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The question for Christians
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bobjustbob
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I'm a Christian but if I wasn't, I'd be tickled pink getting a gift for Christmas. They know that I'm an Athiest and don't give gifts just for Christmas. 8-5 says Athiests agree with me. Vote now.
Would you like to get Christmas gifs if you were an atheist?
I don't believe in religion, but I still celebrate the fuckin holidays!
Philbert
Banned
Or 'cause you're hungry.
I accept gifts to make the giver feel good...I am noble like that. NOT to honor Jesus of Nazereth.
Philbert
Banned
Jack Davenport
I'm too lazy to set a usertitle.
Why not? I celebrate Ramadan for the lamb and hummus.
In reality Christmas has been warped into a marketing and commercialism abomination that much of it has nothing to do with the religious aspect of it. It's marketed to pander to people's greed, and to maximize the profits of businesses.
It's hard to violate the spirit of what Christmas is about any more than the mockery people have already made it. In that sense giving a present to an atheist isn't that much different than giving a present to a Christian.
Anonyne#017
Can I flirt with you?
Is it Santa who brings gifts to you at Xmas? Santa can be considered insult towards actual religious event in itself as completely unrelated "nice" guy, who just happens to visit at same date, brings gifts and diverts away from real meaning of the date. Origin of santa was from none of the countries that most people argue he comes from, he was very strict person who gave lash to naughty children, but was nice for nice children and possibly giving them some simple toys, maybe explains where that one must be nice or no gifts scaring come after all. Scare adults with religion, scare children with Santa. For me Xmas hasn't ever had religious meaning, but it's meaning is more of date where families gather together, forget other things and enjoy the time with each other. Most people do not even realize that they add paganic items even on their Xmas trees, not forgetting how insulting some those items are placed next to their little angel statues.
Most holidays here are based to religious backgrounds, even most swear words are based on religious words. I'm not really religious and most countries who have higher education level than development countries tend to end up with atheists, as believing in god goes against common sense and logic to what schools teach. I haven't really cared for backgrounds of most of the religious holidays for a long time and I'm just happy that I have my free day. Jesus died? Oh, well whatever, good day to try some new drink... Yet, it's interesting enough that those holidays still exists with more and more people leaving churches, which tells how huge effect religions have made.
What about new year? Religious people celebrate new year, which unless I remember wrong, is based on worshipping some roman god for whose honor, month January is named after... Such a paganic rituals you have there... You can say that it's not right for non-religious people to have events which may have been based on some religious events, but in the end religious people aren't doing any better. They just live with their double-standards. How many people can even say they have honestly read whole Bible nowadays? I haven't read it, but apparently Koran is supposed to be interesting reading, but in the end, religions are nothing more than one big circus.
You might also want to take a note that most religions were forced to people. People were scared to death if they didn't join or by other means. Churches are nothing more than another form of control next to kings and more people have been killed for the name of religions than other wars. If people believe in gods, religion shouldn't really matter. They all share same basics, there is some existence who created the world, something good will happen if you live nicely, something bad will happen if you live bad. Main difference is that only words used, names and translations to describe these things change, thus saying believing in "gods" or not fits better. It's pretty much only 1 religion which looks down at each other religion and where belief is that everyone else are infidels who are all trash. I don't really care if people believe in their fantasy storybooks to make themselves look less insignificant or not, but when people come to force their shit on you or buy so called free tickets to the better place, that's just horribly wrong...
I'm just surprised to amount religious threads in porn website, which is such a sinful thing. You can still find salvation and join me to the dark void of nothingness. At least that is better than Hell right? I'd bet most of the religious people go to Hell anyway, since they don't really believe in god, but rather wish there was a god. If people really believed in god, they wouldn't be so sad when people die and there would be much higher amount of mass suicides, since why live alone here when one can join his loved ones to heaven easily enough...
I think therefore I am, our conscious is build in our brains, when that thing ticks off, there will be nothing but void. Live and enjoy your life and let others enjoy theirs... That's pretty much my religious view in short.
Most holidays here are based to religious backgrounds, even most swear words are based on religious words. I'm not really religious and most countries who have higher education level than development countries tend to end up with atheists, as believing in god goes against common sense and logic to what schools teach. I haven't really cared for backgrounds of most of the religious holidays for a long time and I'm just happy that I have my free day. Jesus died? Oh, well whatever, good day to try some new drink... Yet, it's interesting enough that those holidays still exists with more and more people leaving churches, which tells how huge effect religions have made.
