Redneck bra

[AFA]

I was told this was a Redneck bra;

Redneck Bra

 

[member20672]

LOL :rofl2:

Oh boy, at first I was looking around for the guy behind her:1orglaugh

 

[Morlock]

That's pretty funny. What if I found a similar pic but of a black woman and made a thread titled "****** bra"?

Would that be funny too?

 

[member2686]

No it would not, and this one isn't very funny either. :2 cents:

That's pretty funny. What if I found a similar pic but of a black woman and made a thread titled "****** bra"?

Would that be funny too?

 

[spiceworld]

Great pic AFA !

 

[Morlock]

No it would not, and this one isn't very funny either.

That's my point - why are redneck* jokes okay but n-word* jokes (even questions about n-word jokes) cause for four negative reputation hits?

*racially specific term

Here are the girls who took offense, and their comments if any:

spiceworld - not funny
AmericanHarley
Nightfly - simply worthless/needless and offensive comment...
bendeco45 - not funny

Spiceworld thought the pic was funny, according to his post here, but didn't like the fact that I pointed out that redneck is a racist term. His comment was "not funny" but it seems like a poor reason to give someone negative rep.

American Harley thought the whole thing was funny, and that presumably includes the racist joke against rural white people. He left no comment so I guess he might've had a clue that he was being a hypocrite.

Nightfly agreed that the racist joke at the expense of rural white people was indeed not funny, but saw fit to call my comment "offensive."

I guess pointing out someone else's offensive behavior is offensive now. I was offended by the redneck joke.

Bendeco also seems to think simply being "not funny" is cause to give someone negative rep.

I wonder if the guy who posted the offensive racist joke at the expense of rural white people got any negative rep. I wonder if the people who laughed at this tasteless shit caught any negative rep.

Why is it that making fun of "rednecks" is soooo fucking funny but making fun of blacks or jews or orientals is soooo fucking offensive? Why is it that racist terms are okay when used against white people (especially southern rural white people) but they're bad when used against non-white people or non-Christian people?

Btw, the bra pic is funny - there was no need to attach a racist epithet to it.

 

[member2686]

The difference between the connotations of "redneck" and "******" is tremendous.

The year is 2006, not 1956...or 1856 :2 cents:

:hatsoff:

 

[Morlock]

The difference between the connotations of "redneck" and "******" is tremendous.

The year is 2006, not 1956...or 1856

Ah, I see. We're gonna split hairs now.

So, if I'd chosen a different racially-specific epithet for blacks, say "jigaboo" or "porch monkey," eveyrthing would be hunkey-dorey then?

I think you're full of it.

I suppose you might try and bullshit me about the difference between "******" and "*****" if I brought up the self-identification issue?

 

[Ax3C]

"XXXXX" thought the pic was funny, according to his post here, but didn't like the fact that I pointed out that redneck is a racist term.

I guess it's high-time to provide a reality check as well as some much needed education to various folks on this here Board with regards to the etymology and meaning of the term "Redneck" ...

AHEM.

Possible Scots-Irish Etymology

The word "redneck" was first cited in Scotland. In Scotland, the National Covenant and The Solemn League and Covenant (a.k.a. Covenanters) signed documents stating that Scotland desired a Presbyterian Church Government, and rejected the Church of England as their official church. Many of the Covenanters signed these documents using their own blood, and many in the movement began wearing red pieces of cloth around their neck to signify their position to the public. They were referred to as Rednecks. These Scottish Presbyterians migrated from their lowland Scottish home to Ulster (the northern province of Ireland) during the 17th Century and soon settled in considerable numbers in North America across the 18th Century. Some immigrated directly from Scotland to the American colonies in the late 18th and early 19th-centuries as a result of the Lowland Clearances. One etymological theory holds that since many Scots-Irish Americans who settled in Appalachia and the South were Presbyterian, the term was bestowed upon them and their descendants.

