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Questioning the holocaust ... in Iran ...

What do you think of the conference in Iran questioning in the holocaust?

  • [b]Sorely Needed[/b]: There was no holocaust or the numbers were heavily exaggerated

    Votes: 3 3.5%
  • [b]Free Speech[/b]: I know it happened, but I think it's an unbiased conference asking questions

    Votes: 5 5.9%
  • [b]Free Politics[/b]: Holocaust or not, Israeli should not exist and its okay to say

    Votes: 8 9.4%
  • [b]Political Agenda[/b]: The conference has little to do with questioning and more with denying

    Votes: 22 25.9%
  • [b]Absolute Agenda[/b]: Despite PR, conference is filled with people who want to destroy Israel

    Votes: 37 43.5%
  • [b]No Comment[/b]: I live in a country where it is illegal to deny the holocaust

    Votes: 3 3.5%
  • [b]No Comment[/b]: Other

    Votes: 7 8.2%

  • Total voters
    85

Friday on my mind

Pain heals, chicks dig scars, Freeones lasts forever
There should be a "that's our meesterperfect" emoticon specifically for that comment.

Researchers arrived @ that number (actually the general consencus is that 5,2-5,8 million Jews were killed during WW2) with the help of pre and post war censuses and population estimates. Nazi documentation on deportations and murders was also used. Wether or not you believe this number to be true is irrelevant.

Even more distressing is not only the questioning of the numbers but the intimation that maybe anti-semtism was somehow justified.

Western christian based culture has to accept when it comes to genocide and killing it has no equals.
 

meesterperfect

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i dont see why that would be distressing. Do diferent rules apply to this subject?
Maybe its just me but I question things that dont seem to be correct, like Anti semitism (there a special word we must use for jewish instead of just plain racism).
I questioned and investigated why so many countrys have banished jews over history, and I have concluded there is more to it than "they hate us just because we're jewish".
I also have personal reasons to think theres more to it having done business with many jewish in NJ for several years. I noticed that almost all in that area had a superiorty complex and an overall unfair business attitude and after some time decided to avoid doing business with them.
Not because of "anti semitism", but because I didn't like their attitude.
Note: nothing Ive said or feel condones murder in any form.
 

Friday on my mind

Pain heals, chicks dig scars, Freeones lasts forever
Forgot, as far as the western world having no equals in genocide.
Why must you turn freeones into a house of lies?
Asia , Africa and Russia , need i say more.

Ouch the extreme racist anti-semite called me a liar.:eek::rofl:

Lets see, was western culture responsible for the extermination policy of the natives of north america, and two world wars in the last century which took killing and death totals to heights never seen before? Nah those history books are all lies told by jews and others.:rolleyes:
 

titsrock

I'm too lazy to set a usertitle.
Meester, you have a knack for saying something and then using your own thoughts to dig yourself a deep hole.

Good luck getting out of this latest one.
 

Gordar

If FreeOnes was a woman, I'd marry her!
I noticed that almost all in that area had a superiorty complex and an overall unfair business attitude and after some time decided to avoid doing business with them.
Not because of "anti semitism", but because I didn't like their attitude.
Note: nothing Ive said or feel condones murder in any form.

The attitude is logical & if you ever meet a true Christian or a true muslim, you'll find out that they have the same attitude. They are right after all & you are wrong. You refuse to see the truth even though it's biting in your nose. They'll be going to heaven, you'll be going to hell. I could go on for a while...

wikipedia said:
Various groups and individuals (see List of Messiah claimants) have considered themselves chosen by God for some purpose such as to act as God's agent on earth. This status may be viewed as a self-imposed higher standard to fulfill God's expectation.

Specifically, in the Hebrew Bible, called the Old Testament by Christians, and the Tanach by Jews, the phrase Chosen People refers to the ancient Hebrews/Israelites. In the Book of Deuteronomy, Yahweh proclaims the Nation of Israel, known originally simply as the Hebrews, as His holy people, chosen above all others (Deuteronomy 7:6). As mentioned in the Book of Exodus, the Hebrew people are God's chosen people and from them shall come the Messiah, or redeemer of the human race. The Israelites also possess the "Word of God" and/or "Law of God" in the form of the Torah as communicated by God to Moses. Jews and, by extension, Christians consider themselves to be the "chosen people". Adherents to Islam make, by the same extension as Christians, the same claim of chosenness by accepting what they see as the validity of the Law of God as told by Moses.

The big difference is that we've had some big schisms and a reformation. Add to this that if you ask many people if they believe in god, they'll say yes, but if you ask them if they literally believe in the bible, they'll look at you as if you're insane.

Christianity isn't what it was in ancient days. Everyone gives his or her own explanation to things and everyone does whatever he or she wants, whenever he or she wants and will use the god whenever it suits them.

A nice example is this place.

If I remember correctly Extravagance is one of the 7 deadly sins.

Extravagance is unrestrained excess. Extravagant behaviour includes the frequent purchase of luxury goods, and forms of debauchery.

Lust also falls into this category. Yet, we have a lot of 'believers' on this board, which is focussed on lust. All of them have one excuse or another, but if they were true Christians, they wouldn't be here.

If you'd talk to a Muslim he'd simply say christianity has become corrupt and he might even say an empty shell. I think Jews might believe the same thing. If you add the fact that Jews consider both Jesus & Muhammad to be false prophets & you might understand why they (orthodox Jews) feel slightly superior.
 

meesterperfect

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Ouch the extreme racist anti-semite called me a liar.:eek::rofl:

Lets see, was western culture responsible for the extermination policy of the natives of north america, and two world wars in the last century which took killing and death totals to heights never seen before? Nah those history books are all lies told by jews and others.:rolleyes:


Go ahead, disembowel me with your pointy pointy words.

Aw c'mon now Friiday., no need to call me that.
The house of lies comment was just a sarcastic joke.

I disagree with the number 6 million, I believe it was much less thats all. doesnt mean i hate jews or condone what happened.
And i thought you were wrong saying the western world has no equal in genocides or mass murders.
We are dumb all over, sure europe has some sick history, as does japan, cambodia, korea,many african countrys and russia, or the soviets, ect ect

Those thoughts don't equal racism, just an open mind.
 
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