Padian Study reveals HIV or Aids is not transmitted through Sex! We've Been Lied To!

[domshooter]

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Dr. Nancy Padian (born 1952) is a medical researcher who is the executive director of the Women's Global Health Imperative at the University of California, San Francisco, an RTI International group researching global women's health issues. She is senior director of prevention at the Pangaea Global AIDS Foundation.[1] Dr. Padian has been noted as among the "world's foremost experts on the heterosexual transmission of AIDS".
[2]
Dr. Padian gained an undergraduate degree in child development and education from Syracuse University.[1] Though initially wanting to become a psychologist, she was drawn to epidemiology by its potential to improve the lives of many people.[2] She subsequently received a master's degree and a doctorate from the School of Public Health at the University of California, Berkeley.[1] Beginning her graduate programs in the first stages of AIDS research, Dr. Padian was among the first to conduct large-scale studies proving heterosexual transmission of the HIV virus that causes AIDS[3][4] and establishing risk factors that can be avoided to minimize harm.
[2][5]
In one famous study published in Am J Epidemiol in 1997 she stated that, "We followed 175 HIV-discordant couples over time, for a total of approximately 282 couple-years of follow-up...The longest duration of follow-up was 12 visits (6 years). We observed no seroconversions after entry into the study...only 75% reported consistent condom use in the 6 months prior to their final follow-up visit. Forty-seven couples who remained in follow-up for 3 months to 6 years used condoms intermittently, and no seroconversions occurred among exposed partners."
[6]
Dr. Padian has refuted attempts by AIDS denialists to claim that HIV is not sexually transmitted by misusing her epidemiological work.

you mean her? with that study? where she doesnt agree with denial followers and doesnt like the fact that they use her information incorrectly? fuck you WTC. ill say it again. suck my big brown italian cock. i hate you.

 

[DOA82]

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Ah always the same handful of trolls pouncing on a controversial thread to try suppress information and squash real debate about an important subject. How predictable.

Before you start pointing fingers realise that you are as much a troll as anyone who posts in your thread.

You post these controversial threads, fuel your own conspiracy fire then bitch when no one agrees with you.

Whats it like to be you in the real world?

 

[TheOrangeCat]

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Nice answer. That really seals it.

The evidence is clear.

175 couples

NO HIV TRANSMISSION, and YES THEY WERE HAVING SEX REGULARLY and near the end of the study the majority were having UNPROTECTED HETEROSEXUAL SEXUAL INTERCOURSE!!

I have just posted the direct quotes from the report that totally show every thing you just written is this quote is an utter lie.

175 couple recruited. 46 made it to a point that the data could actually be used.

The report states that at the end they were by and large having PROTECTED sex or abstaining altogether.

You just committed Board suicide with this, so thanks.:hatsoff:

 

[WTC7WasPulled]

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Dr. Nancy Padian (born 1952) is a medical researcher who is the executive director of the Women's Global Health Imperative at the University of California, San Francisco, an RTI International group researching global women's health issues. She is senior director of prevention at the Pangaea Global AIDS Foundation.[1] Dr. Padian has been noted as among the "world's foremost experts on the heterosexual transmission of AIDS".
[2]
Dr. Padian gained an undergraduate degree in child development and education from Syracuse University.[1] Though initially wanting to become a psychologist, she was drawn to epidemiology by its potential to improve the lives of many people.[2] She subsequently received a master's degree and a doctorate from the School of Public Health at the University of California, Berkeley.[1] Beginning her graduate programs in the first stages of AIDS research, Dr. Padian was among the first to conduct large-scale studies proving heterosexual transmission of the HIV virus that causes AIDS[3][4] and establishing risk factors that can be avoided to minimize harm.
[2][5]
In one famous study published in Am J Epidemiol in 1997 she stated that, "We followed 175 HIV-discordant couples over time, for a total of approximately 282 couple-years of follow-up...The longest duration of follow-up was 12 visits (6 years). We observed no seroconversions after entry into the study...only 75% reported consistent condom use in the 6 months prior to their final follow-up visit. Forty-seven couples who remained in follow-up for 3 months to 6 years used condoms intermittently, and no seroconversions occurred among exposed partners."
[6]
Dr. Padian has refuted attempts by AIDS denialists to claim that HIV is not sexually transmitted by misusing her epidemiological work.

you mean her? with that study? where she doesnt agree with denial followers and doesnt like the fact that they use her information incorrectly? fuck you WTC. ill say it again. suck my big brown italian cock. i hate you.

Good debate. Now were are talking Italian weiner boy.

She can object to her study being used by "denialists" all she wants. Proof is in the study. Its good that an establishment scientist who makes her living from the farse of HIV/Aids did this study, so no one can say its not fair.

I say again.

175 couples, long study, unprotected sex, NO HIV TRANSMISSION!

What should one think of that?

 

[squallumz]

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Good debate. Now were are talking Italian weiner boy.

:wtf:

 

[domshooter]

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i have this .gif of Jack Nicholson flipping the bird, with a stone cold look on his face. actually really awesome. but i cant embed anything worth a shit. so youll just have to imagine it and laugh to yourself

 

[BlueBalls]

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175 couples, long study, unprotected sex, NO HIV TRANSMISSION!

What should one think of that?

:1orglaugh

Did you even read the study you've cited?