Possible American Etymology

Popular etymology says that the term derives from such individuals having a red neck caused by working outdoors in the sunlight over the course of their lifetime. The effect of decades of direct sunlight on the exposed skin of the back of the neck not only reddens fair skin, but renders it leathery and tough, and typically very wrinkled and spotted by late middle age.

“Rednecks” are largely descendants of the Ulster-Scots and Lowland Scots immigrants who travelled to North America from Northern Ireland and Scotland in the late 17th and 18th centuries. The Ulster-Scots had historically settled the major part of Ulster province in northern Ireland, after previous migration from the Scottish Lowlands and Border Country. These pioneering people and their descendants are known in North America as the Scots-Irish. The "Celtic Thesis" of Forrest McDonald and Grady McWhiney holds that they were basically Celtic (as opposed to Anglo-Saxon), and that all Celtic groups (Scots Irish, Scottish, Welsh and others) were warlike herdsmen, in contrast to the peaceful farmers who predominated in England.

In Colonial times, they were often called "Rednecks" and "crackers" by English neighbors. As one wrote, "I should explain ... what is meant by Crackers; a name they have got from being great boasters; they are a lawless set of rascalls on the frontiers of Virginia, Maryland, the Carolinas, and Georgia, who often change their places of abode."

“Rednecks,” and especially Tennesseeans, are known for their martial spirit. Tennessee is known as the "Volunteer State" for the overwhelming, unexpected number of Tennesseans who volunteered for duty in the American Revolutionary War, the War of 1812, the Texas Revolution (including the defense of the Alamo), and especially the Mexican War. During the Civil War, poor whites did most of the fighting and the dying on both sides of the conflict. Although poor southern whites stood to gain little from secession, and were usually ambivalent to the institution of slavery, they were fiercely defensive of their territory and loyal to their homes and families.

"Redneck" is a term for those of Southern or Appalachian rural poor backgrounds, or more loosely, rural poor to working-class persons of rural extraction. (Appalachia also includes large parts of Pennsylvania, New York and other states) Within that group, however, it is used to describe the more downscale members. Rednecks span from the poor to the working class.

Usage of the term "Redneck" generally differs from "Hick" and "Hillbilly", because "Redneck(s)" reject or resist assimilation into the dominant culture, while "Hicks" and "Hillbillies" theoretically are isolated from the dominant culture. It is used both as a term of pride and as a derogatory epithet; sometimes to paint country people and/or their lifestyle as being low class. In recent years, members of the American Left from the West Coast and New England have taken to calling Christian Conservatives as "Rednecks" presumably as some sort of insult. This practice succeeds in insulting both Rednecks and Christian Conservatives, but is grossly inaccurate based on the pro-labor, anti-establishment, anti-hierarchy religious orientation of traditional Rednecks.

Humor / Satire

In the 1990s, when Jeff Foxworthy drawled "you might be a redneck …" he was not only needling folks who (in his priceless formulation) had ever fought over an inner tube. In one of his stand-up routines, Foxworthy sums up the condition as "a glorious absence of sophistication." According to University of Georgia professor James C. Cobb, "Now, feeling relatively secure and closer to the mainstream, they rebel against acting respectable, embracing this counterculture hero—the 'redneck' who is what he is, and doesn't give a damn what anybody thinks."

The stereotypical redneck lives in a trailer or old weatherbeaten farm house in a rural area, and drives an old, large, beat-up pickup truck, possibly adorned with the Confederate Battle Flag, with a gun rack in the rear window. He may wear a "Wifebeater" (a white sleeveless undershirt), or a farmer t-shirt. He also wears blue jeans, a baseball or trucker hat. The jeans of redneck men often have a permanent circle on the back-pocket from carrying a can of dipping tobacco, such as Skoal or Copenhagen. Their hair is often worn in the mullet style, or in a military-style haircut. He is also prone to swearing, perhaps not as much as the stereotypical Yankee, but more than other Southerners, Mountaineers, or Appalachians.

A redneck is stereotypically imagined as consuming mass produced American beer such as Budweiser or Miller by the case. Other beverages might include Moonshine, Pabst Blue Ribbon, as well as Jack Daniel's whiskey.

