Please Help!

[Nikki_SeXX]

Hi everyone, I know Ive been away for a bit, but I'm back now, and Ive come to ask for the help, of anyone who is willing, and believes in what I believe. Ive never come on here and asked for anything, from anyone, never asked anyone to visit my site, or buy my stuff, or vote for me, or anything along those lines, but today, I need your help.

I dont know about you guys, but Ive been a fan of porn for as far back as I can remember. When I was a little girl, I would sneak and watch the spice channel on pirated cable, and ever since then, Ive had a love affair for this industry that is so deep in my heart, that sometimes it brings me literally to tears. I dont know If anyone has been following the saga, but cal-osha (the Occupational Safety Administration for this state) Is about to make some sweeping changes to the adult industry, and porn as you know it, is about to change. They are trying to enforce a mandatory condom policy on us, that there is nothing we can do about. Running to another state, or trying to find loop-holes is not going to work. There is no way around this, and I think it will probably kill our industry as a whole, as I believe most people would turn their backs on america adult films, and probably look to content produced over seas.

If you would like to see your porn remain condom free, please, please, PLEASE write to cal-osha, and let them know that you are a paying porn consumer, and would hate to see this happen. If you, and your friends (assuming they like porn) and your friends, friends (assuming they like porn too, and come on! Who doesnt!? ;-) ) write in to them, and let your voice be heard, maybe, just maybe, they'll reconsider, and this business that I love, and hold so near and dear to my heart, can continue on.

Thank You for reading, and if youd like to write them, here is the address.
oshsb@dir.ca.gov

 

[DOA82]

While the use of condoms in the movies is limited at the moment, I advocate it in favour of the health of the girls and guys in the industry.

The general public have it drilled into us continuously to have safe sex, for sake of STI's and to stop unwanted pregnancy. Why should the porn industry be magically free of the same threats?

 

[Hot Mega]

I am with you because I believe it is the right of the producers of porn to do as they see fit with something like this. But I'm the type that doesn't think the state ought to be fining people who choose not to wear seatbelts either. Is it usually a smart thing to do? Yes but it shouldn't be you are fined for if you don't.

I understand it's their job to ensure workplaces are reasonably safe from hazard but producing porn is not something that has to be done in California.

Effectively what Cal-OSHA is saying is..if you want to make porn in California...you have to use condoms. That doesn't make sense in a trade where they can simply go elsewhere to do it. The only thing California wins is ultimately losing the revenue from the industry.

The industry will not lose money...well long term they won't. The demand is so high for rubberless porn that it will adapt without California. It may be painful in the short term but California will not have solved what it perceives to be a problem IMO.

Besides...what are they going to do for cases where disease can be spread that doesn't involve dick-in-pussy contact?

 

[biomech]

This is what Cal-Osha's concern is? Maybe they should make sure that other workplaces are safe.
From what I grasp of the porn industry, stars are vigourisly tested. If one decides to film scenes without condoms that is their choice.
No wonder California is nearly bankrupt, wasting money like this. :2 cents:

 

[GregCentauro]

I believe most people would turn their backs on america adult films, and probably look to content produced over seas.

If they're smart, they already did this 20 years ago. US porn's main concern isn't a possible condom policy - French porn is doing quite well shooting only "safe". The quality of US content ranges between average and garbage. Bring in more beautiful performers. Nobody will care then if they are being shagged with a condom. This is what Pierre Woodman does nowadays and it seems to work for him. :dunno:

 

[Nikki_SeXX]

While the use of condoms in the movies is limited at the moment, I advocate it in favour of the health of the girls and guys in the industry.

I, being a performer, believe my health is safe under the current system. Ive filmed over 100 scenes over the course of 2 years, and have never had a problem, nor tested positive for ANYTHING. Is there a chance something could happen? Yes, of course. But I believe that risks lies in any job. If you work construction, ar you at risk of something falling, or smashing your hand, or falling off of a building, rooftop, or otherwise? I think the adult industry, churning out 100's of thousand of scenes on a yearly basis, and never having an HIV transmission on set in over 6 years, are odds I'm willing to take.

The general public have it drilled into us continuously to have safe sex, for sake of STI's and to stop unwanted pregnancy. Why should the porn industry be magically free of the same threats?

Because porn is fantasy, and what you speak of is reality. We take the precautions through testing to ensure our safety. How many people off the street do you know who get a full panel of blood work done on a monthly basis? How many people even go once? Or twice a year? Not very many. Thats why we arent held to the same standard, and I think people realize the difference. Sure a transformer can break down buildings all over downtown, but in reality, no one is going to try that. People are smart enough to make the differentiation, the majority anyways, and if they're not, then they have bigger issues at hand.

 

[mrtrebus]

I don't care either way. . .

 

[DOA82]

Its a very naive attitude to take. To dislike them because they will affect your bank balance first and your safety second?

