Obama bows to king of Saudi Arabia?

[calpoon]

yee haw, let's piss off the rest of the world, that will really help our economy.

 

[BlueBalls]

Isnt it just common courtesy? Bush bowed to The Queen :dunno: when your are in the pressance of "royalty" there are certain things you are expected to do. Now, I guess that's rather odd for the most powerful man in the world to bow to someone else. But I am sure that if there was a similar set of protocols for when another world leader is to meet the US president they would do the same. I don't think it's at dissrespectful to the president or the US, it's just something you have to do as a world leader.

Why is it such an issue. I'm sure Bush and many former presidents before him did exactly the same, it is Saudi Arabia after all.

 

[meesterperfect]

It is a big deal. The king just stood there....he did not bow to Obama. Obama, the pansy, bowed to him. It is a sign of inferiority and weakness....something he should not be projecting. Don't give me that "But that's how it's done over there" bullshit. It's not. He's the goddamn president of the greatest country on Earth. We don't fucking bow to anyone.

I can't believe I am saying this.......but I miss the cowboy. This Obama fuck is selling us out, and I believe that he will continue to sell us out, and like a true fucking liberal, is going to keep apologizing to the rest of the world, a better part of which are in better places right now because of us. How quickly they forget.

I've already had enough of Obama and his fucked-up-jaw wife......four years of this nonsense?! Goddamn it, something needs to happen.

you may be right about the bowing.
i'd have to see it.
if they bowed to each other.......ok.
I'm really not sure exactly what happened

 

[sporty_carr]

Pretty much what I would've expected from our lilly livered, socialist, communist, marxist, fascist, wahabi muslim, terrorist sympathizing, no birth certificate, teleprompter dependent, Kenyan born, anti-Christ president.

Tell us what you really think bodie :1orglaugh

 

[Gordar]

He's the goddamn president of the greatest country on Earth. We don't fucking bow to anyone.

Wether the US is the greatest country in the world or not is not something I'm going to discuss here. But I do have to mention that Obama is a commoner, whereas the king of Saudi Arabia is of nobility.

That by itself isn't enough to bow anymore, but if Obama wants something else, like 63 billion dollars to spend on Iraq & if the king of Saudi Arabia were willing to share some of his personal money to help Obama's cause if they were pleased with him, then I'd bow as well if I were in his position.

After the Portuguese were kicked out of Japan, we (the dutch) were the sole remaining western trading partners of Japan. The shogun didn't like westerners that much, but he tolerated the dutch. Not because we were fair traders, not because we were so nice towards the rest of the population, not even because we shared our knowledge with the Japanese (which we did, some of it anyway, like medical knowledge). It was because of 2 reasons.

1. Because we didn't try to convert the Japanese
2. We were willing to do dances, plays, etc.

Did the shogun deserve it? No. The japanese army, which might have been a formidable force in it's day, was still fighting with swords and bows, while we were fighting with muskets and had ships full of cannons. We were stronger but we were still willing to make fools of ourselves. Why? Because of the money.

I don't know if Saudi is going to pay some of it or not, but I do know (because it was on the news tonight) that Obama wants another 63 billion for Iraq.

 

[NavyBlue]

I've already had enough of Obama and his fucked-up-jaw wife......four years of this nonsense?! Goddamn it, something needs to happen.

Tell us what you plan to do about it. Please.

 

[Hot Mega]

I guess it could have been worse. They could have been caught walking, looking at flowers while holding hands or something

 

[MILF Man]

Shows what a real dirt bag asshole B.O. is by bowing to this Saudi.

 

[Hot Mega]

I've already had enough of Obama and his fucked-up-jaw wife......four years of this nonsense?! Goddamn it, something needs to happen.

Obama won the U.S. Presidency which means he has the right to the seat unless he is removed from office after a Senate conviction for committing "high crimes and misdemeanors", resigns, loses a re-election or is term limited after 8 years of service.

Far too many, so called "real Americans" have no clue what it means to stand on the principles and ideals for which our country was founded. They seem to think the U.S. should only be about what they want in their little world.

