Religion

[member20672]

Since when is religion not allowed as a discussion topic?
http://board.freeones.com/showpost.php?p=631774&postcount=2
http://board.freeones.com/showpost.php?p=631769&postcount=6

I have flipped through the board rules and have found no restrictions in regards to religion discussion. Be it that the above two topics were not in the best of spirit in terms of the chosen religion. But the disallowance of not discussing religion has got me curious.

1. The following subjects are in NO WAY allowed on the Freeones Message Board and people who start and/or participate in such a thread will be banned immediately:

- Child Pornography or any discussions of underage models/girls.

- Racial Discrimination

- Beastiality

- Incest

- Sexual Assualt. Rape, or any way of staged rape discussions are not welcome here. Saying that the models knew what they came for does not help you at all.


Religion remains absent from this list.

 

[ThomasJenkins]

I find it funny that the moderator states "Let's talk about good things" and the end of his post.... so religion is not a good thing?

 

[spiceworld]

Maybe Religion is too vague... The guy was just spamming, normally, when somebody starts that many threads about the same subject, they get banned... but he was'nt...

 

[cabey]

I think with the current situation its dangerous to talk about Islam especially if it might invoke criticism, maybe its a sign of the times that negativity might end up with Freeones Headquarters getting bombed.
It may sound dramatic but you would think that about a cartoon wouldn't you.

My personal view is that if a topic is dealt with maturely then no topic is off limits....but I don't make the rules, i just follow them.

 

[member20672]

Well, the statement made by the moderator did not single out one religion, but commented for it(religion), in the whole. Therefore raising this question.

 

[poggy]

One of the best ways to start arguements is by religion.So I think any thread using it as the topic shouldn't be aloud.Me personally,I'm not religous at all so don't give a damn.But a lot of people do and take it to heart if people disagree with them over it.

 

[member20672]

That may be certainly true poggy. But the fact is that, as of now, religion is not excluded in the Board rules. Which brings to question, as to what significance the quoted posts have. I understand it is the mods rights to not allow certain things. But the disallowance of religion, would be expected to be written into the board rules.
I don't mean to hate on this mod. But if something as big as religion is not allowed, then it should be in the board rules.

 

[cabey]

Well, the statement made by the moderator did not single out one religion, but commented for it(religion), in the whole. Therefore raising this question.

I obviously agree with the fact of the moderators comment AH but i wonder if the actual religion in question played a part. I think so but i don't think anyone at Freeones Hq would agree.
It would certainly be prudent for a mod to administer prevention in these turbulent unpredictable times.
I know that in Europe and in my own society to even discuss Islam is not a great idea because it only takes one wrong thing to be said and all hell breaks loose.

 

[member20672]

And that makes sense cabey. And I can understand how the content of the threads would lead to a statement such as that. Which begs the need for clarification. IMO

 

[cabey]

And that makes sense cabey. And I can understand how the content of the threads would lead to a statement such as that. Which begs the need for clarification. IMO

Yep i would agree with you, clarification is needed

 

[poggy]

I see it still as easy.As not to offend anyone due to there no doubt there been my different religions on here.The mods think it best to try not to encourage any religion on here.To stop arguements before they start really.Then the bannings from said arguements.

 

[member20672]

Another true statement poggy. But still "we will not discuss about religion"

That wipes out a lot of simple topics and as I've said above, needs to be clarified.
I'm not the most religious man you will meet. But I'd still like to feel I could discuss it on this board. And the statements made seem to say No. Which, if that is true, need to be placed somewhere ie. The Board Rules.

 

[redcurry]

Anyone who dares to criticise any aspect of the moderation here seems to get jumped on so I have to be careful what I say.

There are a number of moderators here, so they can't all be tarred with the same brush, but I do have issues with some of the things I see.

Tonight, I read a moderator basically implying you have to be ''messed up'' to get into being a porn star - if anything else had written that they would have been crucified.

I support American Harley's wish to be able to discuss religion if he so wishes.

This is a porn forum FFS, so little, or nothing, should be taboo.