You admit there are dangers there, if you or a friend fell foul of some disease or STI, would you just accept it as a hazard of the trade?

People are influenced by porn. They believe what they see is real and in some cases acceptable in the real world. In the real world if someone catches a disease, sleeps around and passes it on and lets their excuse be "I saw it on a porn movie", would you deny you were in part responsible? Chalk it up to individual responsibility?

I cant remember the last time I saw any disclaimer during an adult movie other than to stress the performers are legal age, none to the effect that the sex invloved and risks taken are at the actors own discretion.

People in the real world are stupid, why else do they need constant reminders to do everything. Pornstars crying about having to use protection seems awfully hypocritical in my book.

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Actually having thought about it a little more, I really dont care. Im not a prude, but end of the day its not my problem. If a pornstar gets a disease through their own ignorance, move onto the next, there are always more. I dont get emotionally attached to models so hearing of deaths, diseases, pregnancies in the industry isnt my problem. I turn on the tv every day and have to listen to soldiers dying, murders being commited and all manner of unholy shit that make you realise the world is a horrible place. This is not a genuine problem, its an working environment inconvenience.

There are bigger fish to fry in this world without hearing some silicon blonde got a rash on her vagina cause she didnt like the latex love sock.

 

[LukeEl]

I am all for adult performers whether he/she does movies, stirps, escorts, etc. to be unionized I know it's irrelavent to this topic but I am all for people in the adult entertainment industry and I again say etc...becaue there are many facets to it, to all be safe, healthy, well, and enjoy great sex with each other...mind you I have been drinking since noontime today...hey it's almost 4th of July so pay no attention to my insane rambling.

 

[DOA82]

(Minor addition - The silicon blonde remark is not an attack at the OP, just an unfortuante example I used)

 

[Nikki_SeXX]

Its a very naive attitude to take. To dislike them because they will affect your bank balance first and your safety second?

You admit there are dangers there, if you or a friend fell foul of some disease or STI, would you just accept it as a hazard of the trade?

People are influenced by porn. They believe what they see is real and in some cases acceptable in the real world. In the real world if someone catches a disease, sleeps around and passes it on and lets their excuse be "I saw it on a porn movie", would you deny you were in part responsible? Chalk it up to individual responsibility?

I cant remember the last time I saw any disclaimer during an adult movie other than to stress the performers are legal age, none to the effect that the sex invloved and risks taken are at the actors own discretion.

People in the real world are stupid, why else do they need constant reminders to do everything. Pornstars crying about having to use protection seems awfully hypocritical in my book.

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Actually having thought about it a little more, I really dont care. Im not a prude, but end of the day its not my problem. If a pornstar gets a disease through their own ignorance, move onto the next, there are always more. I dont get emotionally attached to models so hearing of deaths, diseases, pregnancies in the industry isnt my problem. I turn on the tv every day and have to listen to soldiers dying, murders being commited and all manner of unholy shit that make you realise the world is a horrible place. This is not a genuine problem, its an working environment inconvenience.

There are bigger fish to fry in this world without hearing some silicon blonde got a rash on her vagina cause she didnt like the latex love sock.

I think you may be missing the bottom line, and Im responsible for that, definately, so I'll state it now. What theyre trying to do, is not just add condoms to porn, theyre trying to do away with pornography. The guidlines that they are stating are clearly for that purpose. And they are: Condoms, dental dams, Goggles, no cumshots anywhere near your mouth, eyes, ass hole, vagina, or any other open orafice. Do you see what I'm getting at. So if they have their way, what do you think will happen to porn. How many amongst you would like to watch people wearing google, condoms, dental dams, etc? Do you think consumption would decline? If it does do you think porn will continue to exist? More over, even if you want condoms, even if you want goggles and full body plastic wrap do you really think the state should be making that decision for you? Im sure no one here still visits their video store and buys dvds anymore, but lets say hypothetically you did. If you like condoms, by all MEANS PLEASE grab a wicked movie from that shelf, if you like hairy porn, PLEASE grab that natural bush movie. But if you walked into that same store, and every single video in there was all the same, what would you think? Imagine a grocery store with nothing but Moutain Dew to drink, and every single store accross the nation, only had Moutain Dew to drink. What would you think? If you love condoms, great, but if you dont, should the state force it down your throat? Or should that be your choice to pick up a movie with condoms in it? All I'm saying is, if you dont want the state dictating to you what you are, and arent able to buy, then shoot them an email, and let them know youd like to choose for yourself.

 

[DOA82]

Right, I understand now, you are fighting what you believe is the end of pornography.

The end of pornography though? Im gonna seem just impossible to please, but you know, I probably wouldnt miss it. Pornography has reached the point where it may be to powerful, if that makes sense. Nothing is taboo anymore, there are no boundaries.

It certainly doesnt merit being made a thing of the past, but it certainly needs some level of control. Okay they may be over reacting to it by making it seem like a sexual ed vid gone nuts.