In the U.S. we don't try and overthrow a president because we believe he extended a courtesy we disagree with. We vote when we disagree with a leader...and Americans have given ransom and blood in Iraq purportedly to give them that same right....Yeah, "how soon we forget".

 

[Spleen]

Using another cultures tradition during something as simple as a greeting should be common practise.

But no.

He's quite obviously a terrorist of some sort.

 

[Facial_King]

 

[titsrock]

It does look like a bow to me. But it means nothing because we don't have royalty in our country.

I believe there are rules to addressing the Pope, too. I believe the Pope must sit higher than any other person in the room, for example. If one such rule was to bow to the Pope, would everyone be outraged at that?

 

[Galactic]

Tell us what you plan to do about it. Please.

If I somehow mistakenly implied that I alone was going to do something about this mess.........I'll own that, but re-reading my post, I don't think that is what I did. I merely stated that "something" needs to happen. And that "something" can be any one of several things.

I don't like the track I see this country headed down right now. I don't like how huge and intrusive the government is becoming, and it would seem that there is no end in sight of it increasing its jaw size. I do believe that a lot of the things that have already been passed by Mr. O and company do seem to lean towards a more socialist spin of things. I do believe that Capitalism, in all of its glory, is fighting a losing battle against the left, who have gained scary amounts of control in D.C. I think the message being sent from the East is one of, "You, the little guy, have proven inept....now it is up to Big Bro to step in and handle things."

And then the President of the United States bows to a Saudi.

Yes, I have a problem with this. I have a fairly reasonable and decent grasp on how this country and the government operates. I understand, though it seems to have been suggested otherwise in other responses in this thread, how voting works, and what our rights and responsibilities include as citizens of the greatest country on Earth.

I also believe that Thomas Jefferson, a huge opponent to big government at all, is probably spinning in his fucking grave right now, as are other founding fathers.

It is the duty of EVERY American citizen to stand up and say enough is enough if the government begins to slide out of control, which I believe it has. How we make our voices heard is up to us......I will stop short of calling for a revolution, though I most definitely believe that if things continue on the current trend, and enough of our rights and liberties are wiped away, we will be left with no other choice.

That is, if you all wish to continue the life we have all grown accustomed to. If not, then by all means sit back and let Obama and Co., along with Explosi Pelosi and Barney Frank, dictate exactly how we should run our day to day affairs. Because according to them, we don't know how to do it right anymore.

They want to do it for us.

 

[Philbert]

If I somehow mistakenly implied that I alone was going to do something about this mess.........I'll own that, but re-reading my post, I don't think that is what I did. I merely stated that "something" needs to happen. And that "something" can be any one of several things.

I don't like the track I see this country headed down right now. I don't like how huge and intrusive the government is becoming, and it would seem that there is no end in sight of it increasing its jaw size. I do believe that a lot of the things that have already been passed by Mr. O and company do seem to lean towards a more socialist spin of things. I do believe that Capitalism, in all of its glory, is fighting a losing battle against the left, who have gained scary amounts of control in D.C. I think the message being sent from the East is one of, "You, the little guy, have proven inept....now it is up to Big Bro to step in and handle things."

And then the President of the United States bows to a Saudi.

Yes, I have a problem with this. I have a fairly reasonable and decent grasp on how this country and the government operates. I understand, though it seems to have been suggested otherwise in other responses in this thread, how voting works, and what our rights and responsibilities include as citizens of the greatest country on Earth.

I also believe that Thomas Jefferson, a huge opponent to big government at all, is probably spinning in his fucking grave right now, as are other founding fathers.

It is the duty of EVERY American citizen to stand up and say enough is enough if the government begins to slide out of control, which I believe it has. How we make our voices heard is up to us......I will stop short of calling for a revolution, though I most definitely believe that if things continue on the current trend, and enough of our rights and liberties are wiped away, we will be left with no other choice.

That is, if you all wish to continue the life we have all grown accustomed to. If not, then by all means sit back and let Obama and Co., along with Explosi Pelosi and Barney Frank, dictate exactly how we should run our day to day affairs. Because according to them, we don't know how to do it right anymore.