Stereotypical hobbies include hunting, fishing, riding 4-wheelers, and watching professional wrestling, Stock car racing, and monster truck rallies. Rednecks are characteristically fond of repairing car engines and collecting junked cars on their lawns.

Country and Southern Rock bands such as Lynyrd Skynyrd, the Allman Brothers, and ZZ Top figure in as their preferred genre of music. Redneck men also listen to Hard Rock and Metal such as Ted Nugent, Alice In Chains, Pantera, AC/DC, Led Zeppelin, David Lee Roth era Van Halen, Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, Ratt, Motörhead, Bad Company, and Guns N' Roses.

Redneck females are sometimes portrayed as sexually promiscuous. "Daisy dukes" are a name for the extremely small shorts worn by the character "Daisy Duke" on the popular television program (and 2005 film) The Dukes of Hazzard.

Rednecks are often portrayed as lacking education or being ignorant. However, they usually have enough common sense to outwit their adversaries.

Urban Rednecks

Although the idea of an Urban Redneck would at first seem an oxymoron, they do exist and are actually quite common. There are basically three different kinds of Urban Rednecks.

* The Transplanted Redneck is found in urban centers all over the world. His job or his dreams have forced him to leave his native community in search of new opportunities. The Transplanted Redneck remains true to himself and his culture, despite immersion in the urban landscape. A transplanted redneck, or pair of rednecks, may raise a family in the city and retain their redneck characteristics for several generations.

* The Poser is found all over North America, but is especially concentrated in cities in the Southern United States, Nevada and Utah. These individuals may have no Redneck roots, or even be a transplanted Yankee, but either seek acceptance in their new homes, or have vastly distorted perceptions of the social norms in their adopted communities. The Urban Cowboy phenomenon that started in the 1980s is characterized by individuals in full country & western garb, that have never even been near a horse.

* The Postmodern Redneck is also found all over North America. The Postmodern Redneck may, or may not, have Redneck roots. As opposed to "The Poser", the Postmodern Redneck has experienced a philosophical transformation in which he rejects modernism and urbanity, in favor of simpler more genuine way of life. The Postmodern Redneck is often an educated professional who owns guns, hunts wild game, and isn't afraid to get his hands dirty changing oil or cleaning a stable.

Maybe it's your own racial insecurities, Morlock, that prevent you from being proud of the term "Redneck". Lighten up, huh? It's only about race when one makes it about race ... and so far, YOU are the only one complaining about racial issues.

Food for thought there, bubba. You might jus' wanna chew on that there information for awhile and let it marinate up there in that ol' brain-bucket of yours. Might do ya some good.

 

[DrMotorcity]

First of all, I must say that I regret ever having perused this thread.
Second of all, I can't help but to support some of the sentiments expressed by Morlock in his initial reply. When, actually, does any of this stop? We have among us here within this thread a person of whom is known to be "Asian," which in itself brings about a specific (although quite possibly inacurate) inference as to skin pigmentation. How do we justify our comments (that are plausibly based on broad, unsubstantiated generalizations) in this instance?
In any event, I know that I can justify mine.

 

[member2686]

Great post, Axxx. :nanner: :thumbsup: :nanner:

Can you say "

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[D-rock]

I think the difference is when somebody makes a racial, religious, or ethnic slur they are attacking that group of people. Often it is done without any idea of what the person you are insulting is like. To me the term redneck is something entirely different, it is a person that has chosen to leave class, common sense, and respect for other people behind (or some combination of the above). The INDIVIDUAL is a redneck because he chooses to live his life that way. Keep in mind that is different from somebody that is rural or poor, because I know a lot people like that and I am both of those. Some are classy people that are nice and have a lot of common sense. Unfortunately others really are real rednecks. There is no "race" of rednecks. I don't see how you think there is. I think it is similar in principle to somebody calling somebody else a jerk or an asshole when they think they are acting that way, except it's not even that bad. It is an insult, maybe...actually probably? On the other hand would you go around saying that person is making racist remarks at the "asshole" race against all the assholes in the world?