Its appropriate Batman begins was on tv tonight -

"When a forest grows to wild, a purging fire is inevitable" - maybe porn needs it to have its reigns tightened.

 

[SpexyAshleigh]

I'd be be against the condom thing, if pornstars vowed and followed through on not sleeping with anyone else again if they contracted a permanent disease. You may not be worried about getting HIV or the Herps, but once you hang up your gstring and retire from porn, think of the men and women you'll be sleeping with in your personal life. Why would you want to risk that? You brought up the construction workers...well construction workers go to work and have to wear a hardhat. Police officers have to wear bullet proof vests. Doctors have to wear rubber gloves and masks, and firefighters have to wear oxygen and protective gear. Pornstars aren't and shouldn't be exempt from the same safety regulations that anyone else is.

 

[Hot Mega]

I'd be be against the condom thing, if pornstars vowed and followed through on not sleeping with anyone else again if they contracted a permanent disease. You may not be worried about getting HIV or the Herps, but once you hang up your gstring and retire from porn, think of the men and women you'll be sleeping with in your personal life. Why would you want to risk that? You brought up the construction workers...well construction workers go to work and have to wear a hardhat. Police officers have to wear bullet proof vests. Doctors have to wear rubber gloves and masks, and firefighters have to wear oxygen and protective gear. Pornstars aren't and shouldn't be exempt from the same safety regulations that anyone else is.

That's just it...they're not exempted. They already have occupational safety standards they must conform to which also allows them to still deliver on the artistic quality of their product....AIM testing.

To me it seems reasonable standards are okay...and I would classify that as what reasonable people would do..not the extreme.

For example, shall a reasonable person use a condom when they fuck in their personal life? Yes and every time they have no idea if the person they are fucking is free from disease. However, shall a person use a condom in their personal life when they are reasonably sure the individual they are fucking is free from disease? Well, it won't hurt but that maybe a little extreme.

Nothing is foolproof...cops who are in jeopardy of being shot at should wear bulletproof vests ...but cops still die from gunshot wounds. Construction workers are mandated to wear hard hats. But what is the requirement to wear a hard hat going to do when the hazard is a construction beam or shipping container falling on you?

In both of those cases reasonable measures are mandated for basic hazard safety. Is it possible to mandate protection or policies that possibly reduce the hazards more? Likely so but then you get to the point where it is impractical to perform the job. Also, some jobs are just impossible to perform without risk.

IMO, testing is a reasonable mandate. When a person is tested per guidelines, in the overwhelming majority of cases there is a reasonable certainty they pose no disease threat. When you consider the various acts in which disease can spread in porn where a condom has no role in, testing mandates are more than reasonable and sufficient.

Should performers use plastic wrap to perform oral sex in a scene? Why not ban open mouth kissing in mainstream movies as well?

 

[Hot Mega]

I think you may be missing the bottom line, and Im responsible for that, definately, so I'll state it now. What theyre trying to do, is not just add condoms to porn, theyre trying to do away with pornography. The guidlines that they are stating are clearly for that purpose. And they are: Condoms, dental dams, Goggles, no cumshots anywhere near your mouth, eyes, ass hole, vagina, or any other open orafice. Do you see what I'm getting at. So if they have their way, what do you think will happen to porn. How many amongst you would like to watch people wearing google, condoms, dental dams, etc? Do you think consumption would decline? If it does do you think porn will continue to exist? More over, even if you want condoms, even if you want goggles and full body plastic wrap do you really think the state should be making that decision for you? Im sure no one here still visits their video store and buys dvds anymore, but lets say hypothetically you did. If you like condoms, by all MEANS PLEASE grab a wicked movie from that shelf, if you like hairy porn, PLEASE grab that natural bush movie. But if you walked into that same store, and every single video in there was all the same, what would you think? Imagine a grocery store with nothing but Moutain Dew to drink, and every single store accross the nation, only had Moutain Dew to drink. What would you think? If you love condoms, great, but if you dont, should the state force it down your throat? Or should that be your choice to pick up a movie with condoms in it? All I'm saying is, if you dont want the state dictating to you what you are, and arent able to buy, then shoot them an email, and let them know youd like to choose for yourself.

I agree with you but as far as them doing away with porn...I think they will just hurt those who operate in California temporarily...but just drive the business elsewhere.

When there is money to be made and a demand for a product, producers don't stop doing it when there is a roadblock..they just find another path.

 

[jod0565]

I don't like goggle porn.

FCO!

 

[wigster]

Where there's a will there's a way, i'm sure people will find a way around it. For example. Legally your only aloud to shoot porn in California and New Hampshire ( i think i'm right, not 100% sure though ), if that's the case then why are porn scenes shot in Las Vegas and Miami???

Secondly it will only affect the American market not the whole of porn, there is no way Europe would put these kind of regulations in place, so it wouldn't end porn.

 

[izabelplayer]

nikki has an accidental creampie happen to you or is that fake in the movies?