They want to do it for us.

Yep.

 

[DreamSparrow]

It's all as meaningless as Obama's cheesy thumbs up shots with Medvedev and Berlusconi, and the Obamas touching royalty.

I always find it rather funny the way some Americans continually invoke the Founding Fathers, given the views many of them held towards appeals to ancient authority:

There never did, there never will, and there never can, exist a Parliament, or any description of men, or any generation of men, in any country, possessed of the right or the power of binding and controlling posterity to the "end of time," or of commanding for ever how the world shall be governed, or who shall govern it; and therefore all such clauses, acts or declarations by which the makers of them attempt to do what they have neither the right nor the power to do, nor the power to execute, are in themselves null and void. Every age and generation must be as free to act for itself in all cases as the age and generations which preceded it. The vanity and presumption of governing beyond the grave is the most ridiculous and insolent of all tyrannies. Man has no property in man; neither has any generation a property in the generations which are to follow. The Parliament or the people of 1688, or of any other period, had no more right to dispose of the people of the present day, or to bind or to control them in any shape whatever, than the parliament or the people of the present day have to dispose of, bind or control those who are to live a hundred or a thousand years hence. Every generation is, and must be, competent to all the purposes which its occasions require. It is the living, and not the dead, that are to be accommodated. When man ceases to be, his power and his wants cease with him; and having no longer any participation in the concerns of this world, he has no longer any authority in directing who shall be its governors, or how its government shall be organised, or how administered.

I am not contending for nor against any form of government, nor for nor against any party, here or elsewhere. That which a whole nation chooses to do it has a right to do. Mr. Burke says, No. Where, then, does the right exist? I am contending for the rights of the living, and against their being willed away and controlled and contracted for by the manuscript assumed authority of the dead, and Mr. Burke is contending for the authority of the dead over the rights and freedom of the living. There was a time when kings disposed of their crowns by will upon their death-beds, and consigned the people, like beasts of the field, to whatever successor they appointed. This is now so exploded as scarcely to be remembered, and so monstrous as hardly to be believed. But the Parliamentary clauses upon which Mr. Burke builds his political church are of the same nature.

The laws of every country must be analogous to some common principle. In England no parent or master, nor all the authority of Parliament, omnipotent as it has called itself, can bind or control the personal freedom even of an individual beyond the age of twenty-one years. On what ground of right, then, could the Parliament of 1688, or any other Parliament, bind all posterity for ever?

Those who have quitted the world, and those who have not yet arrived at it, are as remote from each other as the utmost stretch of mortal imagination can conceive. What possible obligation, then, can exist between them — what rule or principle can be laid down that of two nonentities, the one out of existence and the other not in, and who never can meet in this world, the one should control the other to the end of time?

'The Rights of Man' by Thomas Paine

 

[NavyBlue]

If I somehow mistakenly implied that I alone was going to do something about this mess.........I'll own that, but re-reading my post, I don't think that is what I did. I merely stated that "something" needs to happen. And that "something" can be any one of several things.

I don't like the track I see this country headed down right now. I don't like how huge and intrusive the government is becoming, and it would seem that there is no end in sight of it increasing its jaw size. I do believe that a lot of the things that have already been passed by Mr. O and company do seem to lean towards a more socialist spin of things. I do believe that Capitalism, in all of its glory, is fighting a losing battle against the left, who have gained scary amounts of control in D.C. I think the message being sent from the East is one of, "You, the little guy, have proven inept....now it is up to Big Bro to step in and handle things."

And then the President of the United States bows to a Saudi.

Yes, I have a problem with this. I have a fairly reasonable and decent grasp on how this country and the government operates. I understand, though it seems to have been suggested otherwise in other responses in this thread, how voting works, and what our rights and responsibilities include as citizens of the greatest country on Earth.

I also believe that Thomas Jefferson, a huge opponent to big government at all, is probably spinning in his fucking grave right now, as are other founding fathers.

