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Obama Admin Says We’re Dangerous, Rightwing Extremists

hedonis

I can set my own custom title!
No- no oops. I was willing to give the guy a chance after he got elected, and I do think that no matter who the guy is, the office of the President of the US demands a certain amount of respect, but the same anger and viciousness that was directed at Bush for 8 years has now been turned into the energy that his unwavering supporters use to defend him.

And can anyone really, honestly, truthfully look at themselves in the mirror, and say that these first few months with this president and this congress have been anything but a shameless, power-grabbing spendathon? The expansion of our government here just since January makes me shudder.

I mean, who is actually ok with statism? It's funny how many liberal folks condemn everything the government is and does- but they're ok with them controlling everything? From medicine, to their salary rate, to just about anything else you can think of.

This notion of 95% of people getting a tax cut is ludicrous, and not for the reasons that guys like Rush and Hannity say it is. Most people focus on one thing when they think of taxes- income withholding tax. It's really nowhere near that simple, folks. Take a look, and really dig into what you are paying in taxes (here in the US)- the income tax you pay is a sliver of the bullshit taxation that you are subjected to.

FICA, social security, medicare, and state income tax, and these are just what come out of your paycheck. Don't forget you often have local and state sales taxes, and some congressmen want a FEDERAL sales tax. There are taxes on certain products (i.e. cigarettes, alcohol), there are taxes on your property if you own a home or land. Taxes, taxes, taxes. I swear, there's probably a sign in the US capitol that reads "I came, I saw, I taxed."

I won't go into the numbers of who pays what, or the most, or any of that. You've all read it or heard it, and depending on your political leanings, you either believe it or you don't, but lastly, if you honestly believe that "corporate tax" is something we should be doing to beat down all these evil companies that do sinister things like... hire people, and produce products, I want you to know, you're paying that one too.

Corporations don't just cut a check every year to pay their corporate tax. They don't go to a tax service and have them done. No, folks, they work all that tax right into the price of whatever it is they do or make, and then.... you get to pay for that too.

I'm not Republican. I'm not Democrat- I'm some kind of weird, liberpublitariancrat hybrid. I have a lot of conservative views, and some liberal views. But the kind of attitude that this president, and his ardent supporters have is, to me, a bit worrysome. Even the strongest supporters of Bush knew when to step back and call the guy an idiot. With Obama, there are some folks who just won't see anything he does as wrong or bad for the country.

And I'm not saying Obama is Hitler- my little joke was more a stab at a. the folks who called Bush a nazi for 8 years, but fail to see how a guy taking over a country during tough economic times, with fanatical followers, chanted slogans, and a huge, power-grabbing government could have some kind of similarity to something historical ;)

and b. The fact that as our nation leans on the weakly, shallowly planted pole of socialism, most people don't realize that Adolph Hitler? He considered himself a socialist.


Now let's all be friends and wait for North Korea to nuke something.


H
 

stampede2873

Junior Olympic Pole Vaulter
No- no oops. I was willing to give the guy a chance after he got elected, and I do think that no matter who the guy is, the office of the President of the US demands a certain amount of respect, but the same anger and viciousness that was directed at Bush for 8 years has now been turned into the energy that his unwavering supporters use to defend him.

And can anyone really, honestly, truthfully look at themselves in the mirror, and say that these first few months with this president and this congress have been anything but a shameless, power-grabbing spendathon? The expansion of our government here just since January makes me shudder.

I mean, who is actually ok with statism? It's funny how many liberal folks condemn everything the government is and does- but they're ok with them controlling everything? From medicine, to their salary rate, to just about anything else you can think of.

This notion of 95% of people getting a tax cut is ludicrous, and not for the reasons that guys like Rush and Hannity say it is. Most people focus on one thing when they think of taxes- income withholding tax. It's really nowhere near that simple, folks. Take a look, and really dig into what you are paying in taxes (here in the US)- the income tax you pay is a sliver of the bullshit taxation that you are subjected to.

