Queshun about rasizzem (racism)

[meesterperfect]

I guess its time for That Great African American Actor Morgan Freeman to put a rest to this topic.......again.

 

[Jenkum]

the idea of Racism was invented by the mass murderer Leon Trotsky. The Bolsheviks revolution was led by Jews, Trotsky was a Jew and he wanted to silence the Russian people from criticising Jews who had just taken over Russia. If a Russian would have raised the question "why are all the leaders of this revolution Jewish"? he would be executed, the penalty for Racism was death.

It is normal for a nation and for people to recognize themselves as a distinct group and to look at outsiders as different. It is human nature. In the animal kingdom a group of spider monkeys will control a territory and they will look upon other speices of monkeys with suspicion when they invade their turf.

Just as an indian tribe of Cherokees would feel about an invading group of Apaches. This is just normal group nature and tribal behavior that was made taboo for political reasons and for very sinister reasons by a mass murderer from an evil movement of mass murdering psychopaths

 

[Death-Proof-69]

:stir::stir::stir::stir::stir::stir:

 

[Jenkum]

The people behind "racism" have an agenda, they are keeping the truth in the dark so that they can control us and make us into what they want us to be, good slaves.

Racism is blown out of proportion, Blacks find Whites interesting and vice versa, A person from India finds a person from Japan to be interesting and I believe that deep down people are not "racist" at all.

We have a built in survival instinct to protect our own group and the territory of our group. When this territory is invaded it is in our instincts to defend what is in the best interest of our people, but if the different people are not threatening the existence of our group then I dont believe that there is any inherent hatred of another type of people based solely on them being different. Tensions exist when there is conflict between two tribes and that is normal in the animal kingdom as well as with Humans.

The people who control our societies see themselves as a defined group, they are elite and everyone who is not in their club is different. They have an agenda to push so that the masses will not question why this small elite group is in control. So they want the masses to forego their natural instincts so they can remain firmly in control. They also want to mix people up and create racial tensions so that the masses are weakend and in a position where they do not have the power to question the rule of this small elite group in control, the king want to stay the king, and keep everyone else down, and "racism" is one of the tools they use to do this.

 

[Death-Proof-69]

The people behind "racism" have an agenda, they are keeping the truth in the dark so that they can control us and make us into what they want us to be, good slaves.

Racism is blown out of proportion, Blacks find Whites interesting and vice versa, A person from India finds a person from Japan to be interesting and I believe that deep down people are not "racist" at all.

We have a built in survival instinct to protect our own group and the territory of our group. When this territory is invaded it is in our instincts to defend what is in the best interest of our people, but if the different people are not threatening the existence of our group then I dont believe that there is any inherent hatred of another type of people based solely on them being different. Tensions exist when there is conflict between two tribes and that is normal in the animal kingdom as well as with Humans.

The people who control our societies see themselves as a defined group, they are elite and everyone who is not in their club is different. They have an agenda to push so that the masses will not question why this small elite group is in control. So they want the masses to forego their natural instincts so they can remain firmly in control. They also want to mix people up and create racial tensions so that the masses are weakend and in a position where they do not have the power to question the rule of this small elite group in control, the king want to stay the king, and keep everyone else down, and "racism" is one of the tools they use to do this.

do you know WTC7 by any chance? just curious...

 

[Jenkum]

do you know WTC7 by any chance? just curious...

He was my brother, may he RIP, killed by a government hit squad, made it look like he ran his car right into a tree.

 

[Thomas O'Malley]

What's all the fuzz about that one word I wish they never invented "racism"? I mean, nowadays, whatever you (at least that's how it is in Europe) is racism. Just try to adept to each other and live your life, after all it's not that long (and definitely too short to worry about stupid terms as racism).
So far my point of view.

 

[Death-Proof-69]

He was my brother, may he RIP, killed by a government hit squad, made it look like he ran his car right into a tree.

:eek: i'm sorry to hear that! maybe he was right all along...:tinhat:

 

[digdiggler]

Black power= let's assert our independence
white power= let's maintain control over the other party.

Although both are racist because they alienate the other.

there's your answer

 

[Hot Mega]

I guess its time for That Great African American Actor Morgan Freeman to put a rest to this topic.......again.