 

[DrMotorcity]

Either the topic of religion, as in all religions, should be permitted for discussion, or the topic of in religion, as in all religions, should be prohibited. As initially posted by AmericanHarley, no mention of any restriction regarding the discussion of religion has been documented and therefore presented in the official rules of which we all have read and re-read.
If indeed such rule does exist (and of course, we members will be the last to know about it) it should apply to all religions and not merely be selectively enforced, nor should it serve as a haphazardly-imposed, all-purpose instrument of prohibition when ever the discussion at hand skirts what could be interpreted as controversial subject matter (in the proverbial eye of the beholder kind of perception).
To wit:
Iraq--out
Iran--out
Hamas--out
Yemen--out
Jewel D'Nyle--out
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under--oh, sorry...

 

[poggy]

Either the topic of religion, as in all religions, should be permitted for discussion, or the topic of in religion, as in all religions, should be prohibited. As initially posted by AmericanHarley, no mention of any restriction regarding the discussion of religion has been documented and therefore presented in the official rules of which we all have read and re-read.
If indeed such rule does exist (and of course, we members will be the last to know about it) it should apply to all religions and not merely be selectively enforced, nor should it serve as a haphazardly-imposed, all-purpose instrument of prohibition when ever the discussion at hand skirts what could be interpreted as controversial subject matter (in the proverbial eye of the beholder kind of perception).
To wit:
Iraq--out
Iran--out
Hamas--out
Yemen--out
Jewel D'Nyle--out
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under--oh, sorry...

As I said to Harley,one the best ways to start an arguement is by religion.I'd stand by any mod closing a thread because it turned into a religion thread.I really don't see why it should be in the board rules as some people could take that as an offence too.Some people are funny that way when it comes to religion.

People should have more sence anyway and start or talk religion in a thread.As the amount of things the mod team would have to do just to stop people flaming each other would be unreal.Then as I also stated before the amount of banning due to the flaming would be out of control too.:2 cents:

 

[member20672]

As we've seen in the past poggy, even the simpliest of thread ideas can turn into flaming arguments. Basically, and as I've said, I would like some clarification on this. This is, or was last time I checked, a free talk board. Therefore religion discussions should be allowed IMO Even simple things like when the new pope was chosen would violate the ousting of religious talk.

Clarification. That's all I want.

 

[poggy]

And as I said above it doesn't need to be put in the board rules.It should be common sense not to start thread or go on to the topic of religion.After all there are many religions on here and some maybe offended by what is put.

So I still agree with closing threads on religion and think it needs to be put in the rules.How big do you want the rules to be,if there to big no ones going to read them.Then you get more problems than your getting now.

 

[member20672]

Some may be offended by other's race, color, favorite soccer team. You can offend someone by a million things smaller than religion.

I'm not saying that I want to start a thread on religion, but I would like to know whether or not I may discuss it.

Something as big as religion, should be in the board rules if it isn't allowed.

As I've over said, clarification. If not in the board rules, then in this thread. I just want to know if the comments made by this mod, are the same to be upheld by all FreeOnes mods/admins and staff.

 

[mythex]

I think that we never touch religion in this forum...
some of the religion forbid the nudity for general..so I just think that we should let it be.

 

[poggy]

Some may be offended by other's race, color, favorite soccer team. You can offend someone by a million things smaller than religion.

I'm not saying that I want to start a thread on religion, but I would like to know whether or not I may discuss it.

Something as big as religion, should be in the board rules if it isn't allowed.

As I've over said, clarification. If not in the board rules, then in this thread. I just want to know if the comments made by this mod, are the same to be upheld by all FreeOnes mods/admins and staff.

Like I've said how long do you want the board rules to be.If every single thing was put into the board rules that wasn't allowed,like I said no one would read them.You have to rely on the mods to enforce some of the smaller rules and explain them at the time.If you you want this put into the board rules it becomes a case of what you going to leave out of the allowed and not allowed section.

Imagine your just joining the board and the first thing you see is this massive board rules statement come up.Now you have 2 choices here sit and read this for 20 minutes or so,wading through the legal stuff that bores most people.Or just click 'I understand the board rules' and carry on.I'd say 80 to 90 percent would just click and come onto the board and start making a lot of mistakes.This would put a lot of work onto the mods and would also lower the standard of the great board we have here.As they'ed not have much chance to maintain the board and also post some great posts themselves.