It is the duty of EVERY American citizen to stand up and say enough is enough if the government begins to slide out of control, which I believe it has. How we make our voices heard is up to us......I will stop short of calling for a revolution, though I most definitely believe that if things continue on the current trend, and enough of our rights and liberties are wiped away, we will be left with no other choice.

That is, if you all wish to continue the life we have all grown accustomed to. If not, then by all means sit back and let Obama and Co., along with Explosi Pelosi and Barney Frank, dictate exactly how we should run our day to day affairs. Because according to them, we don't know how to do it right anymore.

They want to do it for us.

You are entitled to your opinion as the First Amendment dictates, as do we all. I have no problem agreeing with you that some of the Obama's policies and legislations look suspicious but really, give that guy a break since he's been in the office for barely 3 months. Some of Obama's policies will not work out, but please tell me which President has everything going his way during his tenure. If you disagree with Obama's direction for the country that's perfectly fine, but I just don't see why you'd think the world is coming to the end, the United States is going down the dumpster, and everybody in the US will be living in a communist society. I see a lot of overreactions on this board and I just hope you guys will step away from the news for a few days and cool off a bit. Bowing to Saudi king or not this thread is just another reason to slam Obama, which we have about 1205439739 threads devoting to it since the election ended. Give it a rest people.

 

[Galactic]

You are entitled to your opinion as the First Amendment dictates, as do we all. I have no problem agreeing with you that some of the Obama's policies and legislations look suspicious but really, give that guy a break since he's been in the office for barely 3 months. Some of Obama's policies will not work out, but please tell me which President has everything going his way during his tenure. If you disagree with Obama's direction for the country that's perfectly fine, but I just don't see why you'd think the world is coming to the end, the United States is going down the dumpster, and everybody in the US will be living in a communist society. I see a lot of overreactions on this board and I just hope you guys will step away from the news for a few days and cool off a bit. Bowing to Saudi king or not this thread is just another reason to slam Obama, which we have about 1205439739 threads devoting to it since the election ended. Give it a rest people.

I don't think the world is coming to end.....just the way we have grown accustomed to living in it. What worries me about Obama's policies are they themselves, but also the speed at which he is spending money in ways that I personally do not think are wise.

With a Democrat controlled Congress, and a Democrat in the White House, it feels to me as thought they are acting like kids in a candy store, and are essentially running unchecked. What recourse do we have?

I was very disturbed by the image of him bowing to a King.......fuck that. We revolted against a monarchy to begin this country......I am not saying he should be a prick to the guy.......a firm handshake a cool look in the eye would be more appropriate.

:2 cents:

 

[NavyBlue]

I don't think the world is coming to end.....just the way we have grown accustomed to living in it. What worries me about Obama's policies are they themselves, but also the speed at which he is spending money in ways that I personally do not think are wise.

With a Democrat controlled Congress, and a Democrat in the White House, it feels to me as thought they are acting like kids in a candy store, and are essentially running unchecked. What recourse do we have?

I was very disturbed by the image of him bowing to a King.......fuck that. We revolted against a monarchy to begin this country......I am not saying he should be a prick to the guy.......a firm handshake a cool look in the eye would be more appropriate.

:2 cents:

Well Obama is really caught between a rock and hard place ever since he took office. If he acted too slowly to address the nation's problems, he gets slammed for not doing his job. However, if he tries to do too much at once he gets criticized for "running things unchecked" like you said. And with a democratic-majority congress in place was he supposed to do things his way and neglecting the one branch of government that has the power to push through his legislation, or would he try to please members of congress and give them what they want so they can help with his reforms? People keep criticizing his cozy relationship with Pelosi and Reid, while failing to realize the consequences if he didn't do so.

Really, all GOP wants for Obama to do is fail miserably in his first term so they can get a Republican in the White House along with a GOP majority congress, and if they say anything else then they are merely paying lip service. Even if Obama do everything a Republican President would have done, there will not be any GOP sympathatic to his cause. They'd merely snicker at Obama for agreeing with them, wondering why people would vote for a GOP in Dems clothing when they could have voted for McCain instead, and reveled in the obviously conflict that will arise between him and the Democrats. So, in a nutshell, Obama cannot win no matter what he does. So he might as well do what his heart tells him and all the naysayers can go to hell.