What about new year? Religious people celebrate new year, which unless I remember wrong, is based on worshipping some roman god for whose honor, month January is named after... Such a paganic rituals you have there... You can say that it's not right for non-religious people to have events which may have been based on some religious events, but in the end religious people aren't doing any better. They just live with their double-standards. How many people can even say they have honestly read whole Bible nowadays? I haven't read it, but apparently Koran is supposed to be interesting reading, but in the end, religions are nothing more than one big circus.
You might also want to take a note that most religions were forced to people. People were scared to death if they didn't join or by other means. Churches are nothing more than another form of control next to kings and more people have been killed for the name of religions than other wars. If people believe in gods, religion shouldn't really matter. They all share same basics, there is some existence who created the world, something good will happen if you live nicely, something bad will happen if you live bad. Main difference is that only words used, names and translations to describe these things change, thus saying believing in "gods" or not fits better. It's pretty much only 1 religion which looks down at each other religion and where belief is that everyone else are infidels who are all trash. I don't really care if people believe in their fantasy storybooks to make themselves look less insignificant or not, but when people come to force their shit on you or buy so called free tickets to the better place, that's just horribly wrong...
I'm just surprised to amount religious threads in porn website, which is such a sinful thing. You can still find salvation and join me to the dark void of nothingness. At least that is better than Hell right? I'd bet most of the religious people go to Hell anyway, since they don't really believe in god, but rather wish there was a god. If people really believed in god, they wouldn't be so sad when people die and there would be much higher amount of mass suicides, since why live alone here when one can join his loved ones to heaven easily enough...
I think therefore I am, our conscious is build in our brains, when that thing ticks off, there will be nothing but void. Live and enjoy your life and let others enjoy theirs... That's pretty much my religious view in short.
Philbert
Banned
Who are you talking to?
Did you take a left turn at Albuquerque?
This thread is about "Would you like to get Christmas gifs if you were an atheist?", not another of the many tedious threads from Mariah on why God has let her down.
There are so many other religious threads in the Politics and RELIGION section, could you leave just one a bit light and less than serious?
Just have a little fun?
Go have some Humus and lamb, play with a dradel, give a funny .gif to an atheist.
Then go post in any one of several tedious and endlessly repetitious threads on how God doesn't really love you, and why.
I started reading Reza Aslan's Zealot
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Pope says "who am i to judge"
The Blindness of Religion Part II.
Fuck all of you fucking fuckers in here who REFUSE TO BELIEVE that Islam is out to kill us all.
Fuck every one of you fucking fuckers in here who support abortion
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Atheist
I'm sure people care how you feel, I'm just sayin'...:dunno:
Rattrap
Doesn't feed trolls and would appreciate it if you
Good stuff. Holidays can mean whatever people want them to mean. It's no different than what the Abrahamic religions did to pagan holidays, assimilating them into their religion to make converting people easier - before it was Christmas, people simply had winter festivals:
- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas
I agree with Anon here; holidays are an excuse to get the family together. Any more meaning you want to attach to it is up to individual choice, regardless of the holiday's origins.
It's not any different.
But I agree on the overall point - pretty much all of the holidays have been warped by consumerism. But with capitalism that's inevitable. At least in the States Christmas can't begin until after Thanksgiving - here in Europe, Christmas stuff appears in stores basically right after if not before Halloween (which isn't as big a thing here anyway). So, assari, to answer your question: Christmas gifts contrary to the name have little to do with being Christian.
assari
God damn it, Baconsalt!
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Right.
True and it is sad that this celebrition is ruined.
Jesus was not materialist and the message of Christmas is not a pile of unnecessary goods.
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Right.
True and it is sad that this celebrition is ruined.
Jesus was not materialist and the message of Christmas is not a pile of unnecessary goods.
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Right.
True and it is sad that this celebrition is ruined.
Jesus was not materialist and the message of Christmas is not a pile of unnecessary goods.
I celebrate the customs as I no longer follow religion. My Christmas gift is getting FUCKED really hard!
Elwood70
Torn & Frayed.
Yes it was.
And no, Jesus wasn't born on Dec. 25, but one of the coolest people to walk the planet was:
10 Famous People born on December 25
Elwood70
Torn & Frayed.
Yes, I'm referring to Karl Rove.
I couldn't possibly be referring to Humphrey Bogart or Jimmy Buffet....
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