 

[SeraphiM]

That's pretty funny. What if I found a similar pic but of a black woman and made a thread titled "N*** bra"?

Would that be funny too?

Good Lord,

How could you ever compare these two words?
I would be more concerned about the meaning behind he word, than it's over all use.
I didn't find the pic humorous at all.
Being from the Deep Dark South Georgia Back-Woods, where people around here are born wearing camouflage, I didn't find the title offensive.

 

[Ax3C]

Good Lord,

How could you ever compare these two words?
I would be more concerned about the meaning behind he word, than it's over all use.
I didn't find the pic humorous at all.
Being from the Deep Dark South Georgia Back-Woods, where people around here are born wearing camouflage, I didn't find the title offensive.

GIT 'ER DONE!!! :bowdown:

 

[Black Star]

Good Lord,

How could you ever compare these two words?
I would be more concerned about the meaning behind he word, than it's over all use.
I didn't find the pic humorous at all.
Being from the Deep Dark South Georgia Back-Woods, where people around here are born wearing camouflage, I didn't find the title offensive.

I completely agree Seraphim.

I guess I should weigh in as well. I am black, and to even think that redneck is a term that has the historical rooting of n***** (I starred that out myself, just in case anybody else finds it offensive) is completely ridiculous.

Personally speaking, I don't even find redneck as a term that is confined to one race. Although I initially envision a white male, a redneck to me can be a person of any race or either gender. In my mind, it simply means a person from a rural area who has certain characteristics (accent, television habits, lifestyle in general).

The word n***** specifically refers to a black person, and was used during slavery. I don't live in America, and my family has no ties to being slaves, but it still immensely offends me to hear that used. I have only ever been called that once, and the situation ended poorly. I consider myself a very rational and calm person, but I can't explain the surge of anger that swept through me at that time.

Now, I am not going to negative rep you for that comment, as I think that you are simply misguided, not a racist. AXXXC's post seems to be very informative, I hope you read it carefully.

 

[Morlock]

Maybe it's your own racial insecurities, Morlock, that prevent you from being proud of the term "Redneck". Lighten up, huh? It's only about race when one makes it about race ... and so far, YOU are the only one complaining about racial issues.

Food for thought there, bubba. You might jus' wanna chew on that there information for awhile and let it marinate up there in that ol' brain-bucket of yours. Might do ya some good.

Maybe you should keep your armchair pop-psychoanalysis to yourself.

Do you tell blacks to "lighten up" when they object to some racial term you've used regarding blacks, or do you backpeddle as fast as your little white legs will carry you? More likely, you tiptoe around the racial sensibilities of blacks and don't use any terms to refer to them except "African American" or maybe "black."

It's only about race when one makes it about race? WTF does that mean? "Redneck" is a racist term that refers only to whites, specifically poor rural southern whites. The term itself is racially specific, therefore the joke is racially specific, therefore you can hang responsibility for the introduction of the race issue where it belongs, on the fella who started the thread.

Yeah, I'm the only one complaining, so what? You seem to be using an appeal to authority (the "authority" of numbers) by implication here. Try Googling for your nearest logical fallacies site.

As for being "proud" of the term Redneck - I'm tired of anti-white jokes being the only racial jokes allowed. The gig is up. No more fun for anybody. That includes people who like laughing at jokes at white people's expense.

Blacks refer to one another with the N-word* with great frequency, but that doesn't stop them from raising holy hell when a white person uses it, and it doesn't stop them from objecting when blacks use the term either. It also doesn't change the word as an earner of instant career-death for public figures.

*I can blather about the historical origins of the N-word too. It comes by long route from the Latin "negro" which simply means black. I could blather about how it "just means black" but why would I insult your intelligence?

"Redneck" is used pejoratively:
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=redneck

red·neck
n. Offensive Slang

1. Used as a disparaging term for a member of the white rural laboring class, especially in the southern United States.
2. A white person regarded as having a provincial, conservative, often bigoted attitude.

It's mind-boggling that I have to explain this to you.