Namreg
Banned
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8089102.stm
i think this is good news. now someone who represents the interests of the people instead of just the large corporations has a seat. what a novel concept in a democracy...
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Swedish pirates capture EU seat
- Thread starter Namreg
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8089102.stm
i think this is good news. now someone who represents the interests of the people instead of just the large corporations has a seat. what a novel concept in a democracy...
Neutron66
I need to clean my screen!
"In April, a court in Sweden sentenced the four men behind The Pirate Bay, the world's most high-profile file-sharing website, to a year in jail and ordered them to pay $4.5m (£3m) in damages."
"According to the Los Angeles Times, The Pirate Bay is "one of the world's largest facilitators of illegal downloading", and "the most visible member of a burgeoning international anti-copyright—or pro-piracy—movement"."
You were saying?
"According to the Los Angeles Times, The Pirate Bay is "one of the world's largest facilitators of illegal downloading", and "the most visible member of a burgeoning international anti-copyright—or pro-piracy—movement"."
You were saying?
gunslingingbird
I'm too lazy to set a usertitle.
Well, at least it's Swedish pirates, and not Somalian pirates. :1orglaugh
Friday on my mind
Pain heals, chicks dig scars, Freeones lasts forever
But their party does center around the issue of piracy and downloading correct?
Let me up front say I have never illegally downloaded a song but I have downloaded some porn which was pirated I'm sure.But lets not get bogged down by what we have individually done or not and focus on the isuue of pirated copyrighted material.
Pirating is a form of theft IMO.It's not the corporation I am speaking of first and foremost but the individual or group that created the product you are getting free without any consideration for them.
While I do not associate myself generally with Ayn Rands ideals I do subscribe to ones like no individual owes almost anything to anyone and no one has a right to take without agreed compensation anything someone else creates.No I don't see things like taxes as taking something without consent.Taxes are the price you pay for living in the society/country you are in.Don't want to pay them go somewhere else.
No what we are taliking about mostly here is creative product stolen from an individual.
As Howard Roark said in "The Fountainhead"
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0041386/quotes
"My ideas are my property. They were taken from me by force, by breach of contract. No appeal was left to me. It was believed that my work belonged to others, to do with as they pleased. They had a claim upon me without my consent. That is was my duty to serve them without choice or reward. Now you know why I dynamited Cortlandt. I designed Cortlandt, I made it possible, I destroyed it. I agreed to design it for the purpose of seeing it built as I wished. That was the price I set for my work. I was not paid."
The Fountainhead - Howard Roark Speech (Ayn Rand)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc7oZ9yWqO4
5:53
Rock stars blowing up your house might stop piracy.
Let me up front say I have never illegally downloaded a song but I have downloaded some porn which was pirated I'm sure.But lets not get bogged down by what we have individually done or not and focus on the isuue of pirated copyrighted material.
Pirating is a form of theft IMO.It's not the corporation I am speaking of first and foremost but the individual or group that created the product you are getting free without any consideration for them.
While I do not associate myself generally with Ayn Rands ideals I do subscribe to ones like no individual owes almost anything to anyone and no one has a right to take without agreed compensation anything someone else creates.No I don't see things like taxes as taking something without consent.Taxes are the price you pay for living in the society/country you are in.Don't want to pay them go somewhere else.
No what we are taliking about mostly here is creative product stolen from an individual.
As Howard Roark said in "The Fountainhead"
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0041386/quotes
"My ideas are my property. They were taken from me by force, by breach of contract. No appeal was left to me. It was believed that my work belonged to others, to do with as they pleased. They had a claim upon me without my consent. That is was my duty to serve them without choice or reward. Now you know why I dynamited Cortlandt. I designed Cortlandt, I made it possible, I destroyed it. I agreed to design it for the purpose of seeing it built as I wished. That was the price I set for my work. I was not paid."
The Fountainhead - Howard Roark Speech (Ayn Rand)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc7oZ9yWqO4
5:53
Rock stars blowing up your house might stop piracy.
Namreg
Banned
i believe that piracy is theft as well, but large corporations have been - and continue - abusing copyright laws for years now.
the pirate party does not advocate piracy as such, it wants to rewrite copyright laws and patent law so that it becomes fairer to the general population, and i think that it's good to have a discussion about this instead of the current "we know it's illegal but all do it anyway" thing.
the pirate party does not advocate piracy as such, it wants to rewrite copyright laws and patent law so that it becomes fairer to the general population, and i think that it's good to have a discussion about this instead of the current "we know it's illegal but all do it anyway" thing.
Shindekudasai
If I had a my Freeones account, I would have just gotten 25 points!
I don't know, how the legal situation in the US is, but I gotta say, it's kinda ridiculous in a lot of European countries. I'm not surprised that this party actually won some seats in the election.
I mean, in Germany for example, hardly anyone even knows how the legal situation is exactly, because it changes constantly. I for example collect DVDs. Consequently I have a lot of collector's editions or limited editions, which I don't like to lend out. Because, let's be frank, half the time you get them back with scratches on the casing or bent booklets and sometimes you don't even get them back at all. But I can't even make a copy of the DVD to lend to my buddies, because it's illegal.
I mean, in Germany for example, hardly anyone even knows how the legal situation is exactly, because it changes constantly. I for example collect DVDs. Consequently I have a lot of collector's editions or limited editions, which I don't like to lend out. Because, let's be frank, half the time you get them back with scratches on the casing or bent booklets and sometimes you don't even get them back at all. But I can't even make a copy of the DVD to lend to my buddies, because it's illegal.
max0rz
I'm having an orgasm!
lol, at least this will kinda take the edge off these unforunate results.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090607/ap_on_re_eu/european_elections_11
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090607/ap_on_re_eu/european_elections_11
Skyraider22
The One and Only Big Daddy
Well they won a seat that is good but is that the only thing there party is based off of:dunno:
Shindekudasai
If I had a my Freeones account, I would have just gotten 25 points!
Well, I'd say you can take at least half of this article to the crapper and wipe your arse with it.
While reading this article it becomes very clear, that the writers don't even know the difference between "Socialists" and "Social Democrats". Well, it's an easy mistake considering that for example the American political spectrum doesn't even know the difference.
1.) The German Social Democrats are like a combination of the left wing and the moderates of the American Democrats and the left wing of the Republicans. They stand for civil liberties (like freedom of speech and assembly) and social market economy. To say that they are a socialist party is just flat out wrong. And while the Social Democrats have lost (one seat!), they are still the second largest force amongst the German partys.
2.) Merkel's conservative CDU (could be compared to the moderate Republicans) may have gained the most votes, but they, too, lost a few seats in comparison to the last elections.
3.) The biggest "losers" of this election are the Repulicans and the NPD (Germany's right wing party, which can be compared to the far right wing of the American Republicans). They didn't even get a single seat, which means on top of being no longer in the Bundestag they are now no longer in the European parliament as well.
4.) The Green Party (not quite as left wing as the US' Green Party) has one more seat than before.
5.) The Free Democrats (a liberal party, kind of a mixture between the right wing Democrats and the moderate Republicans) gained even four more seats.
6.) And the biggest winners are "Die Linke" ("The Left"), Germany's left wing party, which really is damn near socialist. They gained eight seats.
So anyone telling you, that the right wing won this election in Germany has absolutely no idea, what they are talking about. The big winners are the three small parties (Green Party, Free Democrats and The Left), of which one represents the left end of the middle, one the right end of the middle and one the far left.
afkallthetiem
Banned
wow more criminals in the government, come on in youll fit right in
