tartanterrier
Is somewhere outhere.
Hmm, dying in Scotland or Libya, which is worse? I can't decide.
If you had to pick one,where would it be???
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If you had to pick one,where would it be???
If you had to pick one,where would it be???
How about on the plane before we touch down on either nations soil? :1orglaugh
Carecrow
Myth 1: Men want sex more than women
Not sure where I stand on the idea of release on compassionate grounds. It kind of undermines the decision that was made about the length of the sentence. For the sake of argument let's say someone was given a 25 year sentence and then, after serving 6 months, was diagnosed with cancer. Would they be let out on compassionate grounds? If not, how is it different? Is it an age thing? or is it the amount of time served relative to the sentence? where's the line?
titsrock
I'm too lazy to set a usertitle.
Humanity to a mass murderer?
Please get of your high horse.
This guy should have been put to death on television for the world to see.
None of what you write conform to Christian thinking WillE. Why are you wanting to tell other countries what to do? You are usually the first person to tell others to "BUTT OUT" of American affairs. :dunno:
Televised deaths---hmm...that sounds like a 3rd Reich concept. Yes, I realize public deaths were the norm in Middle Ages and through the 1600s, but, times have changed.
Humanity has evolved under a path of Reason.
If acts of brutality occur in the Middle East today, and we want "them" to "change," then why should we resort to similar brutality? Isn't that a hypocrisy that would be impossible to overlook?
Namreg
Banned
horses are hung, humans are hanged.
as far as this case goes:
the trial was widely criticised, by the UN observer as well as by lord fraser, who drew up the initial arrest warrant.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Am_Flight_103_bombing_trial#Remarks_by_Lord_Fraser
i'm not saying this guy's innocent, but i do think that there are things here that we don't (and maybe never will) know about. maybe those things had an influence on the decision to release this guy; maybe a retrial would have been embarrassing for the UK/US, and so they preferred to let him go. maybe.
titsrock
I'm too lazy to set a usertitle.
There doesn't seem to be much of a difference in the hypothetical you've described. HOWEVER, a distinction can be made if a "Political Statement" can be made. This Lockerbie criminal basically has "political usefulness" for Scotland and Great Britain.
Namreg
Banned
christian thinking?
a) this is the 21st century. i sincerely hope such superstitions are now passe
b) have you ever read the bible? one of the most vile, violent, judgmental and perverse things ever committed to paper. their "god" killed all of humanity, except for some guy on a boat, told another guy to kill his son as proof of loyalty, put original sin on christians because yet another dude ate an apple given to him by a talking snake...
habo9
Banned
Youve watched Penn & tellers Bullshit!! about the bible , havent you? :thumbsup:
Carecrow
Myth 1: Men want sex more than women
Yeah, true it's all a game of chess really, 'compassionate' is a word that disguises a lot of other intentions in the context of the judicial system. This story is a bit of a coincidence though coming so closely to Ronnie Biggs' release (another high profile compassionate release). A month earlier Biggs had been denied parole.
habo9
Banned
Hmm, dying in Scotland or Libya, which is worse? I can't decide.
It could be worse he could have died flying over England :1orglaugh
ChefChiTown
The secret ingredient? MY BALLS
Whether he is responsible for the crimes he was found to be guilty of or not, he got LIFE IN PRISON, so he should be spending his LIFE IN PRISON. The sentence of "life in prison" is just another way of saying "you're going to be in prison until the day that you day", so when someone gets sentenced to life in prison, but gets released due to an illness, then the court is failing to live up to it's decision. It's fucking ridiculous that an illness, even cancer, can get someone out of their punishment - especially when their punishment is to die in prison. What a failure for the justice system, no matter what country this happened in.
mrtrebus
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To die looking down over the green & pleasant land of England? What a beautiful last image to see. The only downside being that heaven would be a dissapointment! :hatsoff:
Hot Mega
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Well...let's hope in exchange for someone on their death bed, Libya makes good on their pledge of more cooperation.
If so, it would be a worthy exchange.
This to me is nowhere near as bad as Canada or France refusing to extradite murders because we may subject them to the death penalty.
So because they don't like the type of punishment a murderer may be subjected to they allow the fucker to escape any punishment.
If so, it would be a worthy exchange.
This to me is nowhere near as bad as Canada or France refusing to extradite murders because we may subject them to the death penalty.
So because they don't like the type of punishment a murderer may be subjected to they allow the fucker to escape any punishment.
titsrock
I'm too lazy to set a usertitle.
Christian thinking -- "turn the other cheek," "the Golden Rule," and Christ's public execution was not meant to be used as a "template" but a learning experience...:dunno:
America, whether we like it or not, is a heavily-influenced Christian nation. I realize this is not an American issue, but my comments were meant to question WillE's bloodthirst....
Namreg
Banned
no, i can't stand penn&teller. i have, however, read the bible. i grew up roman catholic, but i am no longer blind.
habo9
Banned
Ok Sheffield , Bradford & Birmingham hes not gonny be happy looking down on that & many more , even I would be happier if Lucifer came and got me the hell out of there
Thanks Satan
titsrock
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You mean Catholics over in the UK read the Bible? Over here...they do not. Over here, the Priest tells the laity what they need to know and think, basically...
habo9
Banned
Funny that cause thats more or less what he says at the start of that , word for word :rofl:
Namreg
Banned
i'm german, and over there it's the same... they tell you what to believe, and that is that. but as soon as you ask yourself the first question you know that this whole religion thing cannot make any sense. whoever/whatever created us, he gave us a brain. thank jebus
now as for the original post:
wasn't train robber ronnie biggs released from a UK jail under similar circumstances?
i know, killing 270 people is different from robbing a train, but if they honestly believe that he has less than 3 months to live then i can see why they let him go. that does not justify gaddafi treating him like a hero though. releasing him to a hospital with police supervision would perhaps have been better than to let him go home and be celebrated.
also interesting is this, from the aforementioned wikipedia article:
so witnesses in a criminal trial MAY NOT tell the court what they know? then why appear at all?
now as for the original post:
that is from the same wikipedia article i linked to on the previous page.
wasn't train robber ronnie biggs released from a UK jail under similar circumstances?
i know, killing 270 people is different from robbing a train, but if they honestly believe that he has less than 3 months to live then i can see why they let him go. that does not justify gaddafi treating him like a hero though. releasing him to a hospital with police supervision would perhaps have been better than to let him go home and be celebrated.
also interesting is this, from the aforementioned wikipedia article:
so witnesses in a criminal trial MAY NOT tell the court what they know? then why appear at all?
Will E Worm
Conspiracy...
Penn and Teller are the ones full of...:tongue:
Two burnt out old guys who barely have any brain cells left.
They are two sold out puppets.
