Republican Party Favorability Sinks to Record Low

[Straight Shooter]

There may be plenty of blame to go around for the nine-day government shutdown, but the Republican brand is taking the harder hit in public opinion.

Just 28 percent of Americans have a favorable impression of the Republican Party, down 10 percentage points from last month, according to a Gallup poll. The polling firm called it a "record low," noting that "this is the lowest favorable rating measured for either party since Gallup began asking this question in 1992."

While the Democratic Party isn’t popular either, it fared better, with 43 percent of Americans approving of the party -- down a comparatively small 4 points from September.

The percentage of Americans rating the Republicans unfavorably also reached a record high of 60 percent, while 49 percent gave the Democrats a negative rating. Remarkably, more than one-quarter of Republicans (27 percent) viewed their own party unfavorably.

In Gallup's tracking, the only previous loss of approval that came anywhere close for the Republicans was a drop from 43 to 31 percent immediately following the House of Representatives vote to impeach President Bill Clinton in December 1998. As The New Republic's Nate Cohn notes, the only good news for the Republicans is that the last time, their rating snapped back to 40 percent a few weeks later.

Nonetheless, the negative perceptions of Republicans during the impeachment debate helped Democrats to gain five House seats in the November 1998 election. That was the first time since 1934 that the president's party gained seats in a midterm election.

The Gallup poll surveyed 1,028 adults between Oct. 3 and Oct. 6.

Think it's a coincidence that after this poll came out the GOP decided to finally enter into talks with the White House? This poll spread like a wildfire on Capitol Hill and the GOP took notice of it

 

[Jack Davenport]

And what are their sample demos? Let's just assume that this a perfect sample of about 40 40 20 Dem Rep Ind. That means that 50 percent of Repubs are disenchanted and they all aren't pissed at the tea party. That leaves moderates in the cross hairs. And who could be pissed at moderates? Why con seeerrrvatiiives! Now I know you are just about to wet your panties over this GOP implosion but there are whole lotta things that can happen between now and then. You gotta give the Dems 13 more months of your life sweetpea. So while you are out there listening to Mick Jagger music and bad mouthing the congress it's just you me and the pollsters. BTW have you renewed your subscription to the Atlantic yet? Getting about that time.

 

[Straight Shooter]

Hey you limey asswipe. Yes that is what I saying. Here's how it works. Any group with an agenda creates a think tank and conducts research to skew the numbers in favor of their cause. Right now the big hoopla is healthcare so start putting info ovt there that medical bills are the number one cause of personal bankruptcy. You fucking right i base my opinion on personal experience.

Ok man I am going to say something and you can take it for what it's worth. You are the fucker who started with the insults toward me before I ever said anything to you in response. It is always some smartass remark based upon yovr dislike of a political opinion and instead of spelling out why you disagree you just jump in bomb throwing. I don't recall one instance of you engaging in debate without calling someone a dumbass or making generalizations.Unless of course the poster has somewhat of a moderate POV and then you may be a little reserved in how you react. Their are some very liberal posters whom I have disagreements with but it never reaches the point that it does with you. I don't give a fuck how tough you think you are or if you like my opinions or not you are the one who raises the level of discourse around here. I have a temper myself and if someone is a dickhead to me I can be one too. Anything I said to you about your job or education started first with you. You don't have to like me. respect me or otherwise but make damn certain that I will not take any shit from you and if you are going to engage in debate and the best you can muster is name calling and an air of ideological superiority then don't be surprised if my response is every bit as nasty as you think you are being. There are some posters here that I disagree with vehemently yet don't seem to reach the level I have with you. Perhaps you should reflect on yourself and You Might see that it starts with you. The next time you want to be particularly insulting to me ask yourself if you want to meet up with me the next time I am Vegas and if you do, decide if you want to say those things to my face. I am willing to bet that you won't. Not trying to be a bad ass but I am not going to spend my time on this board constantly having a back and forth with yov. You can decide which way you want this to go as I don't give a fuck.

Oh I will be there cunt. In fact I always go in December so you won't have tn wait long. The only thing I will bring is a pair of pliers so after I lay you out with one punch I will remove what teeth you have left and post the photos here of you and your cunt lipped face. I am not afraid of spending a few hours in jail to get the chance to expose what a big talking pussy you are. I also notice you make a lot of references to little girls. Got something you want to tell us bitch?

