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Roommate Question

Ziggous

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Here's a hypothetical legal question to the forum. Lets say I have two roommates that are not on the apartment lease, what steps can I take to remove them from my premises?
 

betagammapi

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They aren't on the lease, they have no right to stay. Check local laws, but you should be able to tell them to just get out by tomorrow otherwise it is trespassing.
 

Tittyman5000

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Two words, Liquid Ass! Buy some & spray their belongings :D
 

Ziggous

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Cops have been called and they claim there's nothing that can be done as long as they pay the rent
 

PlumpRump

If FreeOnes was a woman, I'd marry her!
Depending on which state you live in, it can be tricky. Even if they aren't on he lease, but they have a reasonable assumption that the domicile is their residence (ie they've been constantly "living," there with their belongings etc...) for more than 2 weeks some states still require a 30 day notice of "eviction," whether or not they're on the lease, such as California does.
 

D-rock

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Depending on which state you live in, it can be tricky. Even if they aren't on he lease, but they have a reasonable assumption that the domicile is their residence (ie they've been constantly "living," there with their belongings etc...) for more than 2 weeks some states still require a 30 day notice of "eviction," whether or not they're on the lease, such as California does.

Even then there might be some ways around that depending on the laws where he‘s at, although I'm not familiar with California law on this or even Michigan law that much for that matter when it comes to this. Since they don't own the place, it might be possible to legally change the locks on them while they are out(although not in this situation without the owners permission because it's a lease or rental, or at least I assume so because it's an apartment.) You might also be able to institute draconian rules of the residence that they are unwilling to live with but you can considering you're the one that controls the place (especially good to get rid of a person that a heavy smoker for example) and call the authorities if they break them. If you catch them doing anything even technically illegal and record it it might be easier to get the authorities to kick them out. Another thing is that since it's a rental, if you aren't technically allowed to have them living there per signed agreement with the owner, even if you might get into a little trouble for it from the same person, it might be more possible for the landlord or owner of the property to have the authorities come and kick those people out for you considering they never authorized them to be there in the first place and you never had the authority yourself to have them live there yourself.

In any case ever taking rent from somebody you live with and could have a falling out with and might not want in your place later is very foolhardy.

I don’t know if this is legal either, but if you are allowed to charge rent of your own to them now that you have to officially have eviction proceeding with them maybe you could tell them that the rent is now something like $300 dollars a day until they leave, especially if they don't have any official agreement for an amount that they will pay you that they could show anybody, and if they persist you will challenge them in court to get the full amount. Maybe even record a video telling them they now have to pay that much.
 

PirateKing

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Agree with D-rock. If they don't have a lease then you can up the rent. If they can't pay the rent then they have to leave. You can call the locksmith and have him change the locks. The cops rarely give you the right advice because they're afraid to get involved.

I kinda like the idea Blueballs came up with though. If anybody asks you, just say they moved out and they're probably wandering the streets. Then offer them some delicious "mystery" meat that you happen to have an abundance of.
 

jod0565

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You'll have to evict them with a court order.
After that - get no more roommates.

Good luck.
 

meesterperfect

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ziggous, read this post and trust me.
i have been in this situation before

do you have a legal contract with these people?
are they on the lease?

if not they are guests in your house and the police must remove them.
and if they don't, then lie.
tell the police they have threatened you and you want a temporary restraining order, then the police have to make them leave.
when the hearing comes, you just say the matter has been resolved, which it has because you got them out of your house.
change the locks on your door
if they try to return just dont let them in.
 

Galactic

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Just make sure you go last and that you have a couple dozen trash bags and a hack saw near by.

Problem solved. ;)

You'll need a tub and some lime wouldn't hurt either. A deserted spot to bury the....well, you get my drift. Make sure your cleaning skills are up to par. I mean REALLY up to par. They can find one hair dude, and you're fucked.

A truck to dispose of the trash bags.....easier to run it through a car wash at the end of the night. You don't want those bags sloshing around behind your seat as you drive them to their resting place. The bed is perfect for the transport. Plastic liner for a quick rinse and scrub.

Just sayin'.
 

Supafly

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ziggous, read this post and trust me.
i have been in this situation before

do you have a legal contract with these people?
are they on the lease?

if not they are guests in your house and the police must remove them.
and if they don't, then lie.
tell the police they have threatened you and you want a temporary restraining order, then the police have to make them leave.
when the hearing comes, you just say the matter has been resolved, which it has because you got them out of your house.
change the locks on your door
if they try to return just dont let them in.

Thank you, I was about to write pretty much the same.

And do check with the locksmith beforehand, so he is instantly over when they are out the door.

My sympathy, your home should be your castle, not the hangout for people who trouble you
 

meesterperfect

Hiliary 2020
Thank you, I was about to write pretty much the same.

And do check with the locksmith beforehand, so he is instantly over when they are out the door.

My sympathy, your home should be your castle, not the hangout for people who trouble you

thank you supa.
if he can't get help from the police then he's gotta play the system and make them help him.
that's when the restraining order part must come in.
it apllies because they have lived together, so he can get a restraining order, once the police hear that request their hands are tied, they must act on it.
simple as " they said they'll kick my ass".

hopefully it won't come to that, but it looks like it already has.
 

Supafly

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@Ziggous:

PLease tell us which state you live in, so we can see if we can find info on the legal situation.

Yet, meesters' plan is the best way to get them out, as it seems to me your self-proclaimed friiends are far from being that. Friends to not harass friends and ry to leech them. Friends leave each other alone when asked to do so.

Do not feel bad about stepping up to the plate and get the police to take them out.

Another advice: Do not warn them. Leeches can get tricky when they feel their host tries to shake them.

Call the police from outdoors and when they ask why you did that, here comes the explanation: They said they would team up on you. Strengthens your case.
 
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