I suppose it's worth pointing out that MF in this interview is talking in idealist terms.

Meaning that is ideally what should happen/be the case, etc....much like (for example) we know what would cause Sunni and Shia, Jews and Muslims, etc. to stop trying to kill each other. Getting passed the circumstances which creates the problems in the first place though is a different matter.

Point? Humans have long since passed the point of recognizing solutions to our problems...we're just too dumb to do them. This recent debt limit 'crisis' couldn't be a better example. Since that's the case we are left to deal with the reality.

The reality is people will look at others based on race, religion, nationality, financial status, etc.

MF believing the average person will look at another average person as something versus someone first is like believing a woman will ignore that a man is rich in considering whether to date him. Or ....believing one person reading someone else's post in a political thread on FOs will not try fitting the person in a lefty/righty cookie cutout.

Looking at someone as something first isn't the problem. Believing that it makes a general difference is.

m/p you would do well to start with yourself though in taking MF's advice.:o

 

[Will E Worm]

Then, why is it still called "Black Power" and not "African-American Power"?

Yeah! :1orglaugh


Jenkum :clap:

 

[Facetious]

This came to my mind today...

Is the term "White Power" racist?

And if so why is "Black Power" not?

:dunno:

Many blacks continue to feel oppressed by society, therefore, ''Black Power'' gives them a sense of empowerment. .... why they belittle their fellow business successful black brothers with monikers such as ''Uncle Toms'', I'll never know. :dunno:

Another thought...


√ Why is the term ''Irishman'' OK whilst Chinaman is considered offensive and derogatory?


√ Why are there latino, black and asian police officers associations, but no white police officers associations?


√ Finally, this is one of my all time favorite cut and pasties...

"We call things racism just to get attention. We reduce complicated problems to racism, not because it is racism, but because it works."

--- Alfredo Gutierrez, political consultant, as quoted by Richard de Uriarte, The Phoenix Gazette, March 14, 1992 (quoted in The ProEnglish Advocate, 1st quarter, 2002).


:1orglaugh

 

[meesterperfect]

I suppose it's worth pointing out that MF in this interview is talking in idealist terms.

Meaning that is ideally what should happen/be the case, etc....much like (for example) we know what would cause Sunni and Shia, Jews and Muslims, etc. to stop trying to kill each other. Getting passed the circumstances which creates the problems in the first place though is a different matter.

Point? Humans have long since passed the point of recognizing solutions to our problems...we're just too dumb to do them. This recent debt limit 'crisis' couldn't be a better example. Since that's the case we are left to deal with the reality.

The reality is people will look at others based on race, religion, nationality, financial status, etc.

MF believing the average person will look at another average person as something versus someone first is like believing a woman will ignore that a man is rich in considering whether to date him. Or ....believing one person reading someone else's post in a political thread on FOs will not try fitting the person in a lefty/righty cookie cutout.

Looking at someone as something first isn't the problem. Believing that it makes a general difference is.

m/p you would do well to start with yourself though in taking MF's advice.:o

:eek:
Ive been saying what Freemans been saying since i was a teenager.

It doesnt mean race cant be talked about, especially in reference to groups.
However in the USa that is prohibited for all except whites, christians , southerners, ect.
Thats a true double standard if ever there was one.

about what you were saying earlier about my take on words, more specifically names is that I do concede there is a difference between for example I hate spearchuckers as opposed to I hate the word spearchuckers.
But either way theyre just words.
And whether its honky, pinky, **** , porch monkey , jigaboo, spade, junglebunny, dothead, chink camel fucker, redneck ect they are all equally offensive if theyre intentions are to offend.
But in todays society all of them with the exceptions of the ones used about whites are off limits in any context depending on who's saying them and that just aint right.

And like Ive said before many politicians, movie makers, the news media, the schools have been feeding the whole racist thing now for so long that its talked about more today than ever before.
and that aint right either.
counterproductive.

 

[Hot Mega]

:eek:
Ive been saying what Freemans been saying since i was a teenager.