Don't worry sugar britches I haven't turned down the chance to knock a muhfucka out that deserved it even once in my life. And nobody is more deserving of a BC ass whipping than you are right now. Consider your prayers answered trick. It will just be me and my set of pliers.and after I finish giving you some desperately needed dental work I will kindly ram those pliers up your ass. I know how you like that. Shit even Mariah doesn't like you? What a two bit trick you must be.

I don't make threats Mayqueen. I make promises. Don't worry son as they say what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Make all the copies you want And get me a coffee will ya?

This keyboard commando is a major titwhistle and comes to this board daily with a chip on his shoulder. Then when someone calls him on it he gets sand in his vag . Hell I even made two gestures to call a truce and the fat fuck keeps going. The fucker can't help himself. At that point I decided that i wovld give him the opportunity to say it to my face and then he gets beer muscles. Sam Fisher looks like Steven Hawking compared to this mental giant. Anyway now he is all up in arms because I threatened to peel his onion lol. And you want to see lawyers fight and how much we worry about threats. Check out one of ous softball games. Come at me bro.

I'm just laughing at you right now BC. I could just reply with some smart aleck answer just to get you foaming at the mouth but I won't. It's clear that you have major anger issues and it's one thing to have anger issues but to manifest it in a porn forum over politics, come on you're a grown man. If you're trying to make me feel pathetic over the Atlantic thing, I suggest you reread your quotes up above and maybe then you'll see who the pathetic one really is. I wish you the best BC, I really do.

 

[wdoall]

Daaamn

 

[Mariahxxx]

our health care is ranked #38 in the world - the 37 better than us ALL have universal health care. Every one of them. Our life expectancy is ranking is #50. yet we spend more on health care than anyone. Why? Well for one patients are now customers. it's a for profit business, with 272 of the fortune 500 companies being health care either related - either insurance or pharmaceutical. we all know the recipe for profit: as little cost for the maximum amount of money. so the money is in treatments not cures. once we started making health care a billion dollar business in the 1970s our health care went to shit. if you have money, you are fine. if you don't you are fucked. its that simple.

the fact that the republicans want to fuck our government over an attempt at improving the quality of our health care when they have NEVER offered a viable option is laughable and is a very clear picture they paint of them pandering to the companies that profit the most from our shitty health care system.

Come up with a reasonable plan and then bitch and moan.

 

[Jack Davenport]

Iceman. Can I call you Iceman? Pull up a seat will ya? Now those were some things that were posted by me and I guess that it is only fair that they be thrown in my face. But honestly there has not been a long pattern of flying off of the handle by me here. Aside from the incidents with Mayhem which has been discussed privately by myself the PTB and Mayhem, I have not flown off the handle. That does not excuse it. Now if you are saying that my post on this thread in any way reached that level then you are delusional. This is the second time in 2 days that you have brought this up. You got bent ovt of shape when I brought up your copy and paste job from the Atlantic. And it was a week between comments. There was not angry or threatening in that post. Get over it.

 

[Mayhem]

Let me chime in to say that indeed, PMs have been exchanged, a truce was called and civility was restored. We should also respect that what happened was a singular incident in the history of a long-time member. In other words, someone had a bad fuckin' day on here and if none of the rest of you ever had a bad day, or haven't had one on here....I have. I've had them before, I'll have them again and if I can get over it the rest of you can damn well get over it too.


Now, back to what's important.......FREE HAT McCULLOUGH!!! rotest::angrymob: FREE HAT...Free Hat...free hat...free hat...free hat


Anyone? Anyone?

 

[Jack Davenport]

My bad days shouldn't be brought to this board. I just thought that if Ice was a big enough of a fan of cheesy 80's military flicks to adopt a username based on one, he would appreciate a few paraphrased lines from another cheesy 80's military flick.

 

[georges]

our health care is ranked #38 in the world - the 37 better than us ALL have universal health care. Every one of them. Our life expectancy is ranking is #50. yet we spend more on health care than anyone. Why? Well for one patients are now customers. it's a for profit business, with 272 of the fortune 500 companies being health care either related - either insurance or pharmaceutical. we all know the recipe for profit: as little cost for the maximum amount of money. so the money is in treatments not cures. once we started making health care a billion dollar business in the 1970s our health care went to shit. if you have money, you are fine. if you don't you are fucked. its that simple.

the fact that the republicans want to fuck our government over an attempt at improving the quality of our health care when they have NEVER offered a viable option is laughable and is a very clear picture they paint of them pandering to the companies that profit the most from our shitty health care system.

