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We The People Stimulus Package

calpoon

Yes, I bribed and cheated to get this far

calpoon

Yes, I bribed and cheated to get this far
I think it's you who needs to wake up and stop pandering to these jingoists. The American working class has way more in common with immigrants than they do with politicians and wall street. And now the chickens are coming home to roost.

I hate to break it to you but it wasn't 2009 when the US became a corporate welfare state... more like 1849.
 

Boothbabe

I eat, sleep, and live FreeOnes!
This thread reminds me of the movie Nixon by Oliver Stone. There's one scene were Nixon (played by Anthony Hopkins) visits the Lincoln memorial @ night. There's a group of students sleeping there who are protesting against the war, they wake up and Nixon talks with them. A female students asks him why he doesn't stop the war in Vietnam. Nixon says the system won't let him but he thinks he can control it enough to make it do some good. The female student says "You make it sound like it's an uncontrolled wild animal" to wich Nixon replies "Yeah, well maybe I am".
 

meesterperfect

Hiliary 2020
Basically what I've been saying.
Tax revolt.

Stimulus package is another word for reparations.
Take from the working give to the lazy.

If they really, sincerly wanted stimulate the economy they would have simply given the working a 1 year tax exemption.
Let the people who earned it keep it.
No red tape, no thousand page document, just no FED tax for 1 year.
Then you would have seen some real stimulus
 

D-rock

I'm too lazy to set a usertitle.
Basically what I've been saying.
Tax revolt.

Stimulus package is another word for reparations.
Take from the working give to the lazy.

If they really, sincerly wanted stimulate the economy they would have simply given the working a 1 year tax exemption.
Let the people who earned it keep it.
No red tape, no thousand page document, just no FED tax for 1 year.
Then you would have seen some real stimulus

Except the whole tax breaks things just doesn’t work like people like you think they do in improving the economy. You're economic reasoning just doesn't coincide with reality. The last 40 or so years should be proof of it. You would think all this time since at least the 70s and 80s people would have learned that by now. Of course if people's economic ideology keeps them from having learned this at this point, it's pretty much hopeless. Not to mention the government would plain shut down, and a lot of the people would just pocket it, especially the rich, or spend it in disproportionate areas than is what is needed.
 

Friday on my mind

Pain heals, chicks dig scars, Freeones lasts forever
Tax breaks are not entirely a bad idea if done right.Breaks to people in middle to lower income ranges as they could use the money most and would pretty much plow it right back into the economy (spend it here) would be stimulative.

But if your going to give breaks to the buisness/well off then it must be very targeted breaks.Too often in the past buisness/investors got breaks from us and used that money to pay for a new factory somewhere else like El Salvadore,and while I'm not against investments like that entirely we need to get our own house in order before we do more of that.
 

Facetious

Moderated
^ Communism was said to have been cool, if only it had been "implemented properly." :laugh:



Re: We The People Stimulus Package:

• Did I ever hear specifically just what it is that the obama admin is "stimulating" ?

• In the video He said : "representative democracy" :confused: Whaaaaat ?
Other than that this guy is COOL !!!!
 

Baill Inneraora

I changed my middle-name to Freeones
The stimulus package has kept a lot of people working and kept the entire collapse of Wall Street and the banking from happening.

Money from the stimulus package kept my home State and home City from going bankrupt during this crisis. (And many others)

The stimulus money has created many high paying construction jobs, research positions and education positions. It is investing billions in education.

It also cut taxes for individuals by $237,000,000,000 and companies by $51,000,000,000.

Was it a risk to spend roughly 500 billion and slash taxes by 288 billion? Sure, but it is the only thing that kept our country’s economy from totally collapsing. All this AND MOST THE MONEY IS NOT EVEN SPENT YET!

If we turn the economy around then tax receipts will increase and pay off the deficit. In the long run it will go down as one of the 10 greatest pieces of legislation ever passed
 

CunningStunts

I changed my middle-name to Freeones
Here's the problem with all the "stimulus" **pork** money that Congress is spending: WE DON'T HAVE IT!!!

Any rational person, if they were in the red, would STOP spending to right the ship. Our beloved Federal government keeps borrowing money they don't have! It's like a person charging shit when they are in debt in the hopes that will somehow HELP.

It won't.
 

calpoon

Yes, I bribed and cheated to get this far
So if the government runs out of money does that mean that the Indians get to foreclose on the nation?
 

meesterperfect

Hiliary 2020
No, but pretty much everybody besides them can.
If this keeps up how are we gonna have enough money to fund the starship enterprise in the 23rd century
 

pool_hustler

Be careful what you wish for, it might come true!
The stimulus package has kept a lot of people working and kept the entire collapse of Wall Street and the banking from happening.

Money from the stimulus package kept my home State and home City from going bankrupt during this crisis. (And many others)

The stimulus money has created many high paying construction jobs, research positions and education positions. It is investing billions in education.

It also cut taxes for individuals by $237,000,000,000 and companies by $51,000,000,000.

Was it a risk to spend roughly 500 billion and slash taxes by 288 billion? Sure, but it is the only thing that kept our country’s economy from totally collapsing. All this AND MOST THE MONEY IS NOT EVEN SPENT YET!

If we turn the economy around then tax receipts will increase and pay off the deficit. In the long run it will go down as one of the 10 greatest pieces of legislation ever passed

New housing sales were up 11% in June as compared to May. Many see that as a sign the housing slump had hit bottom, and that the market will continue to gradually rise.
 

calpoon

Yes, I bribed and cheated to get this far
Of course the market will rise and the recession will end. it's already on it's way out, and things will be up and up for the future!

as long as you don't count inflation, unemployment and national deficit.
 
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