Will E Worm
Conspiracy...
Translation a brainwashed liberal, that cannot think for themselves. :hatsoff:
You never challenge me. Remember you said you never take anything seriously. :tongue:
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Senator McCain: Of course Palin can beat Obama
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Translation a brainwashed liberal, that cannot think for themselves. :hatsoff:
You never challenge me. Remember you said you never take anything seriously. :tongue:
Ulysses31
I'm too lazy to set a usertitle.
Philadelphia it is then!: Sarah Palin's 'magical mystery' tour bus stops before moving on to New York
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-thats-left-followers-dark.html#ixzz1NxrAVzCs
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-thats-left-followers-dark.html#ixzz1NxrAVzCs
lurkingdirk
I'm too lazy to set a usertitle.
I have asked you questions you have never answered because you don't have the information at hand, or you'd have to admit the information you have is actually not reliable. Here, for instance:
You never answered that, except to say illegals should be deported. How about you take a stab at answering? Use legitimate, documented sources. Use respectable, widely published authors or news sources.
When it comes down to it, when you get backed into a corner, your response is always the same:
:tongue:
Keep using that response, Will. It betrays how widely read you are, how carefully you research things before stating an absolute opinion, and how open minded you are.
Will E Worm
Conspiracy...
Translation sources from brainwashed liberals, that cannot think for themselves.
They are the controlled media. They are not respectable and lie.
The videos I just used were Obama in his own words.
He's a liar and should have never been in any political position.
lurkingdirk
I'm too lazy to set a usertitle.
No, Will. Use sources that are legitimate. Sources proved by time and publication. Don't use conspiracy theory youtube videos.
Also, thanks for dodging the question again. You continue to satisfy. You are certainly not lacking in consistency.
Will E Worm
Conspiracy...
:1orglaugh Facts you just don't like them.
lurkingdirk
I'm too lazy to set a usertitle.
No, actually. I'm very open to just about anything, though you don't seem to think so. Also, I'm not an Obama fan, so let's just get that out of the way. Nor am I a Democrat.
Your facts are lacking, and provably false. THAT is where I have an issue.
And, you still haven't answered the question I asked several days ago and reposted above. What's the matter? Do you not have a handy youtube video that explains it away?
Will E Worm
Conspiracy...
lurkingdirk
I'm too lazy to set a usertitle.
:1orglaugh
No.
But okay, enough of this. Make another post to reply to this one, please. I won't reply again, but to be clear, it isn't because you have proved something, it is because I'm choosing to ignore you for now.
You aren't discussing anything. I say one thing, you simply say "no." That's not a discussion or even an argument. That's you being entirely pig-headed, smug, and yet not proving a single thing. I might also point out that you continue to not answer the difficult questions that are asked of you.
I find you hilarious. I can't wait until our next exchange. Perhaps you'll again point out how everyone who breaks any law should be put to death. By the way, do you ever break the speed limit when driving?
PirateKing
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Will E Worm
Conspiracy...
Yes. I agree, enough of your liberal lies.
You aren't discussing anything and you can't prove anything.
I should put you back on ignore. :tongue:
TheOrangeCat
AFK..being taken to the vet to get neutered.
My, what a lively exchange of irrelevant, off topic views!
My (on topic) question (and it arises out of pure bafflement) is how can someone who is a soldier, decorated veteran, ex-POW, highly successful in and out of politics - in other words someone who clearly is neither anyone's bitch, not an idiot, have anything to do with Palin?
She's clearly a liability, she's clearly unqualified for the role, both in terms of her experience and in terms of her ability to unite the GOP and act as it's best hope for a credible presidential candidate.
None of the above is based on my own political views (I don't have any, really, where the US is concerned, other than as my closest neighbor, I'd like it not to be unstable/bankrupt/under the control of (another) puppet of the lunatic neo-Con faction ....
I dunno. :dunno: my only answer to his comments re: Palin is that it's part of some much longer tactical game plan being plan or spun out; maybe a bait and switch. Get Palin far enough down the line to finally scare the shit out of the party complacent and faithful and then come to the rescue as a legitimate candidate or as the sponsor of a new face ...?
My (on topic) question (and it arises out of pure bafflement) is how can someone who is a soldier, decorated veteran, ex-POW, highly successful in and out of politics - in other words someone who clearly is neither anyone's bitch, not an idiot, have anything to do with Palin?
She's clearly a liability, she's clearly unqualified for the role, both in terms of her experience and in terms of her ability to unite the GOP and act as it's best hope for a credible presidential candidate.
None of the above is based on my own political views (I don't have any, really, where the US is concerned, other than as my closest neighbor, I'd like it not to be unstable/bankrupt/under the control of (another) puppet of the lunatic neo-Con faction ....
I dunno. :dunno: my only answer to his comments re: Palin is that it's part of some much longer tactical game plan being plan or spun out; maybe a bait and switch. Get Palin far enough down the line to finally scare the shit out of the party complacent and faithful and then come to the rescue as a legitimate candidate or as the sponsor of a new face ...?
McCain knows that the lunatic fringe that has hijacked the GOP will come for his blood, as they have in the past...even recently, unless he supports the grande dame of idiots and the poorly educated everywhere! I mean come on, it's no secret that Arizona is loon central these days! Funny thing though, Barry Goldwater, the father of the modern conservative movement, as extreme as he was viewed in his day, would be rolling over in his grave if he saw what has become of the GOP!
I guess some people like unqualified, poorly educated, QUITTERS!!!! Just like some fear education and the educated! :dunno:
I guess some people like unqualified, poorly educated, QUITTERS!!!! Just like some fear education and the educated! :dunno:
bodie54
If FreeOnes was a woman, I'd marry her!
