would say 90% of all patrons here are illegal some just got here yesterday These are not proud people they are nothing more then thugs.

My stomach turns and the disbelief that I feel cannot be soothed with words.

The few decent people that I have met or watched keep silent out of fear of their own the younger generation completely disregards their elders, and then you have the Madres that brag and boast about the gang their children are in.

What I find more amazing is the Mexicans on the southern border or throughout AZ most speak English and seem to have some respect, The ones coming straight to your home towns have none they don't care and have no respect for our laws and school.

But drugs is plentiful within these communities. Not Pot Mexicans on a whole do not smoke pot but they love the white stuff. There is always a few dealers outside and in making their sales.

Where are the local law enforcement this is what I will find out this week. I will be taking pictures, And going in with the intent of blowing my cover to then see the vibe.

I laughed when I was told to watch out for the Chola's in the Bar ( I snickered to myself because I would be the one white woman that has no fear and it would be their first mistake the heat alone and due to who I am)

I will share the pictures and after action report of when I go in with my border security jacket, I am exposing myself will stand in lot take down all plates and photo the dealers."

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What "border security jacket" is she talking about? Don't tell me that the border patrol actually hires homicidally racist barfly morons like this!!

Anyway, I'm glad that she's protecting us from those thuggish Mexicans and their "violence" by (possibly, we can only be sure via a trial, I know)... killing people (including an 8-year-old kid!).

Brilliant.
 

Facial_King

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Damn those minute men ! BAN those minute men !!

It's funny - whenever a liberal gets snagged, indicted or is under some type of criminal investigation, it's always an isolated incident, yet when there's an allegation pending against anyone or anything even remotely on the other side, It's a conviction of the whole.

1. While a lot of reasonable people might be thinking or saying "Damn those minutemen!" right now, nobody has suggested that they be banned (unless you mean that they be banned from impersonating law enforcement, which all citizens are by law).

2. This isn't a conviction of the whole, but it might say something about the possible outcomes of exposure to racist, hateful propaganda.

3. I think you're engaging in the "No true Scotsman" fallacy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman
 

CunningStunts

I changed my middle-name to Freeones
These people aren't terrorists, nor are they "Minutemen." They are stupid, cruel criminals.

Be careful not to extrapolate a couple of incidents to represent millions of people, it's not logically valid.
 

titsrock

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^The elements of this particular crime seem to fit the terrorism pattern (violent civilian killing with no consideration for innocent life, money and drugs needed to *feed the organization*)...

If it walks like a duck?
 

CunningStunts

I changed my middle-name to Freeones
^The elements of this particular crime seem to fit the terrorism pattern (violent civilian killing with no consideration for innocent life, money and drugs needed to *feed the organization*)...

If it walks like a duck?

Why not just call it a "hate crime"? Though I've never understood that phrase... most crime seems done out of hate to me.
 

titsrock

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Let's pile that on to the charge too. :thumbsup: The values that the Minutemen claim to support seem to be built on a racist foundation...
 

Facial_King

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These people aren't terrorists, nor are they "Minutemen." They are stupid, cruel criminals.

Be careful not to extrapolate a couple of incidents to represent millions of people, it's not logically valid.

So, are they people or animals?

:dunno:
 

Facetious

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right wing nut jobs are going crazy lately


As opposed to left winged one's who would rather live in squalor and incessantly bitch about how badly the world and capitalism is treating them :crying: boo hooo !
Shit, some of these comrades are so deeply invested in their marxian doctrine, they'd refuse a lucrative private sector employment opportunity because it violates some weird code :dunno: and they chide religious people ? !!
Weren't these people referred to as "useful simpletons".





Amongst who did the Bolsheviks slaughter ?
Answer Those who helped them attain power

Good luck with that guys ! :D
 

lovejoy

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These people aren't terrorists, nor are they "Minutemen." They are stupid, cruel criminals.

Be careful not to extrapolate a couple of incidents to represent millions of people, it's not logically valid.

There are are 1 million Canadian living in California and another hundred thousands Canadian living and working in Texas in our southern border.

The so-called Minuteman can distinguish a Mexican from an American, but can the so-called Minuteman can distinguish a Canadian from an America in Texas and California.
 
So, the new super-heroes : "Minutemen" - somebody start the trailer :rolleyes:
 

Jane Burgess

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These people aren't terrorists, nor are they "Minutemen." They are stupid, cruel criminals.

Be careful not to extrapolate a couple of incidents to represent millions of people, it's not logically valid.


I have to agree. There are a lot of citizens that watch the border. Almost all of them when they see people crossing the boder illegally call the police. This is the first case of vilolence I have heard. The government needs to do a better job of watching the border. It is not also a racist thing to do. Many people are tired of illegal aliens commiting crimes and sucking up money. :thumbsup:
 

Facial_King

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These people aren't terrorists, nor are they "Minutemen." They are stupid, cruel criminals.

Well, I'll leave the "terrorists" designation for another debate, but clearly the people at issue here were/are BOTH Minutemen AND stupid, cruel criminals.
 
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