"Overall, 68 (19%) of the 360 female partners of HIV-infected men (95% confidence interval (CI) 15.0-23.3%) and two (2.4%) of the 82 male partners of HIV-infected women (95% CI 0.3-8.5%) were infected."

That's just from the abstract, it's not even as if you had to read the entire thing.

 

[TheOrangeCat]

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I say again.

175 couples, long study, unprotected sex, NO HIV TRANSMISSION!

What should one think of that?

I say again: liar

To directly quote the report:

''At last follow-up, couples
were much more likely to be abstinent or to use
condoms consistently, and were much less likely to
practice anal intercourse''

What should one think of that? That you are incapable of reading, assimilating and analyzing both basic and complex scientific data, and furthermore, that you are clearly suffering from some sort of mental health issue and, with no pejorative intent at all, I strongly urge you to seek psychiatric help.

 

[Hot Mega]

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Humoring your proposition for a second, how then is the condition which produces symptoms widely accepted as HIV/AIDS spread?

 

[WTC7WasPulled]

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Forty-seven couples who remained in follow-up for 3
months to 6 years used condoms intermittently, and no
seroconversions occurred among exposed partners.

Means on and off, means unprotected sex.

 

[alexpnz]

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I.Just.Can't.....ugh!

 

[PirateKing]

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Please...stop.

i have this .gif of Jack Nicholson flipping the bird, with a stone cold look on his face. actually really awesome. but i cant embed anything worth a shit. so youll just have to imagine it and laugh to yourself

Don't worry dom, I got you covered.

 

[Shifty]

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You lose, tin-hatted one.

One of the more egregious myths perpetrated by AIDS denialists is that HIV is not heterosexually transmitted. Part of the "evidence" that underlies this myth is a 1997 paper by Dr. Nancy Padian and her colleagues at the University of California, San Francisco.

The denialists either misinterpret or misunderstand this paper. Some internet sites/Blogs even go so far as to suggest that the "HIV/AIDS establishment" (sic) finds Dr. Padian's work inconvenient and has suppressed it, to the detriment of her professional career.

HIV is unquestionably transmitted through heterosexual intercourse. Indeed, heterosexual intercourse is now responsible for 70-80% of all HIV transmissions worldwide.

In short, the evidence for the sexual transmission of HIV is well documented, conclusive, and based on the standard, uncontroversial methods and practices of medical science. Individuals who cite the 1997 Padian et al. publication (1) or data from other studies by our research group in an attempt to substantiate the myth that HIV is not transmitted sexually are ill informed, at best. Their misuse of these results is misleading, irresponsible, and potentially injurious to the public.

Source:

http://www.aidstruth.org/denialism/misuse/padian

WTCWasPulled ... misleading ... irresponsible ...

 

[TheOrangeCat]

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Forty-seven couples who remained in follow-up for 3
months to 6 years used condoms intermittently, and no
seroconversions occurred among exposed partners.

Means on and off, means unprotected sex.

In other words, on and off protected sex too.

Just look at how you are already tracking off your original posit and it's clear to see your flagrant disregard for the honest conveyance of information.

Not a ten year study
Not 175 couples studied
The consistent and increasing use amongst those 46 couples of condoms or abstinence

I'm not even going to get into the sections on intravenous drug use as a risk factor among the 46 couples, or the two cases of female-male transmission they documented.

 

[Shifty]

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In a related study,

Asshats go in the ban bucket.

 

[Elwood70]

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Don't worry dom, I got you covered.

That alone made this bullshit worth plowing through.

 

[TheOrangeCat]

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he was right about one thing in his Thread though - well the title, anyway.

"We've been lied to"

Yea buddy, we know.

By you.

 

[WTC7WasPulled]

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You lose, tin-hatted one.









Source:

http://www.aidstruth.org/denialism/misuse/padian

WTCWasPulled ... misleading ... irresponsible ...

Great source, :clap: kind of like using Screw Loose Change as a 9/11 source.

 

[DOA82]

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Great source, :clap: kind of like using Screw Loose Change as a 9/11 source.

Jokes aside. This is a serious question now.

Why do you create these threads when you refuse to acknowledge other posters serious input.

These has been evidence in this thread that clearly contradicts yours, but you dismiss it. Is it so impossible that you could be wrong?

 

[TheOrangeCat]

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Just in case there's any doubt left as to your perversion of this otherwise excellent research:

From the research report you posted: ''75% reported consistent condom use in the 6 months prior to their final follow-up visit''

And from her own writings regarding this report and her work in totality:

"HIV is unquestionably transmitted through heterosexual intercourse. Indeed, heterosexual intercourse is now responsible for 70-80% of all HIV transmissions worldwide'"

"it is a complete fallacy to allege or insinuate that this work has been "suppressed" or "ignored" by the AIDS community or
unsupported by UCSF or any other institution with which I have worked. To the contrary, these findings have been seen as central and seminal
to the problem of heterosexual transmission rates and the development of interventions to lower the rate of transmission and infection worldwide,
many of which are being conducted by my research group. The success of my working group has been fueled, not hindered, by our research on the
heterosexual transmission of HIV, attested to by our long record of peer-reviewed publications."

Both quotes are from her article ''Heterosexual Transmission of HIV"

So, either she's lying or you are.

Maybe I'll start a poll to see who thinks which scenario is more likely.