FICA, social security, medicare, and state income tax, and these are just what come out of your paycheck. Don't forget you often have local and state sales taxes, and some congressmen want a FEDERAL sales tax. There are taxes on certain products (i.e. cigarettes, alcohol), there are taxes on your property if you own a home or land. Taxes, taxes, taxes. I swear, there's probably a sign in the US capitol that reads "I came, I saw, I taxed."

I won't go into the numbers of who pays what, or the most, or any of that. You've all read it or heard it, and depending on your political leanings, you either believe it or you don't, but lastly, if you honestly believe that "corporate tax" is something we should be doing to beat down all these evil companies that do sinister things like... hire people, and produce products, I want you to know, you're paying that one too.

Corporations don't just cut a check every year to pay their corporate tax. They don't go to a tax service and have them done. No, folks, they work all that tax right into the price of whatever it is they do or make, and then.... you get to pay for that too.

I'm not Republican. I'm not Democrat- I'm some kind of weird, liberpublitariancrat hybrid. I have a lot of conservative views, and some liberal views. But the kind of attitude that this president, and his ardent supporters have is, to me, a bit worrysome. Even the strongest supporters of Bush knew when to step back and call the guy an idiot. With Obama, there are some folks who just won't see anything he does as wrong or bad for the country.

And I'm not saying Obama is Hitler- my little joke was more a stab at a. the folks who called Bush a nazi for 8 years, but fail to see how a guy taking over a country during tough economic times, with fanatical followers, chanted slogans, and a huge, power-grabbing government could have some kind of similarity to something historical ;)

and b. The fact that as our nation leans on the weakly, shallowly planted pole of socialism, most people don't realize that Adolph Hitler? He considered himself a socialist.


Now let's all be friends and wait for North Korea to nuke something.


H

I see absolutely nothing wrong with what you said. Not at all.

This is what the tea parties were about, not your political leaning but concern over the government exploiting its power, to spend money it doesn't have.

I thank you for stating your opinion.
 

calpoon

Yes, I bribed and cheated to get this far
and b. The fact that as our nation leans on the weakly, shallowly planted pole of socialism, most people don't realize that Adolph Hitler? He considered himself a socialist.

Hitler as the avatar for world liberalism?

Come on now, H. you had a perfectly intelligent and reasonable post up till this point.

what exactly were Hitler's policies to tax the wealthy and spend on social services? I don't remember reading about those ones.
 

Facetious

Moderated
The expansion of our government here just since January makes me shudder.

The only reason that the guy would fast track all of this oppression as swiftly as he has is because he knows that his policies are unpopular and un American.

I hope that this current radical agenda-ed congress get their asses stuffed come 2010.
I also hope that more of those who voted for this president would see the light to the fact nothing sticks to this guy ! And you thought that Clinton was slick.
This pres. is 100x the slick as compared to slick willy :laugh:

As it turns out, everything that we suspected of Reverend "Wrong" Wright and his sermon are true in the sense that Obama has been indoctrinated with "Black Liberation Theology", a Marxist derivative.

Now let's all be friends and wait for North Korea to nuke something.
Or Iran Or Venezuela or . . . .:hammer:

Hey, It's the Axis Of Evil now "coming home to roost" that we were warned about !
 

Philbert

Banned
You think a bowel movement deserves a new thread.

You often seem confused...you're thinking of Chef, not stampede2873.

Reminds me of that post you made trumpeting the fact that Obama's rating's were still high, while the Republicans were at a 25 year low...it turns out the article showed Democrats ranked even lower than the Republicans in that doctored poll, but you missed that fact.
And the fact that the 25 year low was only in their poll history, it had nothing to do with overall polls.
Confused and flummoxed:rofl:!
 

Facetious

Moderated
Reminds me of that post you made trumpeting the fact that Obama's rating's were still high, while the Republicans were at a 25 year low...it turns out the article showed Democrats ranked even lower than the Republicans in that doctored poll, but you missed that fact.