Come up with a reasonable plan and then bitch and moan.

Yes and you think that the 37 countries who are in front of your country in terms of healthcare system, aren't dealing with more serious problems ? Several socialist governed European countries (especially Nordic and Scandinavian ones) have a great healthcare system but they are facing a lot of problems with immigration and people who are not working and who clearly abuse of this system. They also face a criminality on the rise. You should know as someone who is born and raised in the US, that the US works as a business, it is not a communitarian place, it is only a place for who has money and who is willing to take risks. The Republicans don't want the hardworking citizens paying health care for other people who have never busted their asses off during their whole life.

 

[Mariahxxx]

there you said it. finally someone with the guts (or pure lack of wit) said it. "it is only a place for who has money and who is willing to take risks."

So what if you're born poor by no fault of your own? what if the company you work for goes out of business by no fault of your own? What if your parents didnt have the money to send you to college and you had to get a job right out of high school? What if you were born to a 15 year old by no fault of your own?

So you are saying out loud that those people don't count? Wow. so who is going to work for all of those wealthy people georges? who is going to service their lawns and fix their appliances when they break? Who is going to serve their meals when they eat in a restaurant? It isn't other "people with money" now is it? There is a HUGE number of people in the this country, you know, the one you've visited 9 times, that do bust their asses but can't afford to pay for health care georges. You try making $12 an hour and feeding yourself and paying rent and putting gas in a car and god forbid raising a child.

When a million people a year declare bankruptcy because of medical bills georges that means they can't buy things, which puts money in those lovely wealthy people's pockets, right? if they can't buy a house or a car or a student loan or a credit card because of their demolished credit from having their tonsils out or breaking their leg or whatever, how does that benefit ANYONE?

 

[wdoall]

Yes and you think that the 37 countries who are in front of your country in terms of healthcare system, aren't dealing with more serious problems ? Several socialist governed European countries (especially Nordic and Scandinavian ones) have a great healthcare system but they are facing a lot of problems with immigration and people who are not working and who clearly abuse of this system. They also face a criminality on the rise. You should know as someone who is born and raised in the US, that the US works as a business, it is not a communitarian place, it is only a place for who has money and who is willing to take risks. The Republicans don't want the hardworking citizens paying health care for other people who have never busted their asses off during their whole life.

.is that why they raise taxes on the middle class, reinstate small business taxes to give tax breaks to multi billion dollar companies sending jobs out of this country? that's all bullshit! there about the rich and f ing the middle class just like the Democrats are about pandering to the poor and lazy while f ing the middle class. we get screwed, the hard working Americans get screwed by both sides

 

[Mariahxxx]

Verizon made $40 billion in profit last year and paid ZERO in taxes. ZERO. GE got a $3 BILLION dollar return. how is that fair or sensible?

 

[wdoall]

according to the IRS Americans that make between 26,000 and $40,000 a year, pay a larger percentage in income tax than any other group in America. but as a conservative friend of mine told me it's only fair. they give you a job so you should pay their taxes for them smh

 

[Mariahxxx]

your friend is a fucking retard. if he wants to talk about fair, that isnt the side to take.

if you make $10 million a year and pay 38% you still have plenty of money to live on agreed? what if you make $50,000 a year and pay 33%? still enough to live on? nope.

 

[wdoall]

its a she Mariah but I agree with you that's why she and I don't talk politics anymore but that 38 percent the millionaires pay after all the write offs they get that average people don't, most of them are paying between 12 and 15 percent in taxes which is far less than what we pay

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I would love to see a flat tax with no loopholes

 

[Jack Davenport]

I would love to see a flat tax with no loopholes

Well fuck! There's hope for you yet.

 

[wdoall]

I've been crowing about flat taxes for years, neither party wants any part of them though

 

[Mariahxxx]

it would make too much sense and the rich wouldnt get to jibber jabber their way out of paying and they certainly wouldnt want to have to pay the same % as common laborers would. that would be insulting!

 

[E-Ann-Hilden]

Real Clear Politics Avg polls of congress really put it at 10% , doubt any person likes either party!

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/congressional_job_approval-903.html

 

[Mariahxxx]

I would love to meet the 10% who like it lol