What's he supposed to say? He's just being a gentleman and a party loyalist :dunno:
I don't believe for a second he actually thinks she could win.
:1orglaugh
oh please
Didn't know what the Bush Doctrine was but tried to bullshit her way past the question. Couldn't name a supreme court decision other than Roe/Wade. Didn't understand some of the duties of a vice president. Couldn't site any magazines or newspapers she reads regularly. Cited her geographical proximity to Russia as a foreign policy credential. Wrote crib notes on her hand with a magic marker for a televised Q and A session :rofl: I could go on and on, and none of these were Tina Fey creations.
Totally :1orglaugh
But Will and Face continue to cling desperately to this "shocking video" as proof Obama's a Kenyan :1orglaugh
Never mind his birth notices in two 1961 Honolulu newspapers....those were planted by a cabal of communists psychics who knew that 47 years later he would run for president :rofl2:
I don't believe for a second he actually thinks she could win.
:1orglaugh
oh please
Didn't know what the Bush Doctrine was but tried to bullshit her way past the question. Couldn't name a supreme court decision other than Roe/Wade. Didn't understand some of the duties of a vice president. Couldn't site any magazines or newspapers she reads regularly. Cited her geographical proximity to Russia as a foreign policy credential. Wrote crib notes on her hand with a magic marker for a televised Q and A session :rofl: I could go on and on, and none of these were Tina Fey creations.
Totally :1orglaugh
But Will and Face continue to cling desperately to this "shocking video" as proof Obama's a Kenyan :1orglaugh
Never mind his birth notices in two 1961 Honolulu newspapers....those were planted by a cabal of communists psychics who knew that 47 years later he would run for president :rofl2:
Death-Proof-69
I changed my middle-name to Freeones
well he did give the order
so i wouldnt say he had nothing to do with it
so BAM!
had he fucked up and let him go like bush you would be placing all the blame on him like bush
sword cuts two ways friend:tongue:
that's like giving the owner of a high end restaurant the credit for making you a delicious dinner when he was really on vacation in the Bahamas...sure he enabled it to happen but he wasn't the one responsible for that...so that said i do give obama a smidgeon of credit for giving the go-ahead but that's all, to say he killed bin laden is horribly inaccurate, all obama did was get out of the way and allow the operation to proceed, which i will say was a good decision. keep in mind i'm am not knocking obama here, i'm just being realistic and keeping things in order
Ulysses31
I'm too lazy to set a usertitle.
Trump that for a stunt: Palin and 'The Donald' incite a frenzy as they split a pepperoni pizza before astonished tourists in New York's Times Square
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-thats-left-followers-dark.html#ixzz1O0g9ja8i
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Rey C.
Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
Even if Silly Sarah does run and then wins Iowa, I wouldn't put money on the Tea Party Darlin' winning the nomination. Her appeal is to a fairly narrow segment of the GOP. And in the general election (even though she and Donald Trump may think she could win), I think she'd have about the same chance as a declawed house cat in a cage fight with a Rottweiler.
No, can't say that I do.
Just a suggestion, but you might want to hit up the old Google Machine and construct a basic timeline. You know what they say, Facetious: the memory is the first thing to go... and I forget what the second thing is. :dunno:
One by one, his opponents basically self-destructed during the primaries. He began to get donations when the others sputtered out and by the end, he steam rolled it.
If you go back and check, you'll find that McCain wrapped up the GOP nomination well before it was decided whether it would be Clinton or Obama for the Democrats. I like a good conspiracy theory as much as the next person, but they can't be based on 2+2=5.
AFAIK, Soros, and any other liberal donor, was probably fighting to get their pick as the candidate, and not concerned with who the Republicans had... especially since the GOP nomination was all but wrapped up while the Dems were still fighting amongst themselves.
Personally, I was something of a fan of the 1999 version of John McCain. He was not one of these Holy Roller Evangelical types, not a fiscal ideologue (even admitted that he didn't understand economics very well) and had a record for being rather pragmatic and honest with his words... whether they were popular or followed the party line or not. So I was still open minded about him in early 2008. But when he picked Palin, I realized that he had taken a bow to the ESTABLISHMENT, Karl Rove and "The Base". The same forces that had destroyed him in 1999-2000 with lies and innuendo, he was now a puppet to.
Even when I don't agree with everything they say or believe, I appreciate independent thinkers - which is why I respect Ron Paul. I don't have much use for sheep.That's OK. I understood you very well. Headed to the field, eh? Well, as Sgt. Phil Esterhaus used to say: "Let's be careful out there."
But before you go back to the field, an honest, straight up question for you: if not McCain, who do you think should have won the GOP nomination in 2008... and why would that person have had any more of a chance than McCain/Palin? If you pick a social conservative, whose only economic message was "all we need to do is dee-regulate and cut taxes... and all will be well"... do you really think the American people would have bought that one (again)?
I've never been a member of either political party. But I find the current situation with the GOP particularly sad, if not disturbing. Anyone who refuses to drink the Kool-Aid risks being called a RINO. When a party is made up of "yes men" (and women)... I don't know, but I've been in a room filed with sycophants before, and I had to take TWO showers to get the stench off me when I got back to the hotel. So IMO, the GOP seems to be relying on the herd mentality... and that ain't good.
bodie54
If FreeOnes was a woman, I'd marry her!
He was also the logical and strategic choice. The GOP needed to distance itself from its neocons to have any chance at all. McCain was the guy. Had he chosen a viable VP candidate he just might possibly have been elected.
I understand your line of thinking but I don't agree.
Who catches eternal hell if the mission goes tits up?
Who's political career is destroyed?
Who bears the ultimate responsibility?
As the CIC he has to make the call, and there was a ton resting on that decision, for him individually, for the troops engaged, for the nation, and the world: for better or worse, "The buck stops here".
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