 

[Philbert]

Well Obama is really caught between a rock and hard place ever since he took office. If he acted too slowly to address the nation's problems, he gets slammed for not doing his job. However, if he tries to do too much at once he gets criticized for "running things unchecked" like you said. And with a democratic-majority congress in place was he supposed to do things his way and neglecting the one branch of government that has the power to push through his legislation, or would he try to please members of congress and give them what they want so they can help with his reforms? People keep criticizing his cozy relationship with Pelosi and Reid, while failing to realize the consequences if he didn't do so.

Really, all GOP wants for Obama to do is fail miserably in his first term so they can get a Republican in the White House along with a GOP majority congress, and if they say anything else then they are merely paying lip service. Even if Obama do everything a Republican President would have done, there will not be any GOP sympathatic to his cause. They'd merely snicker at Obama for agreeing with them, wondering why people would vote for a GOP in Dems clothing when they could have voted for McCain instead, and reveled in the obviously conflict that will arise between him and the Democrats. So, in a nutshell, Obama cannot win no matter what he does. So he might as well do what his heart tells him and all the naysayers can go to hell.

So lame it boggles the mind...can you say "paranoid"?
It sounds so whiny to claim a massive group of loyal Americans exists who just want to fuck the country their children live and grow in, whose families are part and parcel of the fabric of this nation for hundreds of years and millions of dead, so they can win an election. Not only paranoid, whiny, and lower than childish, but la-la land quality in logic.

Obama hasn't gone carefully and cautiously...the Democrats and Pelosi's bitch Barak have speed fucked every non-Democrat, and more than a few Democrats, by ramming through legislation so fast the Dems are spending a good deal of time backtracking and rescinding what they can to save the more rational Dems their seats...Dodd is a case in point.
So how do you know what Republicans, Independents, and the more mature Dems would do if something other than a blatant power makeover by the worst Democrat Congress left over from the last 2 years, Pelosi, and extreme radical Left new Prez Obama was in place? You don't, except in your mono-imagination.
It didn't happen, and lots of previous supporters are beginning to see the obvious direction things are going in...buyers remorse and nervous loss of confidence are beginning to show.
So...the only truth available is how people of all levels are seeing an irresponsible, weak appearing Prez and Congress are ignoring many millions of Americans to ram home an old Dem agenda without the checks and balances afforded by a non-homogeneous national government.
He (Barak) lied, sucked up, and did what every power hungry politician does to get a good job...and isn't keeping shitloads of campaign pledges at all while trying "new" directions that have failed in the past; there is no stopping his success as a President of the US of A...except his inexperience, his very Lefist philosophy, and the lack of control he has over the Pelosi government.

Other than that...

 

[NavyBlue]

It's harder and harder to not see you as yet another right winger who can only whine and complain, yet offer nothing in terms of solutions. Have you not seen the latest poll showing that majority of Americans siding with Obama while the GOP's approval rating slipped even further? You claim of

It didn't happen, and lots of previous supporters are beginning to see the obvious direction things are going in...buyers remorse and nervous loss of confidence are beginning to show.
So...the only truth available is how people of all levels are seeing an irresponsible, weak appearing Prez and Congress are ignoring many millions of Americans to ram home an old Dem agenda without the checks and balances afforded by a non-homogeneous national government.

hasn't happened yet, if so mind showing us the numbers supporting your claim? The reality is the American people is still giving Obama the benefit of the doubt, because they are just seeing how the economy is bottoming itself out and it's only a matter of time before the job losses stopped and reverse course. Guys like you are afraid what may happen if the economy rebounded under Obama's watch. You are using outrageous rhetorics to hide your extreme distaste for Obama and I don't think any rational person is fooled by it. Say what you want Phil once the economy is back on track again I better see you coming here and eating crow for the world to see.