It doesnt mean race cant be talked about, especially in reference to groups.
However in the USa that is prohibited for all except whites, christians , southerners, ect.
Thats a true double standard if ever there was one.

about what you were saying earlier about my take on words, more specifically names is that I do concede there is a difference between for example I hate spearchuckers as opposed to I hate the word spearchuckers.
But either way theyre just words.
And whether its honky, pinky, **** , porch monkey , jigaboo, spade, junglebunny, dothead, chink camel fucker, redneck ect they are all equally offensive if theyre intentions are to offend.
But in todays society all of them with the exceptions of the ones used about whites are off limits in any context depending on who's saying them and that just aint right.

And like Ive said before many politicians, movie makers, the news media, the schools have been feeding the whole racist thing now for so long that its talked about more today than ever before.
and that aint right either.
counterproductive.

I won't pick apart your post but I will say you still seem to have some confusion over the relationship of context in this case IMO but no biggie. I think the point was made and accepted.

I think you are probably relating to what MF said on the simplest of terms ...as moreover I believe you want (based on numerous posts by you around the subject) to apply the perspective when it suits a circumstance of your choosing (having the desire for your cake but an equal desire for eating it too).

You can't (well you can but you just won't have any credibility) peddle race baiting out of one side of your proverbial mouth then claim color-blindness out of the other...

Classic example, you claim to agree with MF in not talking about race but then right out of the other side of your mouth you decry not being able to talk (as you believe) candidly about race...Do you see that m/p?

 

[Trident1]

(Watch this...lol)

So, under what circumstances would this necessity to further identify one's self present itself?:o

If you live in an area where there is a large population of people from East Europe.......the Great Lakes, upper Midwest, the Northeast etc. Or if you have a last name that is difficult to pronounce or spell.

Any more tangents Meg?:o

 

[Hot Mega]

If you live in an area where there is a large population of people from East Europe.......the Great Lakes, upper Midwest, the Northeast etc. Or if you have a last name that is difficult to pronounce or spell.

Indeed. Ergo, there are reasons why an American of any stripe may have occasion, desire or even necessity to further identify themselves on a racial, ethnic, cultural, etc. basis.

The lesson circling back to the original point? In this case, at least of African-Americans identify as American too where circumstances present themselves as opposed to those who may simply say they are Italian, Mexican, Russian, etc....

Thanks 'dents 1.:hatsoff:

 

[Kingfisher]

Black power= let's assert our independence
white power= let's maintain control over the other party.

Although both are racist because they alienate the other.

You could also look at that from the view point of BP being, let's rise up and regain our power we've presumably lost. WP being, we'll try to regain the power we lost due to expansion.

Personally I feel when one race says something repeatedly and it's all right for them to say, but not all right for anybody else to say is just denigrating themselves. And you have popular culture and media to blame more than anything.

It sensationalizes, because it angers, because you allow it to anger you, therefore it continues to be viewed or done. If we all stopped watching the idiot skateboarder cracking his skull open, people would eventually stop posting them, but that doesn't mean it stops happening. The people, themselves, have to stop doing it.

 

[Trident1]

Indeed. Ergo, there are reasons why an American of any stripe may have occasion, desire or even necessity to further identify themselves on a racial, ethnic, cultural, etc. basis.

The lesson circling back to the original point? In this case, at least of African-Americans identify as American too where circumstances present themselves as opposed to those who may simply say they are Italian, Mexican, Russian, etc....

Thanks 'dents 1.:hatsoff:

The media hardly ever says "black"..............they say African-American for PC reasons. The media never calls Whites "European Americans".

African-American is unecessary. It's all PC shit.

 

[Hot Mega]

The media hardly ever says "black"..............they say African-American for PC reasons. The media never calls Whites "European Americans".

African-American is unecessary. It's all PC shit.

Is that what we're going by now?

Okay 'Doc'.....for $100

How does the 'media' refer to people of ethnic origins south of the US border?

Speaking of, many Latinos object to the term Hispanics. I guarantee you if enough of them made a point of it..'Hispanics' would go away too.

By the way, how is it in the 'angry white male' demographic?

 

[Bearded_Menace]

".

African-American is unecessary. It's all PC shit.

I wonder who came up with that term. A lot of black people I know hate it so it leads me to believe that it was possibly concocted by someone who isn't black.