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The Official 2008/2009 NCAA Football Thread

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titsrock

I'm too lazy to set a usertitle.
Someone has to step up and put some money on the Irish....32 points now??? C'mon Charlie...can you put 13 points on the scoreboard? I'm not sure SC has the firepower to go over 40 on the irish. Sanchez and the WRs are kind of mediocre this season.
 

ArabJames

Will strip for money!
I think there should be a playoff system....in which the top 8 teams in the BCS play each other...
1 vs 8
2 vs 7
etc....

until there is a champion

they way its going to shape up this year...if oregon state holds on to Pac 10 title
Rose Bowl --> Penn State v. Oregon State
Orange Bowl --> Cincinnati v. Georgia Tech
Fiesta Bowl --> Texas v. Utah
Sugar Bowl --> Alabama v. USC
Title Game --> Florida v. Oklahoma

If Oregon State loses Pac 10
Rose Bowl --> Penn State v. USC
Orange Bowl --> Cincinnati v. Georgia Tech
Fiesta Bowl --> Ohio State v. Utah
Sugar Bowl --> Alabama v. Texas
Title Game --> Florida v. Oklahoma
 

Skyraider22

The One and Only Big Daddy
:rolleyes:You know how the Missouri-Kansas game is I think Mizz will pull it out I'm waiting to see how bad USC wikk take it to ND who knows it might be close So is anyone going to watch the Tennessee-Kentucky game Fulmer's going away party any picks I got Kentucky.
 
You make a very good argument here. Dirk Koetter was a flop because--well--I don't know. The scum devils never had a "creative" offense under Koetter. He should've been able to recruit well at ASU--although Koetter had to battle USC and Cal (who rose up from obscurity to Pac10 prominence) during this timeperiod. The Scum Devils never had a defense under Koetter either. The broader point is that ASU made a panic hire for Dennis Erickson and he hasn't factored into anything. Pete Carroll has established a RECRUITING BEHEMOTH which all other Pac10 schools (Cal being the only exception, imo) haven't been able to overcome. All other Pac10 schools lose recruiting battles with SC now. They have a smaller pool of talent to fight over and they have to look in places for talent where they never had to look for before.

Dan Hawkins's situation is very problematic. I thought he would bring the "creativity" to Colorado and it's taken A LOT LONGER to "turn them" into a Boise State style team (with much better talent.) Since he lost to Nebraska yesterday, he might not survive there. CU fans have to start to be getting impatient. Next year's probably a "make or break" year for him and it's hard for a coach to do something during a year like that (Fulmer, Ty Willingham, Tommy Bowden couldn't do it...)

I guess my only response for UDub hiring Chris Peterson is that they have to atleast give it a shot. Who else is there? They could TRY to poach Jim Harbaugh from Stanford if they wanted to. USC poached Larry Smith from Arizona once and ASU poached Bruce Snyder from Cal once....but Pac10 poaching probably will never happen again.

I would rather try to go with Chris Peterson over some NFL coach/assistant. I think the NFL --to--college transistion is more dubious (Pete Caroll being the exception.)

Or, if UDub wants to stick with "traditional" UDub Football--big Defense/Smashmouth offense with a little option attack...than maybe hire Pat Hill of Fresno State(?) I don't think that's a realistic option....
They could, but personally I'm not in favor of it, mostly because Jim Harbaugh is a former Michigan Wolverine, and I HATE the Wolverwienies and I'd hate to see any Husky football success attributed to the work of a Wolverwienie. More to the point - I believe that there's a clause in Jim Harbaugh's current contract that states that he IS NOT allowed to seek employment, at least not as a HEAD coach, at another Pac-10 school, at least not for a period of time. As for Pat Hill - maybe he could use a change of scenery 'cause right now the undisputed "King of the WAC" is Boise State as that 10 - 61 loss that Pat Hill's team suffered against Boise State seems to indicate. A few years ago I might have welcomed Pat Hill on Montlake...now I'm not so sure. I don't know who's gonna wanna coach the trainwreck that currently is Husky football - the more I see of supposed contenders for the position fall by the wayside for various reasons, the less it's looking like the "marquee" job that some people feel it is, or at least that it used to be.
 
Out-of-Conference scheduling is basically a crapshoot though. MOST teams try to line up cupcakes for their out-of-conference. It just so happens that Cincy and TCU had big years this year. When Okie signed them up to play, Cincy Football was circling the drain and TCU probably had just watched Dennis Franchione bail out of there for Bama....

There should be some sort of incentive for teams to try to lineup decent OOC matchups but it is hard to use OOC strength to overcome a direct head-to-head loss.

Okie lost to Texas. There isn't much of a way for them to get by that fact unless Mizzou blows out Texas in the Big12 Conf Championship Game? Wouldn't that be the scenario that sends Okie to the BCS championship game? Mizzou wouldn't attain a top ranking to justify their inclusion even if they upset Texas. Texas Tech got destroyed badly by Okie. No one wants to see the Red Raiders in the BCS Champ Game....
As I stated in my earlier post, what I put the most weight on, at least in this case, is the head-to-head result. That and that I just feel that, as good as Oklahoma has looked the last few weeks, overall Texas' team is just a little better. If it comes down to a vote to see which team from the Big XII South goes to the Big XII championship game, I guess we're gonna find out which of those factors means more to the people who would be voting.
 