The poll showing Obama popularity within the republican party, last checked was something in the order of 20 something percent, conversely, the poll revealing the popularity of Obama within the dem. circle was some 80 + percentile.

This just goes to show how polarizing that this man is ! Look at the spread between 20(+/-) percent and 80 (+/-) percent. It's an unprecedented level of division !

gotta go I'll source it later
 

Will E Worm

Conspiracy...
Another valid point as to how racist B.O. and his administration are.

He sure is. ;)

Do you reject “federal authority in favor of state or local authority,” or “government authority entirely”? Are you “dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration”?

If so, you are a dangerous, rightwing extremist according to Obama’s Department of Homeland Security, which bans the use of the word “terrorist” unless it’s applied to us rightwing extremists who, for example, are so extreme as to view the grisly murder of the unborn in their mothers’ wombs as cold-blooded murder.

Yes and yes. I'm tired of this propaganda from Socialist Communist.

This is America we are supposed to be the land of the free and free to believe in what we so choose.

And, if the government is going to act like this, how much longer until another Civil War breaks out because of these traitorous despots?
 

calpoon

Yes, I bribed and cheated to get this far
That's right, you show Obama just how wrong he is to call you dangerous extremists by staging an armed insurrection against the government.
 

calpoon

Yes, I bribed and cheated to get this far
I gotta respect you Will E, I've never met anyone who was so incorruptible.
 

bustybbwlover

I'm so great I'm jelous of myself.
traitorous despots...hmmm...like george w bush who sent our children off to die in far away countries for a lie about weapons of mass destruction? my favorite statistic is how more of our troops have died in iraq than died in the trade centers....awesome
 

Philbert

Banned
traitorous despots...hmmm...like george w bush who sent our children off to die in far away countries for a lie about weapons of mass destruction? my favorite statistic is how more of our troops have died in iraq than died in the trade centers....awesome

You don't really know what you're trying to say, do you?
I doubt if anyone understood that brain-fart rant...
 

Philbert

Banned
then perhaps they should learn to read cuz it's really not very complicated

Well then, I'll type slowly so you can learn as you go.

Who sent our children away to far-away countries to die? My 7 year old is still here...did your kids get sent away somewhere to die? Details please...if it's not BS.
So, how many active duty military died in the Twin Towers? Do you have actual info? And what were active duty military doing in the Twin Towers, a civilian business center?
Since Iraq is a years long combat mission, how does that equate with the Twin Towers?
What lie about WMD are you referring to? That the Iraqis had them? Did the thousands of Iranians and 5000+ Kurdish villagers die of sudden heart attacks or some mysterious event that just mimicked poison gas?
What was that nuclear reactor the Israelis bombed in Iraq supposed to be, then? A highly radioactive Baby Milk Factory? "Got milk, Saddam?"
Seems like you are making things up as you go along, then mixing events together to make some kinda "wise" comment that makes no real sense...
Did I type slow enough for you? Did you learn to read a little better?:rofl:
 

bustybbwlover

I'm so great I'm jelous of myself.
so soldiers aren't someones child? as far as i knew every human on earth was someones child and no i don't have children to die in iraq just friends. i would like to know exactly how iraq ever equated with the twin towers. and also where are these wmds that bush claimed to exist? yes at one point sadam released a chemical weapons upon the kurds and yet...why didn't he use it against the US when we invaded? and since you demand proof, show me an article about this nuclear reactor you claim to exist
here's an article about hussein and al qaeda where the pentagon says that hussein and al qaeda are unrelated
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/03/13/alqaeda.saddam/
and article about iraq's wmds at the time of the invasion, not in 1988
http://www.asiantribune.com/oldsite/show_article.php?id=971 (just for you this article is from the World Socialist Web Site :D)
another article about how saddam used chemical weapons against the kurds in 1988
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1779.htm

oh i don't know what the fuck you're talking about on the active duty soldiers dying in the trade towers, so some proof, but i do know more active duty soldiers have died in iraq than there were civilians who died in the trade towers
 
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