Meanwhile Kansas is punking Missouri at Missouri. So much for the Big 12north "champs" being worth a shit.
Well, that site is actually considered to be a "neutral" site since Missouri's campus is actually in Columbia. To be fair, aside from the rivalry itself, Missouri had little to play for today. They'd already clinched the Big XII North, as you noted. They aren't in contention for the national championship. And there is the little matter of a revenge factor for Kansas since Missouri ended Kansas' unbeaten season last year in that game and ruined whatever chances the Jayhawks may have had for playing in the national championship game this last January. Having typed all that, as good as the Tigers are, they are, in my opinion, no better than the fifth best team in the Big XII, overall, this season, so I guess I'm not all that surprised that the Jayhawks beat them, even though the Jayhawks went into that game not looking all that impressive, themselves.
 
:rolleyes:You know how the Missouri-Kansas game is I think Mizz will pull it out I'm waiting to see how bad USC wikk take it to ND who knows it might be close So is anyone going to watch the Tennessee-Kentucky game Fulmer's going away party any picks I got Kentucky.
Based on the season as a whole, USC should absolutely DESTROY the Irish today (today ND is the biggest underdog it has EVER been, either in the history of the USC vs. ND rivalry, or PERIOD). Of course, Lou Holtz thinks that the Irish will "wake up the echoes" and beat USC today (or at least keep the game close) but he's somewhat biased in favor of the Irish, having coached them for over a decade. I'm actually a Notre Dame football fan (though I'm not one of these people who believes that every player who puts the Notre Dame football uniform on is a future NFL Hall of Famer), but I really don't see how they're going to even stay in the game with the Trojans today, let alone beat them. I think Lee Corso predicted that USC will win today's game 46 - 6 and I think Mark May predicted that Notre Dame won't even score today. I think the Irish will try to pick themselves up after last Saturday's humiliating loss to Syracuse in South Bend last Saturday, but even if they do it won't be enough. USC will win today on their way to a ROMP over sorry UCLA next Saturday, an 11 - 1 final regular season record, and very likely one of the BCS bowls, if not the Rose.
 
You make a very good argument here. Dirk Koetter was a flop because--well--I don't know. The scum devils never had a "creative" offense under Koetter. He should've been able to recruit well at ASU--although Koetter had to battle USC and Cal (who rose up from obscurity to Pac10 prominence) during this timeperiod. The Scum Devils never had a defense under Koetter either. The broader point is that ASU made a panic hire for Dennis Erickson and he hasn't factored into anything. Pete Carroll has established a RECRUITING BEHEMOTH which all other Pac10 schools (Cal being the only exception, imo) haven't been able to overcome. All other Pac10 schools lose recruiting battles with SC now. They have a smaller pool of talent to fight over and they have to look in places for talent where they never had to look for before.

Dan Hawkins's situation is very problematic. I thought he would bring the "creativity" to Colorado and it's taken A LOT LONGER to "turn them" into a Boise State style team (with much better talent.) Since he lost to Nebraska yesterday, he might not survive there. CU fans have to start to be getting impatient. Next year's probably a "make or break" year for him and it's hard for a coach to do something during a year like that (Fulmer, Ty Willingham, Tommy Bowden couldn't do it...)

I guess my only response for UDub hiring Chris Peterson is that they have to atleast give it a shot. Who else is there? They could TRY to poach Jim Harbaugh from Stanford if they wanted to. USC poached Larry Smith from Arizona once and ASU poached Bruce Snyder from Cal once....but Pac10 poaching probably will never happen again.

I would rather try to go with Chris Peterson over some NFL coach/assistant. I think the NFL --to--college transistion is more dubious (Pete Caroll being the exception.)

Or, if UDub wants to stick with "traditional" UDub Football--big Defense/Smashmouth offense with a little option attack...than maybe hire Pat Hill of Fresno State(?) I don't think that's a realistic option....
I can tell you why I think Dirk Koetter didn't and Dan Hawkins hasn't done as well at ASU and CU, respectively, as they did at Boise State. It's as what Lee Corso often states on "College Gameday" - (I'm not sure about the % but I think his point is well made) 80% of games are won by the coach with the more talented players. Over the last decade, or so, Boise State has appeared to amass more talent in football than its WAC counterparts. Arizona State has good players, but it is NOT head-and-shoulders above the rest of the Pac-10 in talent the way Boise State appears to be in the WAC. Same thing for Dan Hawkins at Colorado. My point? That since the Boise State Broncos appear to have that much more talent than most, if not all, of their foes in the WAC, people assume that Boise State head football coaches are better than they actually are. In other words, when confronted with teams that have as much as or more talent than their teams do, those ex-Boise State coaches were found to be "mere mortals" when it came to coaching. My suspicion is that if Chris Petersen ever goes to a "BCS" conference team, the same thing will be found out about him (don't forget that Boise State lost to the Washington Huskies last year, the same Washington Huskies who ended up 4 - 9 and in last place in the Pac-10).
 
I don't want to get ahead of myself, here, but Florida just went up 28 - 9 on FSU with less than a minute left in the first half. It's never over 'til it's over, especially in a rivalry game, but right now it's looking less and less likely that the 'noles are going pull the upset over the Gators today (darn it!!).
 

Skyraider22

The One and Only Big Daddy
Anyone watching the Alabama-Auburn game it looks likes Bama has taken control of it. Bama play like that against Flordia,the Gators will beat them by 40,it looks like Bama is having trouble scoring but that has been there problem this year at times.
 

Skyraider22

The One and Only Big Daddy
Flordia is way too fast don't get me wrong I like Bama's style of run the football down the middle but they really need to hit Flordia in the mouth when they line up against them next week. I hope it is a great game:glugglug:
 

assholebythedoor

Baconsalt > WTC7
"Fl, just loads up on there right and sends there running back up the middle. auburn should run only one linebacker and and extra linemen. there safety and corners should be able to cover the plays well, the prevent is what is stopping them from winning the game
 
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